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post #271 of 719
1/22/03 at 10:51am
This game is Mine !
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post #272 of 719
1/22/03 at 3:49pm
Thread Starter 
I don't have Socom, so I'd appreciate any input that others have as well. It's been the topic of discussion before, and it had been decided that it was 16:9, but perhaps we need to revisit it.

Thanks,
-Dave
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post #273 of 719
1/23/03 at 4:05am
It's not 16:9, trust me. I've reduced the overscan on my set and if a game isn't widescreen, I'll see crap on the side of my set, and this game has crap on the side.
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post #274 of 719
1/23/03 at 10:34am
SOCOM *IS* 16:9, regardless whether they "cheated" by elongating things in 4:3 mode. The game looks great in widescreen on my tv, i am missing no info when compared to the 4:3 picture (i switched back and forth)...the 16:9 picture looks far better proportionally, too.
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post #275 of 719
1/23/03 at 11:34am
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It's not 16:9, trust me. I've reduced the overscan on my set and if a game isn't widescreen, I'll see crap on the side of my set, and this game has crap on the side.
Well, that's not entirely accurate. All video games have to protect for underscan, and I've noticed that some games do this more than others, so that you might have very thin black bars on the sides. This has nothing to do with 4:3 or 16:9, I've seen it on both.
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post #276 of 719
1/23/03 at 4:08pm
As far as the 16:9 v. 4x3 thing on Socom goes...

Just because it "looks" good in 16x9 does not mean the game is "true 16x9".

THERE IS NO WAY YOU COULD HAVE THE EXACT SAME IMAGE FILL BOTH A 4x3 AND a 16:9 SCREEN WHILE RETAINING ITS GEOMETRY.

It is just physically impossible.

If you want to argue that Socom "looks" better in 16x9, that is your right. I actually agree (see my above post).

But since there is no setting in the Socom software for screen size, and changing the PS2 "dashboard" does not affect the aspect ratio, it follows that Socom was built as a 4x3 game.

Now you could "sorta" argue that it is ONLY a 16x9 game (cuz it looks better wide), but then why wouldn't SOCOM have an option for "letter-boxed" play on 4x3 sets? Since I'd bet about 95% of people are still "stuck" with square TV's.
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post #277 of 719
1/26/03 at 12:08am
thank you, thank you, thank you! I've been saying SOCOM isn't 16x9 and everyone disagrees with me here

I've never been able to get this game in widescreen mode. The thing is, it's not really hard to tell. When you switch between 16x9 and 4x3, do you actually see more date/scenery/etc on the sides?
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post #278 of 719
1/26/03 at 9:54pm
Seems very thorough for the X-box but not the PS2 or Gamecube. Does anyone know the stats on: Kingdom Hearts, Dark Cloud, Rez, or Ratchet & Clank
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post #279 of 719
1/26/03 at 9:58pm
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With very few exceptions, PS2 titles are only added if they include a notable option, such as 16x9 or online play. Kingdom Hearts, Dark Cloud, and Rez are 4:3. I haven't heard anything about Ratchet & Clank.

-Dave
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post #280 of 719
1/29/03 at 1:03pm
You might want to add NHL2002 for the PSs -DTS4.1
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post #281 of 719
1/29/03 at 1:05pm
Sorry that was for PS2, NHL2002.
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post #282 of 719
1/31/03 at 11:07am
Nintendo Gamecube:

Smuggler's Run Warzones:
480p: yes
Widescreen: no
Online play: no

Disney's Magical Mirror
Starring Mickey Mouse
480p: yes
Widescreen: no
Online play: no
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post #283 of 719
2/2/03 at 8:47am
Odd that it hasn't been mentioned here but, The Getaway, as initially reported is NOT progressive.

That was a big reason I bought the game and have found zero information on a progressive mode.

It is 16x9 though.

I think the confusion stems from the UK version being 540p. I guess Sony decided the USA didn't deserve progressive.

Doug
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post #284 of 719
2/2/03 at 9:38pm
So your saying The Getaway on Xbox isn't progressive? That doesn't sound right.
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post #285 of 719
2/2/03 at 11:36pm
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So your saying The Getaway on Xbox isn't progressive? That doesn't sound right.


