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Time After Time - SPOILER

post #1 of 108
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My wife and just finished watching this terrific movie and we noticed one thing that seemed to be missing. We haven't seen the movie in years, we never owned a copy of the movie till now.

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It is our recollection that at the end of the movie when Herbert and Amy return to his time, we see a photo of the two as a married couple back in 1890 or whatever year it was. In the DVD version, there is no picture, that we can see.

Are we recollecting something that was never there, or has it been deleted?
post #2 of 108
I saw an original 35mm print of TIME AFTER TIME a few months ago and I don't recall any photograph of the two of them at the end. Perhaps you're thinking of a scene from another time-travel film such as Somewhere in Time?
post #3 of 108
No, Peter. Johnny's onto something. I had the same eerie feeling yesterday evening.

Last night I finally found time to watch this DVD with my wife present...she's never seen it and I wanted her to. So I'd held off on the DVD till we had 2 hours free to watch it together. She enjoyed it thoroughly.

As the film ended, I was looking for the item Johnny speaks of, so I could point it out to my wife. It never appeared.

I very vividly remember it, but figured that my memory was faulty in the way Peter suggested of Johnny. I knew it wasn't Somewhere In Time I was thinking of (though these two would be a good double-feature, eh?). But I just figured I misremembered the ending.

Now that I see Johnny talking about it, I know I wasn't crazy. :p)

I just checked IMDB, but they don't have an "alternate version" listing for this film. Nor does it appear on "The Cut List" at DVDFile.

I can't speak for Johnny, but I myself only first saw this film on Cable TV back in the 80's. Pan-and-Scan, of course...I loved seeing it in 2.35:1 finally! Perhaps the HBO/Showtime/MovieChannel version from 15-20 years ago had this difference.

As the credits finished and I never saw this item, I considered (silently; didn't want to make a fool of myself in front of the wife...I do enough of that!) the difference in the tone of the film without this "misremembered scene". I decided that it was a nice touch, but didn't make a difference. In fact, I recalled wondering all those years ago how their exploration of the area earlier in the film could miss it!

I expect that somewhere out there is a slightly different cut of the film. I wouldn't mind having closure on this mystery, and any other differences that might exist. But all in all the movie I watched last night was as enjoyable as ever. A real classic. And while I for once found myself upset that there weren't more supplements, I can live without 'em. The play's the thing!


PS - Peter, you might want to put a spoiler tag on that! What you say is general enough, but can still lead one to put two-and-two together.
post #4 of 108
Is it possible you're all thinking of Back to the Future 3, where Mary Steenburgen plays another woman who marries a time traveller?

M.
post #5 of 108
Gentlemen....

As an ex-owner of an original 35mm print....

Owner of an old VHS copy....

Owner of a WIDE SCREEN laserdisc version....

And owner of the new DVD...

I can honestly say..... This "picture" scene has never been in any of these.

Now... thatz not to say that footage was not added to maybe a tv run.... But, this never appeared in any of the above.

Chris
post #6 of 108
My wife viewed this movie with me last week.

She agreed that this is an unquestionably great film. A "SCI-FI/Fantasy/Horror/Romance" movie that works! We both gave it "Four Stars". (Not bad considering that she initially wanted to turn it off after the first five minutes!)

As to the posed question: I have to admit that I had only viewed the movie previously in P&S (taped off HBO years ago). In the prior version that I viewed, I did seem to remember the picture in question at the end.

I probably still have that P&S tape out in the basement somewhere. If I can locate it, I'll let you know if our memories are "in sync" here, or if we're all "out to lunch" on this ...
post #7 of 108
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Is it possible you're all thinking of Back to the Future 3, where Mary Steenburgen plays another woman who marries a time traveller?


Definately Not.
post #8 of 108
There was a made-for-tv movie from 1979 called "The Two Worlds of Jennie Logan" that contains a scene like what has been described.

