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Discussion in 'Blu-ray and UHD' started by Mark Walker, Sep 3, 2012.

  1. schan1269

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    Regarding Pillow Book, we've chatted this film up in the "Your single BD want" thread. Tempted to buy the BD of it from the UK(haven't done so...as my multi-region player has yet to hit my porch and I've already bought 7 BD from other countries).

    But like the rest of Greenaway, where are they.

    And Moodysson, any takers on Show Me Love?
     
  2. Will Krupp

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    You had me with naked Ewan MacGregor but LOST me with this line. If I never have to sit through another Peter Greenaway film for as long as I live I will be a most happy fella...blech!!! :eek:
     
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    You know, Bond did say that he'd been though this before... ;)
     
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    The Cook, The Thief, His Wife, and Her Lover is the one film with a scene in it that made people walk out in the theater, and almost made me retch.
     
  5. Mark Walker

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    Jason_V,

    Thanks for your reply. So interesting the viseral reactions and the not liking the characters. I saw them both as flawed but also very much in love even though it was not good for them. Have you see Wong Kar-Wai's Happy Together?
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    It is brilliant, and the cinematography is a marvel,
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    but if you think the fellas in Leave the Lights on are bad together, uuuh, maybe you should not watch Happy Together. Brilliant and moving, but unpleasant. Your reactions remind me of my reactions to The Boys in the Band. As brilliant as it is, the self-loathing just reaches in me and puts me in a bad mood that I cannot shake for the rest of the day.

    You sound like you're an emphatic viewer, like me. Whatever mood is shown in the film, I tend to absorb, so I am less prone to watching Igmar Bergman, because as amazing as those films are, I just end up feeling like crap the rest of the day and life it too short.


    I love reading these reactions to Peter Greenaway. I like Greenaway's films, but I also have to be in a very certain detached "MOMA mood." Oddly enough, The Pillow Book is the only one that I consistently enjoy because I love all the frames. I also have a fairly low tolerance for gore, as I could never imagine sitting through any of the Saw films or any sort of "torture porn" genre film...and I only ever got through one Nightmare on Elm Street film, the one where the girl absorbs the powers of all her friends...and yet Greenaway never bothers me, even with scenes like the one where Helen Mirren tells her husband to eat something.

    I had a film prof show Greenaway's films. Afterward he confessed he does not like Greenaway, but his class actually fostered my appreciation of his work...Prospero's Books is the only one I have ever walked out of, and that was because I was tired and wanted to go home and go to bed. I bet I would enjoy it now.

    Just curious what you all think of Derek Jarman's work. He is the other director I like where the work can be, at times, very artsy. But I also think he is a man I would have loved to have tea with and ask about life. Greenaway? Never!

    Here's to hoping Edward II comes to Blu-ray. (Tilda!)
     
  6. Moe Dickstein

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    Criterion did Edward II on Laser so hoping they would someday do the Blu
     
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    Yeah, I find I have to at least like one of the main characters or empathize with them in order to get fully invested in what's happening. The guys in Leave the Lights On...I didn't see anything redeeming in either of them. Cheaters, liars, drug addicts...those aren't qualities I can get behind. (Yeah, I know I sound very moralistic and judgmental right now.) I don't need "happy" movies all the time; I just need to root for someone on the screen.

    One of my favorite movies ever, Godfather II, isn't about good people. They're murderers, thieves, liars, cheats and despicable people. But I root for Michael because his family was put in danger early in the film (we can argue "they had it coming" until the end of time). I root for Kay because she is in this untenable situation and can't see a way out. I don't root for Fredo because he puts his own family in danger.

    I have seen Happy Together, but it's been easily 10 years. It didn't make much of an impact on me at the time and I have no compelling reason to go back to it. All I really want are people I can identify with in a movie or TV show. And I can cast a large enough definition to find how I identify with people.
     
  8. Mark Walker

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    I watched Purple Noon today, and I really wanted to watch The Talented Mr. Ripley right after, but I could not find my DVD; I most likely loaned it to someone. Argh!

    Before I got too frustrated, I checked Amazon and learned that it is arriving on Blu-ray on September 10th. (The upgrade for me is a no-brainer; I loved this film.)
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    Amazon currently has it for ~$14.00, so I am just hoping the transfer is acceptable and that the bonus content has been ported over. (It is a former Miramax title and appears to be moving from Paramount to WB; I am bit concerned that the bonus content won't be ported over from the DVD.)

