Dave Scarpa
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And the quality of Paramount is slipping Look at the Latest Bonanza release i think some of the newer timeless media releases look better.
While I'm not a big fan of DVD-R's, for me it is really all about the price point and where it fits on my list of needed titles. For example, I'm still finding some nice to have's and blind buys (where this title currently fits for me) in the $20 range for the same or more content length (e.g. Car '54, Ellery Queen). As well as, items like full seasons of Twilight Zone on Blu-ray for a similar price as this. So those are going to continue to get my attention first.Originally Posted by Jack P
If people want to pass on this because it's a title that's not one to their instinctive liking, fine, but if the only thing on their mind right now is "Warner Archive sucks", then start another thread devoted to that, please.
Never thought of using subtitles at night when the wife is sleeping . She made sure when we bought our bedroom tv years ago it had headphone jacks . So when I'm watching tv at night and she is asleep,which is every night, i have to plug in the headphones . Not sure what I'm going to do if the tv goes .Originally Posted by Steve...O
To be clear, I am happy for those who want this show and are finally able to get it. I have no desire to rain on their parade.
However I do stand behind my opinion that these are overpriced and are not as good a value as products purchased from other studios, including independents like E1 or Shout, much less majors like CBS/P. This is not a reflection on the quality of the show, but the way Warner chooses to offer it. In the end, this is unfortunate because this discourages blind buys which would increase exposure to those unfamiliar with the series.
As an aside, subtitles are great for late evening viewing when the family is in bed and you don't want to wake your spouse. In these busy times, the only time available to watch DVDs is later in the day.
That's fine for you. It's not an option that would have concerned me either until I read a number of responses on Amazon regarding a number of releases without closed captioning or subtitles. The fact is that there are quite a few people out there with difficulty hearing that would like to enjoy these releases as much as you and I. To you a useless frill, but to them it's a no sale without it. Personally, I think it's a sad state that it's not a requirement for all releases.Originally Posted by Jack P
Well, consider me among those who would never utilize subtitles in a million years. If I can't hear the actual audio I'm wasting my time even trying to watch. To me it's about the most useless frill one can put into something that isn't a foreign language release.
Let's not cast our stones too prematurely.Jack P said:/forum/thread/309795/f-b-i-from-wba#post_3791727
Well, consider me among those who would never utilize subtitles in a million years. If I can't hear the actual audio I'm wasting my time even trying to watch. To me it's about the most useless frill one can put into something that isn't a foreign language release.
I'll have to diagree with that last point. To my thinking references related to higher then average pricing are no different then poor video/audio quality, music replacements, syndicated cuts with edits, different formats, and the list goes on. It's rare to find a thread on any show that doesn't have some negative views stated as a reason for a person not purchasing.Originally Posted by Jack P
We all have our own personal preferences on what we feel justifies our money and I respect that for everyone. But does that really necessitate broadcasting the fact, "I won't be getting this!" in regards a title that *isn't* one they've been thinking about before? I'm not interested in spending money on "Yellow Rose", but I started that thread because I knew others likely would be glad to hear this was available and that it would be nice to stress the positive that Warner was finally coming through with some TV titles on DVD that should give fans of other shows hope that more will follow.
Others have said they're not trying to rain on the parade of those who are excited, but that disclaimer is for me ringing very hollow in this thread. What should be a thread to talk about how great it is that this is available and to note the strength of some memorable episodes from this show that represents Quinn Martin's longest-running show and one of two titles we've not been able to see on DVD up to now has turned into something else entirely and I'm not hesitant to admit that doesn't sit well with me. Other shows haven't gotten this kind of discussion when their announcement came up.
Going back to something Gary asked earlier that led to this reply. I think this is the most informative tidbit in the whole thread so far. I say we just continue this part of the discussion going forward. I asked my father-in-law about F.B.I and interestingly (with no prodding by myself) he also mentioned the Dragnet approach. And I've recently become a fan of Naked City. So it will remain a title of potential interest in my queue.Originally Posted by Jack P
I just happen to like the show that much, in particular these early episodes in which the character of Lewis Erskine was less a cipher and more of a three-dimensional person. I enjoyed how the show could at times blend the Dragnet procedural approach with the Naked City character study approach.
I never saw the show until it was made available on that short-lived AOL on-line viewing thing and that was when I got hooked into those early seasons. It's been a Grail title of mine ever since, and I would note that for shows that started in the 1960s, this has been the longest running unreleased title up to now which is significant. No other title that started in the decade that ran as long or longer has gone without a DVD release (though few that started in the 60s ran as long as nine years or more).
I recognize the show is not to everyone's taste and isn't on everyone's grail list, but frankly I think I'd prefer this news be a time to give us who are excited to see this happen at last the center stage instead of another tiresome rehash on whether WA's approach sucks or not. In a day and age when we're already carping enough about the *lack* of vintage material becoming available, the least we can do is appreciate the fact that there are still ways to bring these titles to us at last.
Gary, I'm sorry but this is not true. First off, you are talking about the price for two shows that are *half hour* shows and thus when we are talking about the price in relation to the amount of material that is in the FBI release as a one hour show, this one comes out less and thus by that yardstick a better buy or at worse the same general price range. Second, the list price on both "Highway Patrol" and "Flipper" has been a lot higher and is currently much higher than either of those figures you paid. "Highway Patrol" at present can only be had for $55 from Amazon and the base price is $60 which is also the same list price for "Flipper." I'm sure you took advantage of a discount that was up for a time, but that is not a fair comparison because I'm sure that given how Warner Archive has had many discounts that have enabled me to get boxed movie sets at a reduced price, such options will also be available at some point for "The FBI" for those who might want to wait a bit. My point was comparing the standard retail price and on that one, this release comes out smelling like a rose in contrast to "Highway Patrol" and "Flipper". Those two are priced in excess of $20 higher than "The FBI" release is for the same amount of material.Originally Posted by Gary OS
For instance, you brought up the MGM MOD program and the Highway Patrol and Flipper series that were released last year. I went back to Amazon and checked the prices I paid for those two sets. HP = $44.99. This was for the entire season set. Much lower than the price point for the upcoming F.B.I. release. How about Flipper? Flipper = $31.99. Again, well below the price point you are referring to.