1. Guest,
    If you need help getting to know Xenforo, please see our guide here. If you have feedback or questions, please post those here.
    Dismiss Notice

$2500 to pre-wire house, worth it?

Discussion in 'Speakers' started by Frank.Ch, Jul 18, 2004.

  1. Frank.Ch

    Frank.Ch Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 10, 2004
    Messages:
    29
    Likes Received:
    0
    My friend is getting his house built, and the builder is offering to pre-wire the family room area for $2,500.

    I've never personally liked in-wall / in-ceiling speakers, and I think that is awfully expensive. My friend is leaning away from pre-wire.

    What do you guys think? Is $2,500 to pre-wire 6.1 too much?

    If looks didn't matter, are floor-standing speakers and externally mounted surrounds far superior to in-wall speakers in you opinion?
     
  2. MikeNg

    MikeNg Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2004
    Messages:
    440
    Likes Received:
    0
    How big is the room (I.E is having speakers sitting around the room going to be an issue)? Will they pull other wire along with it (CAT5, coax, video, etc.)?

    I think that's a little steep for pulling just one room. If he's going to do it - I say do it right and pull wire for the whole house - whether he currently plans to use it or not. He can also see if the builder will allow a third party to do it, which may cost him substantially less plus he may get more out of it.

    IMO, it's considered an upgrade to the home and should be treated as such. And now would be the time to do it while the walls are open (I presume they still are!).
     
  3. Greg-ST

    Greg-ST Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2003
    Messages:
    193
    Likes Received:
    0
    Depending on the size of the room that seems pretty expensive.

    The wiring may not be for in-wall/in-ceiling speakers. He might put terminals in the wall where you can connect external speakers.
     
  4. Robert Cowan

    Robert Cowan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2003
    Messages:
    504
    Likes Received:
    0
    thats insane.

    tell the builder to go fu** himself.

    we do pre-wires, and are generally considered expensive (we are a higher end store), and we charge around $2k for a whole house (medium-sized), bigger ones can run up to $4k, but thats for the HOUSE. if we use premium wire (audioquest inwall), and do wiring for remote pads, etc... it can be more. but that is really insane.
     
  5. Kenneth Harden

    Kenneth Harden Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2002
    Messages:
    1,365
    Likes Received:
    0
    $2,500 is INSANE for a HT system like that!

    Figure, if the sheetrock is not up (I assume), it might take a few hours and MAYBE cost $50 for wire if they use really good stuff.

    $500 would be more like it.
     
  6. Brad_See

    Brad_See Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2004
    Messages:
    178
    Likes Received:
    0
    ripoff. Tell him to do it himself before the walls go up. It's not hard.

    brad cook
     
  7. Frank.Ch

    Frank.Ch Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 10, 2004
    Messages:
    29
    Likes Received:
    0
    Thanks for the replies. I don't have the dimensions of the room and specifics of the offer, but I felt $2,500 was way too high (it's more expensive than my Klipsch Synergy series sounds sytem with the Yamaha 5760 altogether!).

    Thanks for confirming that.
     
  8. Joey_V

    Joey_V Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2004
    Messages:
    354
    Likes Received:
    0
    tell him to screw himself.
     
  9. DavidNighorn

    DavidNighorn Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2003
    Messages:
    112
    Likes Received:
    0
    Get a qualified HT installer to do the job before the walls are insulated. For $2,500 you should be able to do the entire house. Plus, a good installer will be aware of emerging technologies such as whole-home A/V distribution and can guide you toward an expandable system.

    For $2,500 plus beer, I am sure that several of the forum members might be persuaded to help you! [​IMG]

    David
     
  10. gregD

    gregD Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2003
    Messages:
    420
    Likes Received:
    0
    I personally wouldn't pay $25 to pre-wire... I refuse to live with in-wall speakers... no wife, no WAF.

    But seriously... your friend really should take the opportunity to wire the house while in construction... it will add considerably to its value... include computer networking as well as AV, while you're at it... prohibitively expensive to do it later.

    Dunno if $2500 is a good value in your area... it will have much to do with how extensive your wiring needs are... at the very least get competitive bids from 3 or 4 subcontractors... your general contractor may not be the best source for this specialty work; they may well bid it out to those same subcontractors and mark it up considerably.
     
  11. Lee Distad

    Lee Distad Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2004
    Messages:
    166
    Likes Received:
    0
    I concur with the responses above.

    Up here $2500 will do a HUGE house for audio/video, and data.

    Did I mention that for us, that would be CANADIAN money?

    Also, never let your builder do it. Electricians are very good at what they do, which is wiring in your 120-220 grid. But most of them approach A/V wiring as an afterthought, and unless the homeowner is actively dictating his needs, they may or may not be passant on the latest and greatest in structured wiring.

    Not to shamelessly plug my industry, but for god's sake, get a specialist to do the pre-wire.
     
  12. Richard Beckman

    Richard Beckman Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2003
    Messages:
    34
    Likes Received:
    0
    Outrageous! For that investment you should get everything you want in a structured wiring system for the whole house - including speakers in a couple of rooms.
     
  13. Mike_Gr

    Mike_Gr Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2003
    Messages:
    176
    Likes Received:
    0
    Have you exhausted all networking efforts? Call all your friends and ask them if they know any electricians or maybe some do-it-yourselfers that know how to wire. Ask your co-workers. Call anybody you can think of.

    Odds are there is somebody out there that one of your friends/relatives/co-workers/etc. knows who can do that type of work and needs some extra cash. Start making phone calls. Nothing will save you more money than some aggresive networking.
     
  14. DorianBryant

    DorianBryant Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2004
    Messages:
    1,555
    Likes Received:
    0
    If you have the interest, buy a book or access some DIY sites. It is very easy to do. $2,500 is way too much. They would be making huge profit. $2,500 is about what I paid for my audio equipment!
     
  15. Jason Brent

    Jason Brent Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2002
    Messages:
    268
    Likes Received:
    0
    I concur that it's too much $$ for just that room. But, definitely pre wire the WHOLE house. cat 5, rg6, and fiber at least. Wire is cheap, especially when taken in on new construction. There are some really cool whole house audio, and lighting controls from Vantage and OnQ, that if he/she wanted to integrate, the whole house pre wire would really help.
     
  16. ChrisPATT

    ChrisPATT Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2003
    Messages:
    63
    Likes Received:
    0
    Is there any reason you can't do it yourself? When my house was being built, I was able to run the wire myself. I didn't do inwall speakers, just ran the wire and installed the terminals for external speakers. It was the first time I had ever done it, and it took me about 1 hour.
     
  17. Michael Reuben

    Michael Reuben Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 1998
    Messages:
    21,769
    Likes Received:
    2

    This is essential. I wish I'd done it 8 years ago when I was having our place rewired.

    M.
     
  18. Brad_See

    Brad_See Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2004
    Messages:
    178
    Likes Received:
    0


    I think it's just as easy to go wireless.

    brad cook
     
  19. Kwang Suh

    Kwang Suh Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 1999
    Messages:
    849
    Likes Received:
    0
    $2500 is a total rip-off. I got some prewiring done (surround speakers, outside deck) for $180!!!
     
  20. John Kilroy

    John Kilroy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 1997
    Messages:
    196
    Likes Received:
    0
    I did all the wiring in our house before the drywall went up. It is not hard if you are keeping it simple.

    In addition, if you roll that $2500 into your 30-year mortgage, it ends up costing more like 10K for a day's work and a couple hundred feet of lamp cable in your walls.

    JK
     

Share This Page