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Help creating a home theater system

Discussion in 'Beginners, General Questions' started by heat6, Jun 7, 2012.

  1. heat6

    heat6 New Member

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    Hello home theater forum,
    I am not very knowledgeable in the audio realm. Ive got a Sharp aquos and an awkward room.
    Basically my requirements is that it be under $1000. Preferably around $700. The only other thing is that i need the back speakers to be wireless. It just isnt possible to run wires for surround sound from the tv to back. I would appreciate recommendations. Is it better to buy things individually or go for a box set? I already have a sony blu ray player so i dont need a system that includes one.
     
  2. heat6

    heat6 New Member

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    http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR2112CI-Integrated-Surround-Receiver/dp/B004Z0S7OM/ref=zg_bs_3213035011_14
    http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR2312CI-Integrated-Surround-Receiver/dp/B004Z0S7JW/ref=zg_bs_3213035011_6
    So I have narrowed down my receivers to these. Is the 2312 a huge upgrade over the 2112 or can i get away with the 2112 and spend more money on speakers?
    The super cinema speakers look beautiful but im guessing the pricing is going to be out of my range. I have read on a number of sites that wireless speakers for the rear speakers are not good quality yet? I really would love them to be wireless.
     
  3. gene c

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    I don't think wireless is ready for prime-time yet. To in-consistant, poorer quality sound (not a big thing for surrounds) and the quality of the speakers might not be that great. Look into a wireless speaker kit like the Rocketfish from BestBuy. But I have no idea how well they work.
    http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Rocketfish%26%23153%3B+-+Universal+Wireless+Rear+Speaker+Kit+-+Black/8275528.p;jsessionid=80703D54AA9EB7FDEB426DA0C1504E42.bbolsp-app02-66?id=1171058476489&skuId=8275528&st=wireless speakers&cp=1&lp=2
    To me, the differences between the 2112 and 2312 aren't huge. Things like a detatchable power cord and video up-scaling (from 480 to 1080P) might not be necessary but they're nice to have. A little more power probably won't be felt, 7 instead of 6 hdmi inputs, a couple of pounds heavier, dedicated Zone 2 outputs. All nice little extras but not huge. I like to use Crutchfield.com for research on receivers. More on speakers/subwoofer and less on the receiver is always a good thing :) . Just not as sexy.
    2112 http://www.crutchfield.com/p_033AV2112C/Denon-AVR-2112CI.html?search=denon+avr2112&tp=179#details-tab
    2312 http://www.crutchfield.com/p_033AV2312C/Denon-AVR-2312CI.html?tp=179#details-tab
    ac4l.com also has the 2312 and 2112 as factory refurbs. A 5 year extended warranty is only $50
    http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/DENAVR2112CI/DENON-AVR-2112CI-7.1-Integrated-Network-A/V-Surround-Receiver/1.html
    http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/DENAVR2312CI/DENON-AVR-2312CI-7.2-Integrated-Network-A/V-Surround-Receiver/1.html#!warranties
     
  4. heat6

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    Thank you Gene C for the advice.
    I think i have decided on the Denon AVR 2112 Reviever
    http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR2112CI-Integrated-Surround-Receiver/dp/B004Z0S7OM/ref=zg_bs_3213035011_14
    and Martin Logan MLT 2 speaker system
    http://www.amazon.com/MartinLogan-MLT-2-Theater-System-Black/dp/B0049P2000/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1339114387&sr=1-2
    I havent researched the wireless speaker kit yet but thats what im going to do for the back speakers. Is there anything else that i am missing or have i covered everything
     
  5. David Willow

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    Hi Matt,

    I keep reading your posts saying "back speakers" and the issue you have running wires. Ideally, the surround speakers go on either side of you, not behind you. I'm not sure if this helps your situation, but just know there is no such thing as "back speakers" in a 5.1 setup.

    Now if you really want a 7.1 setup and really do want 'back speakers", I highly recommend staying with 5.1 and skip the wireless.

    Here's a speaker setup diagram from Dolby to help you properly place your speakers...
     
  6. heat6

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    David,
    Thank you for helping me clarify. When I mentioned back speakers i meant the surround sound speakers. The problem still lies with the room the tv is in. It isnt possible to run cables from the receiver to the surround sound speakers. So I know i am going to have to compromise on the quality and use the rocketfish wireless speaker system as it is the only way it seems i can work it.
    I am set on the Martin Logan MLT 2 home theater speaker system
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0049P2000/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1
    But as far as receivers, I dont really know what i am looking at. As silly as this may sound, I really want a receiver that is compatible with my android phone and has the ability to stream from it. I have my eyes on the Onkyo TX -NR 609. I have read mostly good reviews but also some people have had trouble with it which kinda scares me. I was wondering if anyone has experience with it.
    http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-TX-Channel-Certified-Receiver/dp/B004O0TRD8/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
    So my next question is if I decide on both of these, what else do i need?
     
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    I have never seen a room where it is impossible to run cables. It may not be practical. It may not be cost effective. But it is never impossible. Why don't you explain your impossible situation concerning said wiring?
     
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    Don't spend a lot on cables/wires. We usually recommend monoprice.com, partsexpress.com and bluejeancables.com
    Get a good surge protector for both the receiver and subwoofer. Make sure all components and surge protectors are turned off when making connections.
    A Logitech universal remote can be quite handy but not absolutely necessary. I don't use one but others swear by them.
     

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