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Criterion's Eclipse line

Discussion in 'DVD' started by Ted Todorov, Dec 14, 2006.

  1. Ted Todorov

    Ted Todorov Well-Known Member

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    It is getting announced tomorrow. It will be one lower priced boxed(?) set per month, from directors like Bergman, Malle, Ozu, Naruse... I am hugely exited!

    Here is some detailed info from the Criterion blog:
     
  2. Elijah Sullivan

    Elijah Sullivan Well-Known Member

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    Just when I thought Criterion couldn't get any cooler...
     
  3. ted:r

    ted:r Well-Known Member

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    Criterion and WB are the only companies out there who actually care for us DVD/movie enthusiasts.
     
  4. Will*B

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    As well as all those mentioned, it would be wonderful if they could visit some of the slightly less popular Godard films such as Une femme mariée, Pierrot le fou, or maybe even Made in U.S.A....

    Excellent news from Criterion.
     
  5. SteveGon

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    Maybe now Aki Kaurismaki will get the R1 recognition he deserves (with The Man Without a Past being the lone R1 exception). [​IMG]

    There's a lot of fine films in his catalogue that many around here would love.

    If they did a five-film set:

    Leningrad Cowboys Go America (a must, but they can skip the sequel)
    Drifting Clouds (arguably the best of his films on Finnish life)
    Bohemian Life (Kaurismaki does La Boheme, with a cast that includes Jean-Pierre Leaud, Louis Malle and Sam Fuller!)
    Hamlet Goes Buisness (Kaurismaki meets Shakespeare)
    and either the silent noir/tragedy Juha or the Godard-esque comedy Calamari Union
     
  6. Jon Martin

    Jon Martin Well-Known Member

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    Ok, this is amazing news.
     
  7. Haggai

    Haggai Well-Known Member

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    Definitely good news! The full-length Mizoguchi documentary from the '70s on the Ugestu DVD certainly whetted my appetite to see more of his movies. But with that being the only one of his movies released so far by Criterion, it might take about a decade just to get all the better known ones out there, on Criterion's regular schedule. And there were lots of great movies in the Naruse retrospective that I saw a lot of titles from earlier this year. They're releasing When a Woman Ascends the Stairs in February, which is excellent, but there were a lot of other very good to great movies I saw in that series that I'd love to have on DVD.
     
  8. Martin Teller

    Martin Teller Well-Known Member

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    Well, I haven't seen LCGA, Juha or Calamari Union, but I would demand The Match Factory Girl in there.

    And yeah, more Mizoguchi would be awesome, although I'd prefer his more prominent films (Sansho, Oharu, Chrysanthemums) in full-blown Criterion editions.
     
  9. SteveGon

    SteveGon Well-Known Member

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    MFG would be my next choice in lieu of Drifting Clouds - I think the five films I listed would provide a well-rounded look at K's oeuvre. These are all highly entertaining and I could see them going over well.
     
  10. Ted Todorov

    Ted Todorov Well-Known Member

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    Sansho Dayu was shown in a beautifully restored print at the NY Film Festival Janus retro this year, so I think that a full blown Criterion is guaranteed and soon.

    Criterion is also sitting on a large number of Truffaut films (I think they got the rights to all the Fox-Lorbers) and most of Malle's films.

    And I am hoping they will grab the rights to as much Rivette as possible, starting with Out 1 and L'Amour Fou which have no DVD releases anywhere, and Jeanne La Pucelle which has only a truly lamentable one.

    Ted
     
  11. Jon Martin

    Jon Martin Well-Known Member

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    The great thing here is the $15 price point. And, the whole subscriber or club program could be very interesting. Sort of the Book of the Month club for DVDs.
     
  12. Adam_S

    Adam_S Well-Known Member

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    so if most sets are three discs, that's probably about an MSRP of $50 or retailing at about 40-45. I can dig that.

    I can see a lot of initial sets being about 3 discs in size so criterion can test the waters to see what demand is actually there for Truffaut and Ozu and others. Kurosawa is so popular and profitable for them I doubt we'll ever see him in Eclipse.

    So let's see:
    Bergman
    Truffaut
    Ozu
    Mizoguchi
    Naruse
    Malle
    Imamuri
    Godard
    Fassbinder
    Herzog
    Antonioni
    Bunuel
    Clair
    De Mille (silents?)
    Eisenstein (sounds?)
    Powell (early stuff?)
    Ford (silents?)
    Fuller
    Hitchcock (silents & the bad England sound flicks?)
    Micheaux
    Renoir
    Visconti
    Woo
    Marker

    who else has a lot of unreleased films and a body of work interesting to the fringes of film buffs?

    Eclipse could also release Porter, Griffith, Lumiere, etc to compete with Kino...
     
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    How about Siodmak's German films?

    I also hope we'll see some sets of samurai films.
     
  14. Martin Teller

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    Kon Ichikawa
    Hsiao-hsien Hou
    Shunji Iwai
    Ermanno Olmi (I dunno what else by him is noteworthy, but I like what I've seen)

    And for the love of god, SATYAJIT RAY. The Apu Trilogy DVDs are awful (and out of print, I think) and there are tons of wonderful films not yet released: Charulata, Mahanagar, Devi, etc.
     
  15. mike kaminski

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    Wow, this is very exciting news indeed!

    I am hoping that the prints they get are not too badly damaged though--without any type of restoration, some of them can be pretty bad to watch.
     
  16. Ravi K

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    Artificial Eye in the UK released very good DVDs of the Apu Trilogy. I believe they were taken from HD masters, so Criterion could use these. And they include a few pretty good extras, though some commentaries would be welcome. Columbia totally f***ed up their region 1 discs.

    Eureka released a DVD of Abhijan. That's it for Ray on DVD, aside from some pirated Indian discs that are roughly VHS/VCD quality.
     
  17. Adam_S

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    what I imagine will happen (in terms of restoration) is that Criterion will run a wet gate transfer of the best film print they have to create a fine grain master positive--this is the easiest and cheapest way to fill in scratches and other minor damage. Then they'll scan it into an HD Master, probably only at 2k for Eclipse to save money and long term storage space. Then they'll run it through their MTI restoration programs only on automatic mode, but no manual labor on the films will be performed--so no frame by frame fixes. Some minor color correction and density proofing may be performed when the film is downrezzed to dvd resolution and some bad splices could be adjusted, in other words those minor manual fixes would be three days to one week of work (for a semi-decent) AE per film. The films won't look pristine but they'll still be better than old VHS transfers of worn out circulation prints.

    But I wouldn't expect them to bring in a $500/hour colorist to work for a month shot by shot perfecting a clone of the HD transfer for all future formats. [​IMG]

    Adam (who works in a Post house)
     
  18. Mark_TS

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    Claude Lelouch: La Belle Histoire
     
  19. Jon Martin

    Jon Martin Well-Known Member

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    There was a tour of his films a few months before Criterion released their two films of his, so there are quite a few out there, that have barely been shown in the US. I would think that the new line would consider them.
     
  20. Bill McA

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    I hope that they don't go the same route as Home Vision Entertainment did, by only providing subtitles for non-English language films.

    English subtitles for every film, please!!
     

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