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Any other Sigma SD10 users or am I a lone wolf in a pack of sheep?

Discussion in 'Photography' started by Brett DiMichele, Jun 21, 2004.

  1. Brett DiMichele

    Brett DiMichele Well-Known Member

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    I realize most people go with Nikon and Canon due to two
    major influences. Either you are a long time Ni/Can user
    and already have a cache` of Nikkor or L glass or you really
    dig the marketing of said companies.

    When I was shopping for my D-SLR I looked closely at the
    D100 and the 10D and the SD10 (at that time the Drebel and
    D70 didn't exist).

    I didn't let advertising lure me into any purchase I sat
    down and thought about what was important to me and the
    absolute rule for me was the image quality at full size.

    For me I chose a camera which had what I thought was the
    best image quality for the money that I could afford. I
    wouldn't throw my nose up at a Canon 1D but at the time I
    couldn't afford the 1D body. And honestly I wouldn't chose
    any other body over my SD10 other than a 1D [​IMG]

    Now do not mistake my words as critisism of the other models
    because I feel that right now is a great time for digital
    photography as a whole and it just keeps getting better and
    better. The Drebel and D70 are amazing advances in DP and
    drove the pricer to own a DSLR lower than most people thought
    it possible. Looking back just 3 years you had no choice
    but to spend 3K on a body and now you can get a great body
    for $900.00 you just have to love it!

    *edit* While I am at it.. Why don't I post a gallery? [​IMG]

    http://www.westol.com/~brettd/sd10/gallery/
     
  2. Brett DiMichele

    Brett DiMichele Well-Known Member

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    I realize most people go with Nikon and Canon due to two
    major influences. Either you are a long time Ni/Can user
    and already have a cache` of Nikkor or L glass or you really
    dig the marketing of said companies.

    When I was shopping for my D-SLR I looked closely at the
    D100 and the 10D and the SD10 (at that time the Drebel and
    D70 didn't exist).

    I didn't let advertising lure me into any purchase I sat
    down and thought about what was important to me and the
    absolute rule for me was the image quality at full size.

    For me I chose a camera which had what I thought was the
    best image quality for the money that I could afford. I
    wouldn't throw my nose up at a Canon 1D but at the time I
    couldn't afford the 1D body. And honestly I wouldn't chose
    any other body over my SD10 other than a 1D [​IMG]

    Now do not mistake my words as critisism of the other models
    because I feel that right now is a great time for digital
    photography as a whole and it just keeps getting better and
    better. The Drebel and D70 are amazing advances in DP and
    drove the pricer to own a DSLR lower than most people thought
    it possible. Looking back just 3 years you had no choice
    but to spend 3K on a body and now you can get a great body
    for $900.00 you just have to love it!

    *edit* While I am at it.. Why don't I post a gallery? [​IMG]

    http://www.westol.com/~brettd/sd10/gallery/
     
  3. Max Leung

    Max Leung Well-Known Member

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    To answer the question in the subject line: Yes! :p) [​IMG]

    The sensor is great, but unfortunately the SD9/10 just doesn't have good lens support for Nikon or Canon lenses. That's too bad. Hopefully in a few years the sensor will be more widely available.

    It's great you are loving your camera...got any pics to add to the best pix thread? [​IMG]
     
  4. Max Leung

    Max Leung Well-Known Member

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    To answer the question in the subject line: Yes! :p) [​IMG]

    The sensor is great, but unfortunately the SD9/10 just doesn't have good lens support for Nikon or Canon lenses. That's too bad. Hopefully in a few years the sensor will be more widely available.

    It's great you are loving your camera...got any pics to add to the best pix thread? [​IMG]
     
  5. Julie K

    Julie K Well-Known Member

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    I disagree - you're just a black sheep in a field of white sheep. We are all little sheeps being led towards the slaughterhouse with the promises of beautiful new lenses....

    I wants my precious, my own 70-300mm IS DO....

    [​IMG]
     
  6. Julie K

    Julie K Well-Known Member

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    I disagree - you're just a black sheep in a field of white sheep. We are all little sheeps being led towards the slaughterhouse with the promises of beautiful new lenses....

    I wants my precious, my own 70-300mm IS DO....

    [​IMG]
     
  7. Brett DiMichele

    Brett DiMichele Well-Known Member

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    Max,

    Yes I do have many pix to add.. I am going to do that later
    on [​IMG]

    I *just* got my PC back up and running [​IMG]

    As for the lens support it's always changing for us Sigma
    guys and gals.. See we have support in the oddest of places
    like right in Japan! There is one particular fellow who has
    been working furiously to replace the SA mount with an EF
    mount and it *Can* be done.. It's a permanent modification
    but the comminication protocol in the SD's is basicaly the
    Canon EF protocol with a different bayonet mount and that
    is about it.

    Sigma has some fantastic lenses that can best the top of
    the line from Ni and Can IMHO but not "all" of their lenses
    are that good. And it certainly would be a godsend to be
    able to use EF lenses that would be my only major gripe
    aside from the actual "speed" of the camera.

