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GameCube and 1080i.

Discussion in 'Archived Threads 2001-2004' started by Corey Hancock, Aug 10, 2001.

  1. Corey Hancock

    Corey Hancock Well-Known Member

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    Over at Nintendojo there is a little tid bit about GCN and HTDV, thought this might add some more fuel to the fire:
    In an article by Steven Kent in the September 2001 issue of
    Popular Science, a very significant revelation is made: NGC will
    deliver built-in support for a full 1080i HDTV signal.
    Kent writes on page 34, in part:
    "Luckily for all couch potato world-savers, video game resolution
    is about to get kicked up a notch. Conventional games are
    delivered in 640 by 480 lines of resolution, but Star Wars:
    Rogue Leader-Rogue Squadron 2 for Nintendo's new
    GameCube delivers the action in 1,920 by 1,080 lines of
    resolution. That's equivalent to HDTV.
    "Of course the three next-generation consoles -- GameCube,
    Microsoft Xbox, and Sony PlayStation 2 -- Nintendo's is the
    only one that supports high-resolution games right out of the
    box. Xbox customers will be able to purchase an upgrade, but
    there are no plans yet for higher-resolution Xbox games. And
    PlayStation 2 has no high-resolution plans, period.
    "Frankly, even Nintendo is hedging. The company hasn't
    announced any high-resolution games of its own."
    Well, it's good to know that I will be able to enjoy Rogue leader in 1080i on my Toshiba HDTV.
    http://www.nintendojo.com/infocus/index.php#997402846
    Corey
     
  2. Dan Brecher

    Dan Brecher Well-Known Member

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    Oh how I hate all of your with your HDTVs. [​IMG] Doesn't even exist here and probably never will. Be interesting to see if Nintendo keep the Progessive Scan output option on the UK model come Spring 2002.
    Dan (UK)
     
  3. Rob Varto

    Rob Varto Well-Known Member

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    Corey, I have a question you may or may not be able to answer...
    I too have a Toshiba HDTV. The only problem is that there are only two HD inputs. I already have my DVD in one and my satellite to another. Is there anything else I can do to have an HD display of the Game Cube? Im guessing that I must replace my DVD player with the Game Cube or switch the cable when I play, right?
     
  4. Corey Hancock

    Corey Hancock Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, that is one thing that does suck. All my inputs are full as well. So either you can do the switch-o-roo when you want to play/watch tv or maybe someone will bring out a component video switcher.
    Corey
     
  5. Camp

    Camp Well-Known Member

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    That info is contradictory to what has been said thus far. Gamecube is only supposed to be able to do 480p and Xbox is the console that has announced support up to 1080i.
    Popular "Science" either has info that the whole of video game journalists missed or they've got their facts screwed up.
     
  6. BrianB

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    I have it on good authority the report's wrong, and it's 480p. My source could be wrong though [​IMG]
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  7. Gary King

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    Steven Kent has been known to confuse, misreport, or downright ignore technical facts in other articles.
    He's an interesting read, but for technical issues, I'd put more faith in IGN's bumbling boobs.
     
  8. Morgan Jolley

    Morgan Jolley Well-Known Member

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    I guess we will find out if the information is true or false at Spaceworld and at the launch. Nintendo hasn't released all of the specs yet, so it may very well have 1080i. If it does, then I might have to put the GCN in the theater instead of the X-Box....hehe.....
     
  9. Dave F

    Dave F Well-Known Member

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    Also, there has been a high definition expansion pack shown for the PS2. No announcements though...


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  10. Camp

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    What, exactly, would a "high definition expansion pack" be? I would think all that's necessary is component video out and the hardware necessary to do it (without significant loss of graphical features -no one wants to see flat shaded polygons, even if they're at 1080i).
     
  11. Morgan Jolley

    Morgan Jolley Well-Known Member

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    I haven't heard about this expansion pack. In fact, I read that the PS2 has no plans at all for High Definition. I could see them doing it though, its Sony afterall.
     
  12. Dean Cooper

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    As far as I have been able to find, Both Sony and Nintendo are sticking to 480P as their max. It will be interesting to see what happens closer to crunch time. Sure love to see HD on all of the them thats for sure.
    Dean
     
  13. Gary King

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    The PS2 linux kit runs at 1280x1024. I doubt we'll see too many games running above 480i (let alone 480p) on PS2, though.
     
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    IGN just also posted an article stating that that one about 1080i is not correct. I think they also had quotes from the guys doing Rogue Leader saying it isn't true also.
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  15. Ryan_L_M

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    The is a big difference between how they both do HDTV.
    The Xbox actually renders at a high res. I know some developers working on Xbox games. It renders at 720p in HD mode. The conextion (or what ever that company name is ) Chip will convert the signal up or down to what ever you tv can produce. So, if you have an 720 capable TV - thats what it will do. It will also change it to 1080i, or 540 p or 480p depending on what you tell it to.
    I have read that the GC can only do 480p and that is simply up converts from there. Which makes sense, I cant see the GC hardware pushing a higher resolution. (Its frame buffer simply can NOT do it, its just technically NOT large enough [​IMG]
    The Xbox is deffenatly the HomeTheater gaming machine. It supports DD5.1, and true HD quality.
     
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    Well, it seems Nintendojo has made it official that the story was wrong.
     
  17. Corey Hancock

    Corey Hancock Well-Known Member

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    Bastards. Guess I'll have to get an X-Box instead. J/K [​IMG]
     
  18. Andre F

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    My question is this, who cares about resolution if the games suck? I know I'm negative about this topic but I want the games. I've been sitting with my PS2 (reasonably powerful) and I have seen the quality of games that I would like. Oh well just my opinion of course.
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  19. Morgan Jolley

    Morgan Jolley Well-Known Member

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    I personally don't care about the resolutions of games. From what I have heard, ICO on PS2 looks amazing without running in High Def or even with S-Video.
     

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