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Directors Films Of The American Renaissance '67-'75 Tournament

Discussion in 'Movies' started by Brook K, Feb 10, 2004.

  1. Brook K

    Brook K Well-Known Member

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    Ok, this may not work but I'm giving it a shot. The problem is there's a pretty nebulous demarcation that should be included and those that shouldn't. I'm talking about those films that opened up American cinema, provided new voices, new ways of storytelling, and a fresh vision of life in the good 'ol US of A that made the 1967-1975 era so exciting.

    But what to include and what not to? Obviously prestige pics need not apply, large scale productions, musicals, the Pattons, 2001's, Oliver!'s etc, even stuff like Bananas, Jaws and Blazing Saddles is not what I'm going for. Maybe someone will be able to explain it better than I can, but hopefully you'll get the idea from the movies I'm placing in the tournament:

    Carnal Knowledge [​IMG]
    Five Easy Pieces [​IMG]
    Harold & Maude [​IMG]
    Coffy [​IMG]
    Play Misty For Me [​IMG]
    McCabe & Mrs. Miller [​IMG]
    American Grafitti [​IMG]
    Two-Lane Blacktop [​IMG]
    The Boys In The Band [​IMG]
    Cool Hand Luke [​IMG]
    The Swimmer [​IMG]
    Sweet Sweetback's Badassss Song [​IMG]
    Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore [​IMG]
    In Cold Blood [​IMG]
    Fritz The Cat [​IMG]
    Electra Glide In Blue [​IMG]
    Johnny Got His Gun [​IMG]
    The Long Goodbye [​IMG]
    Salesman [​IMG]
    Rancho Deluxe [​IMG]
    Fat City [​IMG]
    Dirty Mary Crazy Larry [​IMG]
    Superfly [​IMG]
    The Beguiled [​IMG]
    Pink Flamingos [​IMG]
    High Plains Drifter [​IMG]
    Hearts And Minds [​IMG]
    THX 1138 [​IMG]
    Sisters [​IMG]
    Beyond The Valley Of The Dolls [​IMG]
    They Shoot Horses Don't They? [​IMG]
    The Last House On The Left [​IMG]

    Advance to Second Round

    MASH [​IMG]
    Klute [​IMG]
    Bonnie & Clyde [​IMG]
    Shaft [​IMG]
    Midnight Cowboy [​IMG]
    A Woman Under The Influence [​IMG]
    Point Blank [​IMG]
    Serpico [​IMG]
    Straw Dogs [​IMG]
    Monterey Pop [​IMG]
    Texas Chainsaw Massacre [​IMG]
    Billy Jack [​IMG]
    Night Moves [​IMG]
    The Last Detail [​IMG]
    Phantom of the Paradise [​IMG]
    The King Of Marvin Gardens [​IMG]

    Advanced to Third Round

    Don't Look Back [​IMG]
    The Wild Bunch [​IMG]
    Vanishing Point [​IMG]
    Medium Cool [​IMG]
    Dog Day Afternoon [​IMG]
    Mean Streets [​IMG]
    Easy Rider [​IMG]
    Nashville [​IMG]

    Advanced to Quarter Finals

    Badlands [​IMG]
    Targets [​IMG]
    Night Of The Living Dead [​IMG]
    The Honeymoon Killers [​IMG]

    Advanced to Semi-Finals

    The Parallax View
    The Last Picture Show
    The Conversation
    Minnie & Moskowitz
     
  2. george kaplan

    george kaplan Well-Known Member

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    I'll play, but I'm going to skip the nomination phase. I'll second Brook-approved films, but I'm sure I'd end up nominating the wrong ones, since I would have thought 2001, The Godfather and Jaws were a huge reason why that era was so good. [​IMG]
     
  3. Simon_Lepine

    Simon_Lepine Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure those all qualify:

    Phantom of the Paradise
    Dirty Harry
    McCabe & Mrs. Miller
    Chinatown (too big?)

    edit: Steve reminded me of Altman, switched Shaft to McCabe & Mrs. Miller, one of my fave from that period
     
  4. SteveGon

    SteveGon Well-Known Member

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    I'll nominate:

    Fat City (1972)
    The Conversation (1974)
    Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore (1974)
    MASH (1970)
     
  5. Lew Crippen

    Lew Crippen Well-Known Member

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    Nominate:

    Nashville—I know that there are a couple of Altman noms already, but I think that this is quintessential Altman, in telling a story differently.
    Salesman—one of the most important documentaries ever, it defined a documentary style and set a standard that has not often been matched.
    The Last Picture Show—Peter Bogdanovich had a fresh look at coming of age in post-war, small-town America. And it was filmed in glorious B&W, at a time when it seemed as though no serious, important or even good movie would ever be in B&W again.
    American Graffiti—not so groundbreaking as the revisionist hype, but still this set a standard for the inclusion of popular music into a movie. Another fresh look at youth on the cusp of becoming adults—this one set about a decade later than ‘Bogdanovich’s.


    Second:

    The Conservation
    McCabe & Mrs. Miller
    Chinatown
    —but I want my second back if you disqualify this one Brook.


    I suggest Bananas for anyone needing an idea.
     