The movie starred Lindsay Wagner and Alan Feinstein as a young couple who buy an old 19th-century home to renovate.
While cleaning the attic, Jennie finds an old dress. When she tries on the dress, she finds herself back in time and meets the original owner of the house, who is an artist (Marc Singer). At first, she thinks the "time-travel" incident is a dream. But repeated wearings of the dress prove she is not dreaming. Her husband and friends worry that she is having psychological problems and don't believe her stories. Her best friend tells her she "was born in the wrong time" and these are just fantasies. Things become more complicated when she falls in love with the man from the past. Her husband, trying to make amends for a past infidelity, gives her a beautiful necklace. While in the present, she learns the fate of the man from the past, and dons the dress to save him. Her husband, in the present, has tired of her "stories" and plans to destroy the dress.

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He finds her wearing the dress and necklace, but she is dead. While cleaning out the attic preparing to move, he finds an old painting. The painting is of his wife, with children. She is wearing the dress, and the necklace he gave her. He finally is able to believe her story. She actually did travel to the past, and had a happy life with the man and their family, something she could never have had with him in the present.


The tv-movie was quite good. It had similar themes to "Time After Time" and moreso "Somewhere in Time". Maybe this is the ending you were thinking of?


post #9 of 108
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There was a made-for-tv movie from 1979 called "The Two Worlds of Jennie Logan" that contains a scene like what has been described...The tv-movie was quite good. It had similar themes to "Time After Time" and moreso "Somewhere in Time". Maybe this is the ending you were thinking of?
I've definately never heard of or seen this telefilm.


Back to the issue at hand, of the possible alternate ending (though to call it that blows it out of proportion; it's a minor change...an "enhancement" one might say...not worth worrying TOO hard about. Nevertheless: )

I just checked the Time After Time DVD's commentary track during the last 2 scenes and the closing credits. No reference was made to the other shot. So I looked at and thought about this:
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At the beginning of Chapter 34, as HG rushes into the museum and sees Stevenson with the knife at Amy's throat, you can see over HG's should (his right; viewer's left) a couple of portraits hanging on the museum wall. The top one appears to be a female by herself, somewhat matriarchal-looking. The bottom one seems to be a man and a woman, perhaps outside in front of a house, at the curb to the street. The latter picture might be the one I recall they focused on. But it's been so long I can't recall what was in the background of the picture. I feel like it was a tight picture, but that could be memory playing tricks on me.


The entire thing could be memory playing tricks on me. I've been caught "red-minded" here on HTF before. So I was prepared to keep my mouth shut over it.

But now that Johnny started this thread, and also Joseph Bolus seems to agree with us, we seem to have four people (including Johnny's wife) who recall this variation of the ending. At least two of us are remembering independantly of each other. That doesn't seem like mass-hypnosis to me.

I checked to see if I taped this off of cable. No, I don't have it. I must have bought the VCR after the thing stopped airing regularly, or I definately would have taped it. Explains why it's been so long since I've seen this excellent film! If Mr. Bolus can find his copy, then maybe we can find out something.

In the meantime, anyone else who can...HELP! :wink:
post #10 of 108
Can someone ask the question again without spoilers? My software prohibits me from reading them and I have seen Time After Time many, many times.

Besides, the thread title does say "spoiler".
post #11 of 108
Tino, why don't you instead click Johnny's e-mail icon and ask him privately to reveal the spoilers to you? Why ruin the movie for those who haven't seen it?

There are those HTFers who ignore the "Spoiler" in the heading, and though it's their own fault, there IS a different way for you to handle it, so why not do it that way? Just a suggestion.
post #12 of 108
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If I can locate it, I'll let you know if our memories are "in sync" here, or if we're all "out to lunch" on this ...

Bring me back a pastrami on rye, mustard only. I think Chris Dugger is right.

Jan
post #13 of 108
Jan, Chris Dugger can be right without proving the rest of us wrong.
post #14 of 108
I swear I remember the camera panning over to an old B&W picture on the desk or wall that had Wells sitting down and Amy standing behind him.
post #15 of 108
Dave

I just didn't feel like going to all that trouble, sorry. I certainly wasn't trying to spoil the film for anyone

Anyway, I think I got the gist of the question.

I own the VHS, LD, DVD and have a copy recorded off HBO many years ago. I have also seen TAT probably fifty times (including five times during its original theatrical run).

