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Gosford Park doesn't live up to its cover

Discussion in 'Archived Threads 2001-2004' started by Jeffrey G, Jun 30, 2002.

  1. Jeffrey G

    Jeffrey G Active Member

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    Ebert and "whoever" gives it an "outstanding" or whatever two thumbs up and it won an Academy Award, but my wife and I turned it off after 40 minutes or so. We couldn't understand half of what the characters were saying because of the strong British accent (I guess it was British), and it was very boring from the start. If we didn't give it enough time, I'm sorry, but after 40 minutes I would have thought that an Academy Award winner would have kept our attention.
     
  2. Jason Seaver

    Jason Seaver Well-Known Member

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    Actually, according to the director, most people won't "get" it with only one viewing. [​IMG]
    It does get better as it goes along, and stopping forty minutes in means you probably didn't get to Stephen Fry, who is hilariously blustery.
     
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    I say turn on subtitles and have another go at it. I turn on subs for just about anything and I hear fine, but There are some times when I miss something if a character is whispering or babbling incoherently.

    In fact I rented Kenneth Branagh's Hamlet and Closed Captioning has become my new best friend. This is my first encounter with Shakespeare and I had no idea WHAT THE HELL these people were saying until I read it. Hmmm maybe I should just read the damn thing instead.
     
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    Damin J Toell Well-Known Member

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    Closed-captioning? English subtitles for the hearing impaired? I too had an extremely difficult time in the theater with this film, as I am partially hearing impaired. I distinctly remember being disappointed that I couldn't follow much, and very quickly resigned myself to waiting for the dvd and watching it again with the subs. I did stick around though, as it is a very beautifully filmed movie. Plus, I wasn't driving. [​IMG]
    So, the dvd does have english subs, right?
     
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    The dialog was tough
     
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    We watched it last night on DVD as well. My wife had trouble with the dialog (she has some hearing loss), so we turned on the subtitles. Yes the DVD has them - and for the most part they run under the widescreen film unless there is so much dialog that they are pushed up onto the film itself, so they don't distract that much.

    I found the movie to be wonderful. Knowing it was a murder mystery from the start, we started cataloging all the murder tools and suspects as they came apparent. The mystery is certainly easy enough to solve. My wife and I figured it out at about the same pace that Mary did in the film (as none of the clues were hidden).
     
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    Well, I loved it. Admittedly, I understand English accents, but there you go. It seems several Americans on the forum have had a problem with it, so don't feel too bad. Just imagine how much we struggle with some American films.
     
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    I don't know why people have such trouble with this movie. When I saw it in theaters, it took about five minutes to get accustomed to the accents and rhythm of the conversations. And yes, it's not going to make much sense if you watch less than one-third of the film.

    Great film. In my Top 3 for 2001.
     
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    I had a little trouble figuring out what the characters were saying, but I got used to it as the film went on. I was really confused about how all the characters were interrelated to each other. The Cast and Crew section did a good job in revealing who was related to who.

    I need to see it again to fully understand it, but my first impression is that this was an excellent film.
     
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    It's a film that doesn't take you by the hand and lead you through the story. You have to work at it. This makes it frustrating for some, exhilarating for others. But I can't understand why anyone who's having trouble grasping the accents wouldn't just turn on the subtitles.

    M.
     
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    My wife and I got through about 90 minutes last night before we had to hit the sack (getting up early in the morning), but we liked it so far. We too had difficulty with the dialogue and went with the subtitles. I personally blame it on my lackluster center-channel which seems to suffer most on dialogue-driven films. Looking forward to finishing this one tonight, if possible.
     
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    The dialogue -is- difficult; and depending on your comfort level with accents, may be hard to manage for the whole film. However, I think the average viewer will eventually settle into it and start to forget the accents. Most of what's happening is contained in the faces anyway. I was able to forget the accents about 1/2 hour in at the theater; but enjoyed the option for subtitles on the DVD.

    Now, all of that being said, Gosford Park, in my humble opinion, deserves every accolade it recieved and much much more. Altman accomplished something that I suspect few if any others could have with this film. The fact that it never falls apart and betrays itself as simply a bunch of actors in costumes is a magical achievment. I love the feeling of wonderful movement, energy, and purpose below stairs and the slow methodical slavery to etiquette above stairs. You are bombarded with diologue at times and could never catch it all (accents asside); but your ears catch this and that and in the end you realize that you have been treated to something far greater than "script". In many ways the plot is about nothing at all. Sure there is a murder mystery; but Altman makes it all very clear that you should not be much concerned about it, certainly no one in the movie is. If the murder means anything at all it is in the motive; and when we learn, it is one of the better emotional beats i've seen in a movie for a small while. This movie ties with Mullholland as my best of 2001.
     
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    I understood the dialogue fine. [​IMG] I also thought it was a superb film. Easily one of the funniest and sharpest scripts to come along in a long long time. Also the enseble performance is once-in-a-lifetime-special.
     

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