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Are there any VMPS owners in this forum?

Discussion in 'Speakers' started by EdNichols, Jul 21, 2003.

  1. EdNichols

    EdNichols Second Unit

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    VMPS has a following in a couple of the other forums so I just wondered if there were any in this forum. If so what speaker do you own and how do you like it?
     
  2. Kevin_R_H

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    Hello Ed,

    I own VMPS RM40 speakers - I've had them for about a year. I run them full-range with tube monoblocks (my preamp is tubed also).

    They sound just fine to me.

    Kevin
     
  3. EdNichols

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    Nice system,

    Did you compare the RM 40's with anything else? If so, how did the VMPS compare to what you listened to?
     
  4. Jack_Geo

    Jack_Geo Stunt Coordinator

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    Ed:

    I own a pair of VMPS RM2 Neo's (had them about 6 months), and absolutely love them. I'm looking to get the center channel and maybe some 626R's for surround duty down the line.

    They're big, heavy, and are a joy to listen to...I'm not sure what your situation is, but I'd definitely give them a listen if you're in the market for speakers.

    Jack
     
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    I have a pair of RM1's. I previously had some mid-range B&W's and these are a large leap from those. I auditioned many others at dealers including the Revel Performa series speakers, some Dynaudio's and some Thiel's in the $2-3k raange and none really gave the VMPS' a close contest.

    They are definitely not for everyone as setup is sometimes problematic. They are highly tunable whch means if you have the patience and the ear to set them up, you can do things you simply can not with most other speakers. On the other hand, if you aren't able to tune them well, you won't quite get the magic.

    Tim
     
  6. EdNichols

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    That is the only thing that concerns me. I have heard that they definetely require lots of tweaking. I know they have lots of adjustment and maybe that is how they are able to sound so good. Most speakers the only adjustment you have is placement in the room, whereas, I think with these guys you can adjust bass, midrange, treble also. I would be afraid I would just screw things up worse with that much adjustment. Any comment? Also, I am looking at the RM 1's and wondered if any of you have compared the RM'1's to the RM'2's?
     
  7. RobertR

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    Ed,

    You CAN tweak VMPS speakers quite a bit, but I wouldn't say you have to for them to sound good. I own a pair of ribbon edition FF1s, and I love them. I think the VMPS ribbon models in the $5k-10k range easily compete with other speakers costing 5 times as much.
     
  8. Kevin_R_H

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    Ed,

    Prior to buying the RM40s, I had extended auditions with each of the following speakers:

    > Avantgarde Duo
    > B & W Nautilus 801
    > Gershman Acoustics Opera Sauvage
    > Magnepan MG-20.1
    > Martin-Logan Prodigy
    > Sonus Faber Amati Homage
    > Thiel CS-7.2
    > Vandersteen Model 5

    Note these speakers cost from $10,000 to $20,000. They all had strong points (and weak points). After almost a year of research and listening, I had decided upon the Gershmans for my new system. I had multiple conversations with Ofra Gershman in Canada. She was nice enough to even take some snapshots of their various finishes, and send them to me to help me decide which finish I wanted.

    However, the completion of the home my wife and I were building got delayed 3 months, and in that interim, I "discovered" VMPS. I haven't looked back. Now I'm not going to tell you how the RM40s destroy all those speakers, because it wouldn't be true. But I'm certain that you could have 20 audiophiles audition all these speakers, and few (if any) would select the VMPS as being the "budget wannabe pretender".

    As for speakers in RM40's price range, I auditioned only the Thiel CS-3.6. However, they were set up so poorly, it's not fair to judge them. Note my old speakers are Thiel CS-3.5s, and the RM40s surpass them (in my room / with my equipment) in just about every way.

    I have no exposure to any other VMPS speaker.

    Kevin
     
  9. EdNichols

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    Kevin,
    I guess you had a dealer whereby you could audition the VMPS or did you just take a chance and order them from VMPS on trial?
     
  10. Kevin_R_H

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    Ed,

    I ordered them on their 30 day trial.

    Kevin
     
  11. EdNichols

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    Jack,

    What are using for your center now? I am assuming that it is not a ribbon? If not, how does what you have now match with your RM's on surround sound?

    One more question for all of you, what are you powering your speakers with?
     
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    No, Matt, that is an excellent question,and it has to do with the fact that they come "over damped" from the factory since it would be a hassle for an owner to run out to the hardware store to pick up extra dampening putty (especially such a small amount).

    It is actually good to "break them in" with a little extra mass, as it loosens them up a bit more quickly. Most however don't need the extra mass, and it can be removed and saved incase they change their rooms or the dampening character of their rooms.

    9 times out of 10 however the pea size will get you close in the average room.

    You would also want to remove more if you were running tubes full range, since their dampening factor and control of the woofer is generally not as powerful as SS.

    Hope that helps,

    ATB
     
  15. Jack_Geo

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    Ed:

    I'm currently not using a center channel...or surrounds for that matter. As I'm most concerned with music, rather than critical movie listening, I haven't taken the plunge. For the limited amount of DVD's I watch, the RM2's in stereo do just fine for me. I realize that in that way, I'm probably in the minority. Lord of the Rings still sounds pretty darn good, though!

    I'm powering them with an old Fisher amp right now (don't laugh) but have two of the nOrh Le Amp II's on order. When they ship, they'll power the RM2's. Down the road, I'll probably pick up a separate amp for the low end, and use the Le Amp II's for the mids and highs.

    I'm waiting for the IRD-Audio LLC-Sabai to come out, and that'll be my pre...

    Hope this helps...

    Jack
     
  16. EdNichols

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    Jack,

    I think that you are using an old Fisher amp to drive the RM2's is great!! Because if I do take the plunge I will be driving them with a an el cheapo receiver for a while until I can upgrade that also. If they sound good with the Fisher then I bet they will absolutely sing with the new amps. I'd love to hear about it when you get it hooked up.
     

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