NOTHING has been changed or is missing from the DVD. I just checked. All the versions are identical.:b

Hope that helps.
post #16 of 108
I'm very familiar with this film having seen it numerous times on different formats, from the theater opening to the DVD and there has never been such a scene.......memory plays tricks.
post #17 of 108
Maybe when it aired on network TV (CBS I think?) they, as they are want to do sometimes, added something in to guarantee that we understood it was Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
a "happy" ending.


I do have a memory of this last shot though, unless is was The Shining I was remembering.
post #18 of 108
Can anybody say "Hannibal's brain-cutting scene"?

Actually, this should be easy to confirm (that the DVD is correct. Which it is, at least with respect to the original theatrical version). Somebody who has a tape of the cable broadcast just needs to fast-forward to that sequence and settle this.
post #19 of 108
Peter

As I said, I did just that. Nothing is missing or has been changed.
post #20 of 108
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Somebody who has a tape of the cable broadcast just needs to fast-forward to that sequence and settle this.

Not really, I have an HBO showing taped from 1990 and that scene is not in there. Like I said, maybe it was added in for Network broadcast. I don't know.
post #21 of 108
Sorry, Tino, I scanned your post too quickly and missed the part where you wrote "I just checked" :b .
post #22 of 108
Hmmm, am I being "Ignored" here? I hope not, I know that I can be a bit brash sometimes but hopefully not to the point of someone clicking the Ignore button on me!
post #23 of 108
So basically we have ruled out all possibilities except perhaps a network airing that may have added that scene?

I'm pretty confident that no such scene ever existed and this is simply a case of mistaken memories.

But that's just me. Feel free to continue speculating.
post #24 of 108
A mass hallucination then?

It's possible.
post #25 of 108
More like mass confusion.

See Kevin, I'm reading your posts.
post #26 of 108
If I was alone in this "confusion" I might take offense to that!


Does anyone around the Forum actually use the Ignore button? I mean, truly ignorant attacks are dealt with by the administrators rather swiftly around here so I never see any reason to use it, unless I was being childish about how much I disagree with someone.
post #27 of 108
I tried to resist chiming in (because I'm probably nuts), but couldn't. For whatever reason, I too remember the photograph ending.

My earliest viewings of the movie were not theatrical, or tape or ld or HBO, but broadcast TV. I'll not challenge those who have already ruled out all the others; I believe them (I do have the LD).

So just maybe it was a broadcast version cut or maybe mass hallucination, but I do remember the photograph Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
right where it should be - after welles and amy leave the welles museum, the camera finds it among the display items. What in turn seems odd to me is the "red text" coda, even though that's probably the way I've seen it the last half-dozen times I've watched the movie.


Glad someone brought this up - I've thought of this before the last couple times I watched it and wondered if I was imagining things. At least I'm not the only one.

One last dim possibility: My earliest exposure to the story itself was reading the novelization by Karl Alexander well before seeing the movie. I suppose I could allow for the possibility that this was a "book" scene that stuck in my head and never was filmed; but if the other "hallucinators" here never read the novel then that's not it either.
post #28 of 108
I've never read the novel, Darrell.
post #29 of 108
Given the fact that there is no objective evidence presented to back up the existence of this scene, I do think the simplest explanation is faulty memory. It's not the first time that multiple people have thought something existed that didn't.
post #30 of 108
Robert, there hasn't been objective evidence presented yet either to prove that it's faulty memory. Just because noone's verified that the scene exists yet doesn't mean that it does not exist. Logicially, it hasn't been proven yet that anyone is wrong here.

So far, all we've established is that if the scene a few of us are remembering really does exist, then it is at best "uncommon", and probably more like "rare" or "extremely rare".

For those of you who are posting just to say that those of us who recall this scene are wrong, I ask you this: what's it to you? We've already established that it's not a commonly seen item. Please don't post to add to that, or to add the opinion that you think we're nuts/senile/victims of hypnosis. It's getting insulting.

Please only post if you can verify that you checked something which noone else has checked yet (like a recorded-off-network-broadcast version), and can state whether the scene is or isn't there.

Best thing to do is to leave this thread alone unless you can report that you found the scene. Everyone else forget it. Move along. Nothing to see here but us crazy hypnotized Alheimer's victims.
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