    Here is the film's synopsis:

    [color=rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:small;]After the Oscar-winning The English Patient writer/director Anthony Minghella attempted another tricky literary adaptation with The Talented Mr. Ripley which features heartthrob Matt Damon cast against type as a psychopathic pansexual charmer.[/color]

    Tom Ripley (Damon) is a bright and charismatic sociopath who makes his way in mid-'50s New York City as a men's room attendant and sometimes pianist though his real skill is in impersonating other people forging handwriting and running second-rate scams. After being mistaken for a Princeton student Tom meets the shipping tycoon father of Dickie Greenleaf (Jude Law) who has traveled to the coast of Italy where he's living a carefree life with his father's money and his beautiful girlfriend Marge (Gwyneth Paltrow). Dickie's father will pay Ripley 1000 dollars plus his expenses if he can persuade Dickie to return to America.

    [color=rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:small;]As Ripley and Dickie become friends Tom finds himself both attracted to Dickie and envious of his life of pleasure. In time he decides that he would rather be Dickie Greenleaf than Tom Ripley. The Talented Mr. Ripley was based on the first of a series of novels featuring Tom Ripley written by Patricia Highsmith; the story was previously filmed in 1960 as Purple Noon with Alain Delon as Ripley.[/color]

    The film also includes Cate Blanchett, Jack Davenport, and a brilliant turn by Phillip Seymour Hoffmann as the very well to do, possibly gay, friend of Dickie who is not fooled for one minute by Tom Ripley.

    For those interested in the films more prurient aspects, there is a particularly well done scene where Tom Ripley is chatting with Dickie Greenleaf while Dickie soaks in a bath. Let's just say it is very clear that Ripley really wants to join him in the tub; whem Jude Law rises to get out of the bath, the women and gay men in the movie theater let out audible gasps the night we went.
     
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    As I said in my review of Purple Noon, I really liked this adaptation of the book and actually preferred the ending of this to the ending of Purple Noon.

    I have the DVD, but I'll have to consider upgrading myself. Thanks for mentioning it.
     
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    Matt! Here is your review of Purple Noon.

    I agree with you re: the ending (and it sounds like the author does, too) but each film has its strengths.

    Also, folks should know, while Purple Noon is French ;) , it is not a film that would fit this thread the way the Damon film does..
     
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    Mark hit the most pruriet moment (nice five dollar word, btw!) right on the head. Agred 100%.

    I've always loved The Talented Mr. Ripley since the first day I saw it. Great locations, beautiful people, really good music, and a plot that just snowballs to the very end. A long time ago, I put "Tu Vuo Fa L Americano" onto my iPod even though I don't know any of the words. (And I love to sing-badly-to whatever is playing at the time!)
     
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    Not that it matters, but Ripley was a Paramount/Miramax co-production and Par has US rights.WB is releasing under their deal with Par, so no reason why the supplements wouldn't carry over.
     
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    I thought some who regularly read this thread might find this report about LGBT representation in film versus television of interest.
    NEW YORK (AP) — We may be seeing more prominent gay and lesbian characters on TV shows, but the movie industry lags well behind the small screen, an advocacy group reports.
    In its first study of LGBT roles in major studio releases, the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation found that compared with TV, where there has been a significant shift over the past decade, "Major studios appear reluctant to include LGBT characters in significant roles or franchises."
    In its report released Wednesday, GLAAD found that of the 101 releases from Hollywood's six major studios in 2012, just 14 included characters identified as lesbian, gay, or bisexual. Most were no more than cameos or minor roles, it said — and none of the films tracked had transgender characters.
    "Until LGBT characters appear more regularly in these studio films, there will be the appearance of bias," said Wilson Cruz, GLAAD's national spokesperson, in an interview. He added that his organization will be meeting with studio executives to discuss the findings.
    There were some bright spots in 2012, and some more ambiguous ones, the group said. For example, "Skyfall," the hugely successful installment of the James Bond franchise, featured a main villain, played by Javier Bardem, who was apparently bisexual.
    "It was great to see an LGBT character in such a significant role," said Matt Kane, associate director of entertainment media at GLAAD, also in an interview. "But unfortunately the character was also devious, psychotic, and untrustworthy — it fell into that trap."
    As genre films like comic book adaptations consume much of the studios' capital and promotional efforts, the report says, such films have a striking lack of LGBT characters. In "The Avengers," it notes, there is a gay news anchor, but his appearance is "so brief it was likely missed by many viewers."
    The report — called the 2013 Studio Responsibility Index — rates each of the six studio according to the number of LGBT-inclusive films they released. Faring worst: 20th Century Fox and Disney, which each receive "failing" grades; the other four — Paramount, Sony, Universal and Warner Bros. — receive grades of "adequate."
    Asked in advance Tuesday afternoon about the report, the studios had no immediate comment.
    As part of its index, the group developed criteria to measure the quality of the LGBT roles. They included: whether a character was identifiably LGBT; whether it was not solely or predominantly defined by its sexual orientation or gender identity; and whether it was tied into the plot in such a way that its removal would have a significant effect.
    One of the best examples of an LGBT-inclusive film in 2012, according to GLAAD, was, interestingly, an animated family film: "ParaNorman," about a misunderstood boy who can communicate with the ghosts of dead people.
    In the film, which came from the Portland-based studio LAIKA, Norman's cheerleader sister asks the hunky football hero Mitch for a movie date. He casually makes a reference to his boyfriend.
    The film's writer and co-director, Chris Butler, said the filmmakers, while determined to include the scene, had worried that it could cost them a PG rating and get them a PG-13 instead, which would have been inappropriate for the movie. In the end, they got their PG rating.
    Butler said he was disappointed with some negative commentary about the scene — including one viewer's online review that praised the film for its anti-bullying message of inclusion — but said it ruined matters by making a character gay.
    "I was surprised at all the fuss," Butler said. "But on the flip side was the positive reaction." The movie was the first animated film nominated for a GLAAD award.
    As a filmmaker, Butler said he was not optimistic that there would be an inevitable wave of more onscreen LGBT characters as time goes on and society changes, as on TV.
    "It's a mistake to assume it's inevitable," he said. "The only way to make change is to do something about it. It takes hard work."
    "We are moving in the right direction," Butler said. "But not nearly quick enough. It's not enough."
    Kane, at GLAAD, said the new report would help reinforce its longtime claims that Hollywood studios need to do more.
    "Over the years we have met with studios, and it's always a point we make," Kane said. "Now, we have the numbers to take to them."
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    The Stranger in Us follows a Virginia transplant to San Francisco-Anthony-as he follows a man he supposedly wants to build a life with-Stephen. The movie jumps between time periods, keeping the audience on the straight and narrow using a date timeline when we switch time periods. Stephen turns out to have demons of his own and Anthony is put in the position of having to figure out if this is the right man for him...all the while becoming attached to a hustler named Gavin.

