HD DVD Outpacing All Next-Gen Formats in Sales Growth (1 Viewer)

[Jari K]

Damn straight. I don´t care if some wise Japanese man invented the mini-LCD that could be incorporated to the bicycle or something. Or 250" Plasma that could arrive to general public in 2030. I want: FILMS!!!!!!!!!!!! IN HD!

 

[Shawn Perron]

Blah, nevermind.

 

[Cees Alons]

Are those numbers "money" or "units"?


Cees

 

[Paul Arnette]

That is actually a very good question. I had assumed it was "units", but re-reading it looks more like "money".

Anyway, I wish we had access to some real numbers we could draw our own conclusions from. Half the time when I try to read these press-releases, I feel like I forgot my decoder ring.

 

[Cees Alons]

Yes, and unfortunately, that isn't your fault (or mine ). They want it to be unclea n r!


Cees

 

[Jeff Adkins]

Just found these numbers over at HDD:

June 12 - 150,000 HD-DVD (60%) vs 100,000 Blu-ray (40%)
July 18 - 180,000 HD-DVD (55%) vs 147,300 Blu-ray (45%)

This doesn't include PS3, laptops, PC drives or Xbox 360 add-on.


I don't claim their accuracy, so take it with a grain of salt.

 

[Jari K]

Just based on these numbers (I haven´t really followed these type of sales figures etc, though), I don´t see that Blu-ray should be that "worried". Toshiba has been very aggressive with their low prices (I keep repeating this, lol) and PS3-figures are not included (they´re now rising because their own price cut). I highly doubt that Xbox 360 add-on would add much to these figures, I mean seriously (again I mean that many has Xbox 360 - but how many actually has that add-on?)?

 

[Austan]

at one point in time the XBOX360 add-on was the top selling HD DVD player

 

[MarekM]

thanx for info, interesting hmm
do you have a direct link ?
it's nice to see that Blu-ray is catching up in standalones

Marek

 

[Ed St. Clair]

Because in standalone terms for HD Disc we talk about hundreds of thousands & in gaming consoles we talk about millions.

EDitEDbyED:
The reason the 150,000+ # for the add-on is important to HD DVD is because every single person who buys it, plays (buys or rents) HD DVDs. Such is not the case w/the PS3 & BD.
However, last figures I saw, had the percentage of PS3 owners buying/renting discs very close or about the same amount, as the # of 360 owners. Its "was" about a wash, just since the 2Q, PS3/BD sales have soared (for the waring HD Disc Formats) into the lead BD holds to this day.

 

[Austan]

I dont think they are referring to games on BR disc... They are referring to just movie sales...

 

[Paul Arnette]

Those numbers literally just came out of thin air over at HDD, so they mean little to me at this point.

 

[MarekM]

but at least some numbers are coming even if our of thin air over HDD

Marek

 

[Jari K]

I don´t fully understand this logic. As long as people buy PS3, they´ll buy and rent at least some BD-movies. Probably not "right away" etc, but eventually yes. People can buy HD DVD add-on just that they could watch some movies every once in a while. Or to see those Universal-titles that are lacking from BD. IMO, It´s not that only the hardcore HD DVD-fans buy that add-on (I actually doubt it, since it doesn´t have HDMI, it won´t support 1080p, it´s noisy, etc). At the beginning of the HD-era, people probably bought more add-ons, but now when Toshiba is at the same price range and things have been evolving, I doubt that those hardcore HD DVD-fans want some mediocre ( ) add-on.

But: I have heard that you can hook up that Xbox HD DVD add-on to your computer. That is one advantage for sure.

 

[Austan]

What the PS3 also does is takes away any potential HD DVD buyer...

If you are a PS3 gamer, why would you buy a HD DVD player??? Wouldn't it make more sense to use that $300 and buy more PS3 games (when they come out) or a butt load of BR movies???

 

[Jeff Adkins]

The numbers came from this thread and the OP doesn't say where he got them. They don't sound totally wrong but I'd still like to see official numbers from somewhere.

 

[MarekM]

thanx Jeff,

Marek

 

[Tim Glover]

Holy %$#(#! I start a thread...go to work and all hell breaks loose.

Man I am flattered though reading my name being referenced so much here. Obviously I DID start this thread and while the title of it does say promotional group etc....the data is from NPD and Neilson. I would not have posted such had it not been from those sources. Since there are quite a few members here throw out these #s when it's convienent, I thought this was a good time to show some positive news for HD DVD.

No harm done. While I am an HD DVD fan, I think it's pretty safe to say that I don't have a history smacking down BD at all or participating in rants over which format is better. Feel free to do a search on me here and you'll find me an enthusiast...but a very fair one.

Truthfully since BD got another exclusive from the country of Zimbabwee I thought it was time for some nice news for HD DVD.

Back to the #s. If we quote and stand by NPD & Neilson for software sales each week and some here love making predictions based on such data, then why is this data being challenged.

Can't have it both ways.

 

[MarekM]

data are not challenged Tim, but the way they were represented....

check this CHART, as poster mentioned


"It's a shame that chart wasn't attached to the article in question - but that would have spoiled the spin I suppose."

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&#post11062732

Marek

 

[Tim Glover]

So if someone who was making Ds in school started making high Cs and Bs, do they put an * by those new grades?