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Best Pre/Pro

Discussion in 'AV Receivers' started by HughScot, Sep 3, 2003.

  1. HughScot

    HughScot Member

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    Yesterday you guys helped with me sub-woofers, now I want to know what you think is the best Pre/Pro if we assume the absolute best is the Theta Casablanca II. I currently have the Denon 4802 and it is excellent in its price class but if you had 10k to 15k or less to spend what would be your choice?

    Hugh
     
  2. Dalton

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    Lexicon MC12B
    McIntosh MX134
    Meridian 861
    Krell HTS 7.1
    These would be on my shortlist to try if i could afford it.......
     
  3. Dan Driscoll

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  4. HughScot

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    Thanks for the short list and I concur with the Lexicon for sure. Have not heard or read up on the McIntosh.

    As to the best being subjective I would disagree with your statement that it is always going to be different depending on the other equipment. A Porsche is better than Buick any day.....period. It is better made, it may not work for you but it is the best of the two. The best made and designed is what I was asking. Sure, the Mark Levinson # 40 at 30k made be the best to someone but not everyone; however, there are four or five mfg. who build the best equipment depending on your needs. Obviously Pioneer, Denon and Yamaha would not be on anyone's short list except based on cost. And I said in the under 15k category.

    Hugh
     
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    I know some will disagree(Lexicon owners) but Meridian is to me the absolute top end of the spectrum. They also have a digital setup for multichannel DVD audio which noone else has.

    That and they are infinitely configurable and their support is unreal with the numerous amounts of upgrades they provide. Of course they should for the price that they charge but I think they are worth every dime.
     
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    I agree with Shane, the Meridian is magnificent. But if you're willing to settle for a hair less performance, buy the Krell, Lexicon MC-8, or Classe SSP60. These pre/pros are all great units and cost half to a third of a fully loaded Meridian unit.
     
  7. HughScot

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    After a ton of research since you guys have been giving me your opinions I do agree that the Meridian 861 is one cool machine and compares well to the Casablanca. I don't think the Lexicon, while very good, is in their league. But then you have to look at the price of those two compared to the Lexicon MC12B. I'm going to be listening to all three this weekend and I doubt if I will be able to hear the difference or see any diff. And if all three are upgradeable and have everything I'll need then it may come down to price. No, I'm not buying yet but getting closer.

    Hugh
     
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    EAD Theatermaster. We have the Ovation Plus and it is amazing.
     
  9. Dan Driscoll

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    I have owned a McIntosh MX-130 in the past and this unit was sweet. IMHO even though I did like the sound from the Theata I did not feel it was worth the worth it cost wise vs the McIntosh. The Lexicon is a really nice choice as well. I would look into the McIntosh MX-134 as a serious option. There is soom really nice equipment out there in that price range and it depends on what features you want and what you will be using it for. Let us know how everything goes [​IMG]
     
  11. HughScot

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    I should not have said absolute best as that is a matter of opinion when comparing it with three or four others. I was interested in finding out what the other three or four others might be in someone else's opinion. And now I think I know. The Lexicon with its latest update, just announced, seems to be a very good piece of equipment.

    Hugh
     
  12. LarrySkelly

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    Also consider two Canadian entries, the Bryston SP1.7 and and Classe SSP-75. For pure 2-channel performance along with good processor performance they're probably hard to beat.

    Larry
     
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    I've never heard the Lex MC12B, but in hometheatermag that unit and the Parasound Halo C1 got almost identical scores. The C1 is $6000, the MC-12B $10,000. Or you could look at the C2, which is sonically identical to the C1, but retails for $4000.
     
  14. Curtis_Edwards

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    The short list for what he was looking for seems to be the following:

    Theta CBII
    Meridian 861
    McIntosh
    Lexicon MC-12B (could be had for less than 10K street price.)

    These are all pretty much in the 10K-15K price range.

    Under that price range in the 5K-10K I think the short list should be:

    Lexicon MC-8B
    Meridian G68 (soon to be released)
    Brston SP1.7
    Krell HTS 7.1
    Parasound Halo C1
    Anthem Director D1 (soon to be released)

    I think the under 10K list can grow pretty long but I think that about sums it up.
     
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    The Casablanca 3 will be out shortly with a new motorola chip, new operating system which will increase processing speed and they will finally add all the latest features like pro logic 2x and circle surround 2.

    configure this with some extreme dacs and it will give the competition a run for its money. I hope to be aboard that ship when it sails[​IMG]


    Bob
     
  17. Rich Wenzel

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    i have no idea which is the best among these

    bel canto
    krell
    lexicon
    theta
    meridian
    cary
    marsh
    classe
    ead

    and some people would say that the analog section of the naim is not rivalved...

    but i think meridian, lexicon and theta would be the most upgradeable...

    oh, there was one day that a porsche was not better than a buick...the buick GNX owned the 944 for that year...sometimes it does shine on a dog's ass

    Rich
     
  18. Jared Neumann

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    I tried many even had the krell hts7.1 is my theater as a demo. It was awsome but for half the price i setteled onthe krell showcase. Im no audiophile so the differences between them was not worth the money for me

    i love the krell products
     
  19. peter m. wilson

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    Hi,
    Your already on the right track with the Denon. checkout the review of the 5803 as it compares to seperates at audioholics.com and then wait for the 5804.

    Peter m.
     
  20. Curtis_Edwards

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    The Bel Canto stuff looks promising. Has anyone hear them?

    I am a Meridian and Krell fan myself.
     

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