  6. Bill McA

    Bill McA Well-Known Member

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    Thanks a lot, Brook! [​IMG] [​IMG]

    Nominate:

    Titicut Follies (Frederick Wiseman)
    The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (Tobe Hooper)
    The Joe D'Alessandro trilogy Flesh, Heat, Trash (Paul Morrissey)
    Husbands (John Cassavetes)

    If Brook wasn't so frugal with the nominations, I would also have nominated:
    Night of the Living Dead (George A. Romero)
    Targets (Peter Bogdanovich)
    Pink Flamingos (John Waters)
    Score (Radley Metzger)
    The Lickerish Quartet (Radley Metzger)
    Don't Look Back (D.A. Pennebaker)
    Hi, Mom (Brian De Palma)

    [​IMG]

    I'll second the magnificent Nashville
    And if you allow it, Phantom of the Paradise
     
  7. Brook K

    Brook K Well-Known Member

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    George, while most of these films are not "independent" in terms of not being made at a studio, "independent film" still in its infancy except for drive-in/c-grade/cult type films, that "feel" is what I'm trying to go for. Just trying to find a semi-interesting topic in which the same old films (2001 or Godfather, in this case) are not winning.

    Along those lines I'm disqualifying Chinatown and Dirty Harry. Everything else is fine.
     
  8. Jay E

    Jay E Well-Known Member

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    Great idea, it's my favorite time period for films!

    I nominate:

    Point Blank
    Parallex View, The
    Night Moves
    Wild Bunch, The
    - re-invented the western...is it too big of a film?


    Taxi Driver would have made my list if it was one year younger as it perfectly exemplifies the era.
     
  9. Walter Kittel

    Walter Kittel Well-Known Member

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    Nominate:

    Electra Glide in Blue
    Scarecrow
    Vanishing Point
    Two-Lane Blacktop

    Seecond:

    The Last Picture Show
    Point Blank

    - Walter.
     
  10. george kaplan

    george kaplan Well-Known Member

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    I'll second:

    The Parallax View
    American Grafitti
    MASH

    and I would have thirded Chinatown. [​IMG]
     
  11. ErikG

    ErikG Well-Known Member

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    Nominate:

    Black Christmas
    A Clockwork Orange



    Second:

    Texas Chainsaw Massacre
    Two-Lane Blacktop


    Third:

    American Grafitti
     
  12. george kaplan

    george kaplan Well-Known Member

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    I'll use my last second on A Clockwork Orange
     
  13. Brook K

    Brook K Well-Known Member

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    No thirds necessary. A Clockwork Orange is disqualified.

    I'm also adding Badlands

    We're at 28 now. I'm not sure if 64 is realistic or not.
    Four more nom's and 2nds and lets see how far we get.

    Current Nominations:

    Black Christmas
    Electra Glide in Blue
    Scarecrow
    Vanishing Point
    Night Moves
    Wild Bunch, The
    Titicut Follies
    The Joe D'Alessandro trilogy Flesh, Heat, Trash (Paul Morrissey)
    Husbands
    Salesman
    Fat City
    The Conversation
    Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore
     
  14. Walter Kittel

    Walter Kittel Well-Known Member

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    Nominate:
    In Cold Blood
    Cool Hand Luke
    The Swimmer
    The Beguiled

    Second:
    Night Moves
    The Wild Bunch
    The Conversation

    - Walter.
     
  15. Bill McA

    Bill McA Well-Known Member

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    Nominate:
    Night of the Living Dead (George A. Romero)
    Targets (Peter Bogdanovich)
    Pink Flamingos (John Waters)
    The Lickerish Quartet (Radley Metzger)

    2nd:
    Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore


    and who can forget...

    Sweet Sweetback's Baadsssss Song (Melvin Van Peebles)
    Taking Off (Milos Forman)
    Drive, He Said (Jack Nicholson)
    The Boys in the Band (William Friedkin)
    Carnal Knowledge (Mike Nichols)
    Fortune and Men's Eyes (Harvey Hart)
    Johnny Got His Gun (Dalton Trumbo)
    Fritz the Cat (Ralph Bakshi)
    Brewster McCloud (Robert Altman)
    Last Summer (Frank Perry)
     
  16. george kaplan

    george kaplan Well-Known Member

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    OK, I'll use my last second instead on Cool Hand Luke.
     
  17. Jay E

    Jay E Well-Known Member

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    I second In Cold Blood & The Swimmer.
     
  18. Lew Crippen

    Lew Crippen Well-Known Member

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    I already used a second for The Conservation—who gets their second back Brook? Walter or me?

    Regardless, I’ll use my other two:

    Second:

    The Boys in the Band
    Badlands
     
  19. Brook K

    Brook K Well-Known Member

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    Walter can have his back and you can have yours back for Badlands, Lew. My additions are automatically in.

    Bill, Carnal Knowledge is already in. I'm adding Night Of The Living Dead, Sweet Sweetback's Badassss Song, Billy Jack and Fritz The Cat

    Current Nominations
    Black Christmas
    Scarecrow
    Vanishing Point
    Titicut Follies
    The Joe D'Alessandro trilogy Flesh, Heat, Trash (Paul Morrissey)
    Husbands
    Salesman
    Fat City
    Pink Flamingos
    The Lickerish Quartet
    The Beguiled
    Taking Off
    Drive, He Said
    Fortune and Men's Eyes
    Brewster McCloud
    Last Summer
    Dirty Mary Crazy Larry
    Rancho Deluxe
    Cockfighter


    We're up to 43. I'll leave it up to you to decide whether we should go for 64 or 32 with a bunch of wild cards.

    If you would like to go for 64 I'll allow unlimited nominations and 4 more 2nds.
     
  20. SteveGon

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    Second: Targets, Electra Glide in Blue

    Nominate: Cockfighter (1974)

    No one else has seen Fat City? [​IMG]
     

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