Why is it that only Lowry/DTS can remove or minimize grain without removing high frequencies? Or do studios just go too far with their own DNR (which is probably it)?
Except when it came to "Citizen Kane".Robert Harris said:Lowry has a proprietary system. Where their processing can take many seconds per frame, others can move frames through at much higher speeds.
Both remove grain, as can numerous other software packages, but only Lowry can reduce the grain while losing nothing of the image. I've seen their system in action, and find it amazing.
If I remember correctly, didn't someone from Lowry say that they made a mistake and removed too much grain from Citizen Kane?Robert Crawford said:Except when it came to "Citizen Kane".
Of course it has which is why I attached a smilie to my sarcastic comment.Stephen_J_H said:To be fair, the algorithm used in Citizen Kane was an early version. One would hope the terchnology has improved in 8 years.
RAH,Robert Harris said:I met the individual responsible for Citizen Kane. They were totally unfamiliar with the film. The word "embarrassment" doesn't come near how they feel.
Total operator failure by someone who was not given enough information. I also believe that this was a very early post-beta version of the program.
Properly directed their work was superb.
After seeing the DVD, I decided I liked my LD better. Yeah, it's scary what they might do.Dave H said:Not to jump the gun, but one has to serious wonder just how bad something like Godfather will be DNR'd when it comes to BD. Paramount has quite the track record for DNR too.
Given that the Godfather films have recently been digitally restored under RAH's supervision, hopefully all Paramount will do is downconvert the restoration files to BD resolution. I'm sure RAH will advise us if the case turns out to be otherwise.Dave H said:Not to jump the gun, but one has to serious wonder just how bad something like Godfather will be DNR'd when it comes to BD. Paramount has quite the track record for DNR too.
Edwin,Edwin-S said:Okay. The only complaint I have is that somehow you seem to be equating and blaming this practice on the BD format, when the blame properly lies with the studios. It is they who are creating grainless masters through the use of DNR. BD is only the means, not the cause, for studios to transmit their 'washed' product.
I'm sorry. To the original poster, Mr. Harris. When I read the review I got the impression that somehow the BD format is responsible for the way these films are appearing.Robert Crawford said:Edwin,
To which person are you referring to?
If you read Robert Harris's "A few words about... THE LONGEST DAY" ( http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/...y-blu-ray.html ), another title he had issues regarding DNR with, you'll see that he isn't faulting the Blu-ray format at all, but rather the studios. This quote from that review in particular confirms this:Edwin-S said:I'm sorry. To the original poster, Mr. Harris. When I read the review I got the impression that somehow the BD format is responsible for the way these films are appearing.
I'm not hidebound or close minded. If I think I have made a mistake then I will admit it. Also, if you think I'm attacking him then that is your interpretation. My intention is not to attack him and I don't think I am. I think he has strong feelings on the use of DNR so I think he should just take a firmer stance and not recommend the film.Vincent_P said:I have to say, though, that I find it odd that you started out bashing Robert Harris on one issue, and when you were shown to be wrong in that regard, you've now moved on to attack him on another issue. What's up with that?
Vincent