Joe_H
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The one thing I was wondering about... did we know that Mike knew Saul before this episode? That seemed out of nowhere and wasn't really explained.
Mike didn't know Saul. He set up a meeting with his friend, Glenn Peterson. Glenn apparently kicked it upstairs, and Mike found himself blindsided by Saul and Estes.Joe_H said:The one thing I was wondering about... did we know that Mike knew Saul before this episode? That seemed out of nowhere and wasn't really explained.
Originally Posted by Lou Sytsma /t/323092/homeland-season-2/60#post_3999067
The whole tailor shop shootdown was too '24' for my tastes. One week they send Brody to pick up the Tailor because they have no resources available and in this episode they have a trained and well equipped Tactical Team? A bit too contradictory in story telling logic for a show that rarely stumbles in such matters.
Originally Posted by Lou Sytsma /t/323092/homeland-season-2/60#post_3999067
The whole tailor shop shootdown was too '24' for my tastes. One week they send Brody to pick up the Tailor because they have no resources available and in this episode they have a trained and well equipped Tactical Team? A bit too contradictory in story telling logic for a show that rarely stumbles in such matters.
It was definitely a study in the sins of the past dragging you down. Now that his cards are on the table, he wants to put this whole mess behind him. He sees the life he could have had if it hadn't gotten into bed with Nazir, and he mourns the loss of it.mattCR said:Everything at the mansion played out in such a way that it really highlighted exactly how messed up life is for Brody.
You've captured Brody in a nutshell. I despise many of the things he's done, the choices that he's made. But I can't help but root for him.A character who may be a bad guy, but a character you also want to root for to see if he can find his way.
That scene at the police station captured succinctly the position he is in. Brody the man would have had Dana turn herself in, no questions asked. There is a moral question there, and for him it was easily answered: she needs to pay the price for this mistake she participated in, Walden's son needs to pay the price, and screw everything else that's going to happen. He understands that the lie is a worse punishment for Dana than whatever the justice system will hand down. But on the other hand, he's got a guillotine hanging over his entire world. Either way he loses his daughter. Just brutal, especially since we can't be sure if Estes gave the order to Carrie because he wanted to protect the mission or because he wanted to protect his political benefactor's path to the white house.The issue with his family is so complicated it puts them in somewhat the same bind that he is.. something horrible has happened; and they have no outlet valve to really deal with it. The have to keep the secret, but yet how do they keep a secret so big without it deforming their life in some way?
Originally Posted by Michael_K_Sr /t/323092/homeland-season-2/60#post_4003229
Well, unfortunately the "Previously on Homeland..." scenes telegraphed the ending for me. I'll be interested to see what Nazir has in store for Brody. Still, it's a stretch to think that a Congressman and potential VP pick could disappear for long stretches without too many questions being raised. What happened to Brody's SUV left in the middle of nowhere? And what of the whole Dana/Finn subplot? Kind of seems wasted...it doesn't look as though Dana will pay a stiff penalty at this point after all, except in the form of guilt.
Originally Posted by mattCR /t/323092/homeland-season-2/60#post_4003238
I don't know if the Dana/Finn subplot is wasted. Now the victim knows her face.. if Brody goes anywhere in politics, think she won't keep that bit of info handy?
Originally Posted by Paul D G /t/323092/homeland-season-2/60#post_4003965
I would think her figuring out it was the VP's son would be of more value. And if the VP runs for POTUS even more so (and even with Brody being VP).
Not sure if the Dana subplot is going anywhere other than to cause turmoil within the family and be a catalyst to Brody starting lose it a little... or a lot.