RobertR
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In the midst of reading the collected works of Larry Niven. Just finished some of the Gil Hamilton detective stories. Before that it was Lucifer's Hammer.
I only know enough about Ultra to fill a paragraph. I think I shall give the Lewin book a try.Too bad Winston's WWI history is not a winner. I loved his 4-volume biography of the Duke of Marlborough.Dennis Nicholls said:The two biggest secrets of WWII were the atomic bomb and the code-breaking of Ultra. We disclosed the first by dropping a pair of them. But Ultra wasn't declassified until about 1973. Any history of WWII written before then has to be examined in light of the Ultra disclosures. A good book on Ultra is Ultra Goes To War by Ronald Lewin. You won't know how close we came to losing WWII until you come to grips with Ultra's contribution.
Never even heard of Sigler until I read your post. Now off to Amazon to buy a few books. I love creepy stories like this, the reviews and things I've read are all very positive.Elizabeth S said:I recently finished "Pandemic" by Scott Sigler, the last in the trilogy (following "Infected" and "Contagious") It was a bit slow to start but certainly picked up. "Infected" was so insanely good that it's hard to maintain for the follow-up novels, but I still enjoyed them.
I don't find much time to read nowadays, but another of my favorite series right now is Jonathan Maberry's Joe Ledger novels. I'm only up through "The King of Plagues".
Dave,DaveF said:What's the best Niven you've read so far? I've only read his collaborative story, "Footfall" and that was 20 years ago. I've been meaning to get a Niven book as one of my monthly Audible selections.
I listened to Ringworld and its sequel earlier this year. I really liked the first; the sequel was ok. I read Footfall in high school, and was very impressed back then. I'll look into the "Known Space" oeuvre.RobertR said:Dave,
Try any of the books that are part of the Known Space series, especially Ringworld.
I'll have to check out the Lewin Ultra book. I've wanted to know more about it.Dennis Nicholls said:David,I haven't found a standard history of WWI. Even Winston Churchill's The World Crisis isn't up to the quality of his later history of WWII. Alexander Solzhenitsyn's August 1914 is a good book but partially fiction: it covers the opening battles of the Eastern Front. The two biggest secrets of WWII were the atomic bomb and the code-breaking of Ultra. We disclosed the first by dropping a pair of them. But Ultra wasn't declassified until about 1973. Any history of WWII written before then has to be examined in light of the Ultra disclosures. A good book on Ultra is Ultra Goes To War by Ronald Lewin. You won't know how close we came to losing WWII until you come to grips with Ultra's contribution.
After a few detours as I read a couple of theological works, I finally got around to reading Ultra Goes to War. It was much more fascinating than I thought it would be. I expected it to be a long explanation of how the Enigma machines and Bombes worked. Thankfully, it wasn't about that, because I don't think I would have ever understood it. It was really about what Ultra accomplished and how its information was put to use. You hit the nail on the head when you said any WW2 history written before 1972 is probably incomplete (unless it makes constant references to "secret sources") because Ultra touched on every aspect of the war.Dennis Nicholls said:David,
I haven't found a standard history of WWI. Even Winston Churchill's The World Crisis isn't up to the quality of his later history of WWII. Alexander Solzhenitsyn's August 1914 is a good book but partially fiction: it covers the opening battles of the Eastern Front.
The two biggest secrets of WWII were the atomic bomb and the code-breaking of Ultra. We disclosed the first by dropping a pair of them. But Ultra wasn't declassified until about 1973. Any history of WWII written before then has to be examined in light of the Ultra disclosures. A good book on Ultra is Ultra Goes To War by Ronald Lewin. You won't know how close we came to losing WWII until you come to grips with Ultra's contribution.