    That is something else I hope Sigma and Foveon can address
    in future models. I would be completely pleased with a body
    that can shoot at 5 FPS for about 30 Frames and it can be
    done.. We have a guy who tore a dead SD9 apart and we poked
    around all the circuits and the Sigma camera isn't even
    using 1% of it's processing power. It runs a 233Mhz StrongArm
    CPU but only runs at 10Mhz we presume to conserve on power..

    So I am sure they can work something out faster in the future [​IMG]
     
  8. Brett DiMichele

    Brett DiMichele Well-Known Member

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    Max,

    Yes I do have many pix to add.. I am going to do that later
    on [​IMG]

    I *just* got my PC back up and running [​IMG]

    As for the lens support it's always changing for us Sigma
    guys and gals.. See we have support in the oddest of places
    like right in Japan! There is one particular fellow who has
    been working furiously to replace the SA mount with an EF
    mount and it *Can* be done.. It's a permanent modification
    but the comminication protocol in the SD's is basicaly the
    Canon EF protocol with a different bayonet mount and that
    is about it.

    Sigma has some fantastic lenses that can best the top of
    the line from Ni and Can IMHO but not "all" of their lenses
    are that good. And it certainly would be a godsend to be
    able to use EF lenses that would be my only major gripe
    aside from the actual "speed" of the camera.

    That is something else I hope Sigma and Foveon can address
    in future models. I would be completely pleased with a body
    that can shoot at 5 FPS for about 30 Frames and it can be
    done.. We have a guy who tore a dead SD9 apart and we poked
    around all the circuits and the Sigma camera isn't even
    using 1% of it's processing power. It runs a 233Mhz StrongArm
    CPU but only runs at 10Mhz we presume to conserve on power..

    So I am sure they can work something out faster in the future [​IMG]
     
  9. Brett DiMichele

    Brett DiMichele Well-Known Member

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    Julie,

    In retrospect I like your analogy better than mine..
    I certainly don't want all the Ni-Can's comming in here and
    giving me a beat down! [​IMG]

    We are all hooked by the sickness [​IMG]
     
  10. Brett DiMichele

    Brett DiMichele Well-Known Member

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    Julie,

    In retrospect I like your analogy better than mine..
    I certainly don't want all the Ni-Can's comming in here and
    giving me a beat down! [​IMG]

    We are all hooked by the sickness [​IMG]
     
  11. Tom Meyer

    Tom Meyer Well-Known Member

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    I would have seriously considered it if they supported Nikon lenses. Just couldn't sacrifice the $$ I've already spent on my 50mm f1.8, 105mm f2.8, 20mm f.28 and 28-200f3.5-4.5. And I'm really diggin' the 10.5mm f2.8 DX fisheye that I got soon after my D70.
     
  12. Tom Meyer

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    I would have seriously considered it if they supported Nikon lenses. Just couldn't sacrifice the $$ I've already spent on my 50mm f1.8, 105mm f2.8, 20mm f.28 and 28-200f3.5-4.5. And I'm really diggin' the 10.5mm f2.8 DX fisheye that I got soon after my D70.
     
  13. Brett DiMichele

    Brett DiMichele Well-Known Member

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    Tom,

    I fully understand where you and many others come from on
    the lens situation. I have a Nikon N008 35mm SLR but I do
    not have any "good" lenses for it (just basic Quantaray
    which is re-branded Sigma's bottom of the barrel lenses) so
    nothing held me back as far as lens descisions.

    And I also thought about it and the Sigma EX lens selection
    had all of the lenses I needed since I don't do any corrected
    perspective architectural photography I didn't need any
    T/S lenses and Sigma makes more than big enough primes and
    zooms for nature photography and has some great macro lenses
    as well.

    I honestly would like to have a 1D because I feel after
    shooting an SD10 that's the only other body that will deliver
    the pixel level sharpness that the Foveon sensor delivers
    and with the 1D you get better color accuracy. But right
    now I have other priorities.. Maybe I will wait till the
    MKII 1D's flood the market and prices drop even further on
    the 1D non MKII's and pick one up then.
     
  14. Brett DiMichele

    Brett DiMichele Well-Known Member

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    Tom,

    I fully understand where you and many others come from on
    the lens situation. I have a Nikon N008 35mm SLR but I do
    not have any "good" lenses for it (just basic Quantaray
    which is re-branded Sigma's bottom of the barrel lenses) so
    nothing held me back as far as lens descisions.

    And I also thought about it and the Sigma EX lens selection
    had all of the lenses I needed since I don't do any corrected
    perspective architectural photography I didn't need any
    T/S lenses and Sigma makes more than big enough primes and
    zooms for nature photography and has some great macro lenses
    as well.

    I honestly would like to have a 1D because I feel after
    shooting an SD10 that's the only other body that will deliver
    the pixel level sharpness that the Foveon sensor delivers
    and with the 1D you get better color accuracy. But right
    now I have other priorities.. Maybe I will wait till the
    MKII 1D's flood the market and prices drop even further on
    the 1D non MKII's and pick one up then.
     

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