Well, The $1227 deal is back. I love this receiver since it has everything packed into it including Logic 7 on 5.1 sources! Only the MC-12 from what i'm aware of has all these surround modes.....If i don't get in on a Rotel 1066(locally) i will be going with the HK AVR 8000. It's on sale again, check gotapex for the OneCall deal. Can someone in Michigan help me get one of these? OneCall doesen't ship to Canada unfortunately. Someone please help out a fellow underpriveledged HTF member :b I hate to ask but these are 2.5 the price here in Canada! What a HUGE favour this would be to me.