1. Guest,
    If you need help getting to know Xenforo, please see our guide here. If you have feedback or questions, please post those here.
    Dismiss Notice

Apple replaces Ron Jonson with a dubious choice

Discussion in 'Apple' started by Sam Posten, Jan 31, 2012.

  1. Sam Posten

    Sam Posten Moderator
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 1997
    Messages:
    19,963
    Likes Received:
    1,585
    Location:
    Aberdeen, MD & Navesink, NJ
    Real Name:
    Sam Posten
    In the what were they thinking department....
    http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2012/01/dixons-retail-poor-reputation-precedes-browett-seen-as-bad-for-apple.ars
    http://gigaom.com/2012/01/31/who-is-apples-new-retail-boss-and-what-will-he-do/
     
  2. Sam Posten

    Sam Posten Moderator
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 1997
    Messages:
    19,963
    Likes Received:
    1,585
    Location:
    Aberdeen, MD & Navesink, NJ
    Real Name:
    Sam Posten
    Tim calls him the best by far:
    http://www.macrumors.com/2012/02/01/tim-cook-on-new-retail-chief-john-browett-the-best-by-far/
     
  3. Sam Posten

    Sam Posten Moderator
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 1997
    Messages:
    19,963
    Likes Received:
    1,585
    Location:
    Aberdeen, MD & Navesink, NJ
    Real Name:
    Sam Posten
    Update: Ano Baka!!!!!
    http://www.loopinsight.com/2012/08/16/apple-boss-tries-to-gut-retail-operation/
     
  4. Sam Posten

    Sam Posten Moderator
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 1997
    Messages:
    19,963
    Likes Received:
    1,585
    Location:
    Aberdeen, MD & Navesink, NJ
    Real Name:
    Sam Posten
    And in other retail news, Giz got the Genius Handbook:
    http://gizmodo.com/5938323
    Lawsuit at 11.
     
  5. Sam Posten

    Sam Posten Moderator
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 1997
    Messages:
    19,963
    Likes Received:
    1,585
    Location:
    Aberdeen, MD & Navesink, NJ
    Real Name:
    Sam Posten
    Bleh:
    http://arstechnica.com/staff/2012/08/op-ed-apple-store-may-be-shifting-from-customer-experience-to-profit-machine/
     
  6. Craig S

    Craig S Premium
    Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2000
    Messages:
    5,703
    Likes Received:
    182
    Location:
    League City, Texas
    Real Name:
    Craig Seanor
    One thing I don't understand about all these rumored changes... Weren't the Apple Stores already profit machines? I believe I've read these stores are the most profitable retail space in the country, if not the world.

    My first question is to Mr. Browett: Rule # 1: If it ain't broke, don't fix it. So why are you screwing with the most successful B&M operation on the planet? Seriously, all you had to do was just let your people run things as they had been and collect your big-ass paycheck.

    My second question is to Tim Cook: You have a reputation for not suffering fools gladly. So how much more bad press and lowered employee morale are you going to tolerate before you Papermaster this clown? You've just delivered a serious ass-whupping to Samsung - time to turn your steely gaze inward and clean house before permanent damage is done.
     
  7. Thomas Newton

    Thomas Newton Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 1999
    Messages:
    1,484
    Likes Received:
    13
    The article says that the Apple Stores generate SEVENTEEN TIMES MORE revenue per square foot than the average for mall stores. Revenue isn't the same as profit, but we know they're not "losing money on every sale". That's without considering that the Apple Stores are advertising for Apple's brand, and probably help to drive sales of Apple products through other channels like the online Apple Store and Best Buy and Verizon and AT&T.
    Sounds like this new retail executive wants to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs.
    EDIT: Here it says that the profit margin is "only" about 22 percent. So Apple is taking in $1238 per square foot of PROFIT, while the average mall store has to live on only $341 per square foot of REVENUE, and this guy thinks it's a good idea to squeeze the customers and employees alike!!!!!
     
  8. HDvision

    HDvision Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2007
    Messages:
    1,056
    Likes Received:
    185
    Location:
    Paris, France
    Real Name:
    David
    Now that Steve is gone, the destroyers are going to nuke the stores. It's a given, only a matter of time. The destroyers are all the people who come from commercial schools, who don't have a clue about commerce, but have a speech and re-organisation plans too make more profits right now, rather than in the long run, by destroying properties. They are the end of western civilisation.
     
  9. Sam Posten

    Sam Posten Moderator
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 1997
    Messages:
    19,963
    Likes Received:
    1,585
    Location:
    Aberdeen, MD & Navesink, NJ
    Real Name:
    Sam Posten
    Not so sure about that. Apple makes mistakes just like everyone, it isn't the end of their run.
    http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2012/08/29/report-traces-apple-store-turmoil-all-the-way-to-tim-cook/
    even and probably especially at the top.
     