The Getaway was developed by Sony's Soho Studio and is a Playstation 2 exclusive...
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post #286 of 719
2/3/03 at 3:11pm
Skies of Arcadia for Gamecube
480P or 16x9?
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post #287 of 719
2/3/03 at 10:16pm
Damn, I thought it was on Xbox too, oh well looks like another game I won't be getting. Maybe I've been spoiled by big screen, and super clean graphics from xbox, I just can't play my PS2 anymore.

By The Way

Devil May Cry 2
480p no
16x9 no
DD 5.1 no!

That's it, no more PS2 titles unless all of those are YES!!!
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post #288 of 719
2/11/03 at 3:31pm
Thread Starter 
Added Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time

-Dave
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post #289 of 719
2/14/03 at 8:33pm
Xbox

Capcom Vs. SNK 2

480p- Yes
16x9- No
DD5.1- Yes (box isn't checked on the case)
Online- Yes
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post #290 of 719
2/16/03 at 8:53pm
GameCube

Die Hard: Vendetta

480p- YES
16:9- YES
DPLII- NO
Online- NO
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post #291 of 719
2/17/03 at 5:12am
Anyone know the specs for Indiana Jones The Emporer's Tomb for xbox?
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post #292 of 719
2/18/03 at 10:02am
Good news for baseball fans:

It looks like High Heat Baseball 2004 will be 16:9.

"* Compatible with HDTV 480p."

Link
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post #293 of 719
2/18/03 at 10:30am
Excellent News On High Heat !
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post #294 of 719
2/19/03 at 7:39am
Just so I am clear on this... For the Dreamcast, the only output option with 480p is the VGA output, correct? In other words, there is no component output or anything that I could use to directly connect a DC to an RPTV set that accepts 480p, right?

Also -- that being said -- there is no way to do 480p AND 16:9 on the DC, right? For those titles that support both, it would always be an either/or situation, correct?

Thanks!

- John...
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post #295 of 719
2/19/03 at 10:54am
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You will need to use a VGA adapter for 480p output. If your tv doesn't accept VGA input, you can get a VGA to component adapter from Audio Authority. I'd provide a link, but I can't get to the site at the moment. They are kinda pricey, but they fetch $80-90 on eBay.

AFAIK, F355 Challenge is the only Dreamcast game that you have to choose 480p or 16:9. The other games can run both at the same time, provided they support 480p and 16:9.

-Dave
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post #296 of 719
2/19/03 at 11:04am
Really? Wow -- that's surprises me -- but it sounds quite cool.

It just seems odd that they would program support in for something that would be so difficult to use -- anyone wanting to do 480p and 16:9 with a DC would pretty much have to buy a component adapter, right? I mean, there aren't any 16:9 480p VGA monitors that I know of -- and I've certainly never heard of one connected to a DC...

So -- am I missing something? Or was that the original coder's intent? That someone might just connect the VGA box to a component adapter so that it could be given as 480p input to a 16:9 device? That seems odd, yes?

- John...
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post #297 of 719
2/19/03 at 1:18pm
I've got a few PS2 additons to the list.



Burnout 2--Dolby Surround II

Ratchet and Clank--Dolby Surround II

ATV Offroad Fury-Dolby Surround

V-Rally 3-16:9 mode





Dan.B
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post #298 of 719
2/19/03 at 5:35pm
Thread Starter 
Dan, is ATV Offroad Fury supposed to be DPL II as well?

-Dave
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post #299 of 719
2/19/03 at 6:15pm
Dave: Yes, but I guess that is my question: Are there any DC games that are 480p AND 16:9? You seem to be saying that they were before -- and that seems odd to me.

Oddly enough, I've actually done some minor DC development -- although nothing 16:9 related. I haven't seen anything about progessive mode 16:9 on the DC before this post -- so that is why I was surprised to see that games are allegedly supporting it!

So, I'm still curious about exactly what is being supported. I can see 640x480 VGA mode from the DC -- but I'm just not sure what the 16:9 would be -- and whether or not that would be progressive...

- John...
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post #300 of 719
2/19/03 at 6:29pm
Thread Starter 
I'll just edit my prior post to avoid confusion.

-Dave
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