    Throughout the movie, we get glimpses of what it's like for someone in a city they don't know. Anthony travels the streets at night, being picked up, picking up, trying to learn the vernacular he was never exposed to in Virginia. Call me quaint, but I liked these "fish out of water" scenes. I think they speak to anyone who isn't an outgoing type of person, someone who would rather be approached than do the approaching and so on.

    It doesn't hurt Raphael Barker (Anthony) made me want to wrap my arms around him and lead him away from the unhealthy situations he gets himself into. No one is going to mistake this character for straight so we're not going to worry about anyone mistaking his sexuality throughout the movie. Similarly, he's not very strong, at least in relation to Stephen. And there, I think, we find how much Anthony loves this other man, rightly or wrongly. He is willing to put up with a lot of BS to be in this relationship. That's an easy thing to empathize with.

    I wasn't bored by The Stranger in Us by any means. By the time the ending rolls around, you know Anthony will make all the right decisions for his life, regardless of what anyone else says. He's grown, matured, and developed an outer shell he didn't have before.
     
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    Mark Walker said:

    Completely unrelated, folks may have heard that Criterion and its affiliated companies have lost the rights to the Merchant-Ivory films in their catalog.

    If you do not yet have "Maurice," on DVD, a landmark LGBT film for me and many others, now is the time to find a copy.
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    The DVD is quite nice with a 2nd disc of bonus content.
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    Mark, I'm sorry to hear that Criterion has lost the rights to these films. Do you think there is still a chance that we'll see a blu-ray release for "Maurice" in the future? It's such a beautiful film with a gorgeous score. I've been hoping for an HD release for a while now.
     
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    I just added this film to my Netflix queue. Sounds worthy of rental. Thanks, Jason!
     
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    Hello, BBbrowd!

    I would *hope* at some point a cache of Merchant-Ivory films are released as a set on Blu-ray not unlike the David Lean directs Noel Coward boxed set which (Did I ever mention that set in this thread? It is Noel Coward, after all, and well, there is that one final line in Blithe Spirit where Rex Harrison blurts out that he was very attached to another man...) But, Criterion would need to re-acquire the rights. At this point, I would even take a UK Blu-ray import and that would be the tipping point where I would buy a region-free Blu-ray player.

    Nice to see you posting in this thread!


     
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    Has anybody seen The Ages of Lulu recently?
     
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    Thank you, Mark, for your kind reply! I was thinking the same thing about a set of Merchant-Ivory films. That reminds me of the CD set that was released in the 90's titled, "The E.M. Forster Trilogy" containing the soundtracks of the three films. Those Richard Robbins scores are so beautiful and haunting. "Maurice" is one of my favorite films of all time. I'll remain hopeful that it will get a blu-ray release someday. As you said, it would be worth an import and region-free player! :) Thanks again for your response.
     
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    Report back when you get to see The Stranger in Us, Mark. :) I'm curious if I was too smitten with the actor who plays Anthony or if I was being objective. (It's terrible when you have to worry about that!)
     

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