  10. HDvision

    HDvision Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2007
    Messages:
    1,056
    Likes Received:
    185
    Location:
    Paris, France
    Real Name:
    David
    Hopefully, yes. That was a serious blunder thought, way to break the morale of the troops.
     
  11. Hanson

    Hanson Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 1998
    Messages:
    4,617
    Likes Received:
    116
    Real Name:
    Hanson
    Maybe they'll rehire John Sculley.
     
  12. andrew markworthy

    andrew markworthy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 1999
    Messages:
    4,769
    Likes Received:
    11
    I think I should add the following in the interests of balance, as I'm guessing a lot of folks on this thread have never encountered Dixons before. *All* UK electric goods retailers are like Dixons. In other words, in most cases, shopping in one of these stores is a dispiriting experience. There are honourable exceptions, but they are few and far between. Only specialist camera and hi-fi shops are worse (generally, just as clueless but oh so patronising as well).
     
  13. Sam Posten

    Sam Posten Moderator
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 1997
    Messages:
    19,963
    Likes Received:
    1,585
    Location:
    Aberdeen, MD & Navesink, NJ
    Real Name:
    Sam Posten
    Turns out he really did want to sell sugared water all his life and not change the world =p
     
  14. Sam Posten

    Sam Posten Moderator
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 1997
    Messages:
    19,963
    Likes Received:
    1,585
    Location:
    Aberdeen, MD & Navesink, NJ
    Real Name:
    Sam Posten
    Canned his ass today, other big changes too:
    http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2012/10/29Apple-Announces-Changes-to-Increase-Collaboration-Across-Hardware-Software-Services.html
     
  15. mattCR

    mattCR Well-Known Member
    HW Reviewer

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2005
    Messages:
    10,471
    Likes Received:
    368
    Location:
    Overland Park, KS
    Real Name:
    Matt
    The loss of a Sr. VP in IOS development is a huge change. I think this is a lamb over the Maps application. Engadget tends to agree

    http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/29/apple-executive-shakeup-scott-forstall-and-john-browett-out/
     
  16. Craig S

    Craig S Premium
    Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2000
    Messages:
    5,703
    Likes Received:
    182
    Location:
    League City, Texas
    Real Name:
    Craig Seanor
    Glad Browett is gone; he was clearly on the road to screwing up what Ron Johnson had built. I imagine Apple retail employees are celebrating tonight.

    Forstall going is HUGE! His absence at last week's event was telling. I think Maps was just the final straw; John Gruber says he's apparently been at odds with Ive and others over design issues for some time; in addition, he has a rep for being quite abrasive. Gruber's thoughts are, as always, very illuminating:

    http://daringfireball.net/2012/10/forstall_out

    Look for faux leather, stitching, torn pages and other useless eye candy to disappear from Apple's apps over the next year. Good riddance.
     
  17. Sam Posten

    Sam Posten Moderator
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 1997
    Messages:
    19,963
    Likes Received:
    1,585
    Location:
    Aberdeen, MD & Navesink, NJ
    Real Name:
    Sam Posten
    If it had to be Forstal or Ive I can only go by what others have reported about the two and hope they made the right call, but what a Sophie's Choice....
     
  18. Ted Todorov

    Ted Todorov Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2000
    Messages:
    2,943
    Likes Received:
    19
    Really? From what I have read Forstall had plenty of reasons to be fired other than Ive being allergic to him. And I don't think it is much of a choice between them either -- there are others who could do Fostall's job (his old boss Bertrand Serlet, the man who replaced him Craig Federighi), but with Steve Jobs gone, Jonny Ive is unique. In addition to his design prowes I hope Ive becomes Apple's main keynote guy -- he is their best public speaker.
     
  19. Craig S

    Craig S Premium
    Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2000
    Messages:
    5,703
    Likes Received:
    182
    Location:
    League City, Texas
    Real Name:
    Craig Seanor
    I know we've all seen Ive on those promo films in the white "heaven" room, but I don't recall ever seeing him speak publicly at an Apple event.

    At any rate, scuttlebutt is Phil Schiller is set to increasingly become Apple's public face. Not to mention yesterday's bloodbath left him as the clear #2 man (and potential successor to Cook) at Apple.
     
  20. Ted Todorov

    Ted Todorov Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2000
    Messages:
    2,943
    Likes Received:
    19
    Ive gave a fantastic speech at the Steve Jobs memorial (he followed Al Gore) and Ive was the best speaker at the whole event.
     

Share This Page