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post #1111 of 1186
Agreed that it was a perfect teaser. Had a huge stupid grin on my face the entire time. Gave glimpses and hints of the bigger picture without overly spoiling things, and also tied things in with the LotR movies. It even did both of those together by mostly using LotR locations that we were already familiar with. Can't wait to see the final trailer though. All three LotR films had good-but-not-great teasers, but the final trailers for all three are among the best I've ever seen.
post #1112 of 1186

Watching the teaser last night didn't really strike, but watching it again this morning - when I got goosebumps - it connected for me. I am incredible excited now!

 

With The Dark Knight Rises, Prometheus and The Hobbit, next year is looking mighty fine!

post #1113 of 1186

VERY excited for this one.   This is my must see film next year, along with Hunger Games (which I'm hoping they don't f- up)

post #1114 of 1186
Looks awesome! Looking forward to this adventure once again.
post #1115 of 1186
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Originally Posted by Jim_C View Post

I don't think he's infallible, either. That said, I think PJ's vision of Middle Earth is nearly perfect. IMO, all he needs to do is draw on his previous experience creating LOTR and all will turn out well. As for King Kong, I was never a fan of the story but when I heard PJ was going to make it I went to the theater to support him, as my personal thanks for LOTR. It's too long but I enjoyed it.

Agreed, you can just get a sense this is going to be done just as well as LOTR from watching the documentaries, interviews, stills, and now trailer.
post #1116 of 1186
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Originally Posted by Neil Middlemiss View Post

Watching the teaser last night didn't really strike, but watching it again this morning - when I got goosebumps - it connected for me. I am incredible excited now!

With The Dark Knight Rises, Prometheus and The Hobbit, next year is looking mighty fine!

I couldn't agree more. Next year is going to be a good year at the box office!!!!
post #1117 of 1186
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VERY excited for this one.   This is my must see film next year, along with Hunger Games (which I'm hoping they don't f- up)

I am going in with low expectations for Hunger Games... very low........... Can't be disappointed if I am already expecting it to be bad.
post #1118 of 1186

Sequels, prequels and reboots. More of the same at the box office next year. I don't see anything strikingly original like Inception and Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World from two years ago.

 

The trailer looks like I hoped it would. Looking forward to it provided I can find a 2D showing.

post #1119 of 1186
Interesting. I pulled the trailer off of youtube, and looked at it in my editing software. it shows the footage as being 23.976 frames per second. It is a down conversion to 24fps. So what we are seeing in this trailer is NOT 48fps. I suppose its because there is no ability to play back 48fps in video format. This also means that the home video release will also likely be 24fps.

Doug
post #1120 of 1186
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Originally Posted by Douglas Monce View Post

Interesting. I pulled the trailer off of youtube, and looked at it in my editing software. it shows the footage as being 23.976 frames per second. It is a down conversion to 24fps. So what we are seeing in this trailer is NOT 48fps. I suppose its because there is no ability to play back 48fps in video format.
It's more likely because the trailer itself was made in 24fps, because all of the movies it will be playing before will be projected at 24fps. There's still benefits evident, with shots that are much crisper and demonstrate much less motion blur than a 24fps shot production would show. And since they just drop every other frame, there's no motion jitter like going from 24fps to 29.97. Most digital projectors should be able to handle 48fps playback, especially the RealD projectors.

Home video will be trickier. There's no good solution; the Blu-Ray can either dump every other frame as you suggest, or they can preserve the higher frame rate but chuck out half the vertical resolution by releasing it 1080i60 with 12 fields repeated every second, or they can release it 720P with at 59.94p with 12 frames every second repeated. If 48fps playback catches on, perhaps they'll make a revision to the Blu-Ray standard to permit 1080p48.
post #1121 of 1186
Is there anywhere on the web that I can watch this trailer without the infernal buffering I must endure? I know that's because of my Internet connection, but that also explains why I can't abide streaming movies. Thanks!

PatH
post #1122 of 1186
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Is there anywhere on the web that I can watch this trailer without the infernal buffering I must endure? I know that's because of my Internet connection, but that also explains why I can't abide streaming movies. Thanks!
PatH
http://pdl.warnerbros.com/wbmovies/thehobbit/trailer1/THE_HOBBIT_TRL_1_2D_IMAX_480.mov Right-click and "Save Link As".
post #1123 of 1186

It's hard to blame someone for "prequel" "sequel" when they were literary works written decades ago.. and there are many literary works that are full of sequels and prequels. 

 

While Scott Pilgrim was unique, it was also a box office bomb (http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=scottpilgrim.htm)  earning less then $32M against production costs of $60M...   So, that ensures you won't see that kind of thinking again.
 

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Originally Posted by Russell G View Post

Sequels, prequels and reboots. More of the same at the box office next year. I don't see anything strikingly original like Inception and Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World from two years ago.

 

The trailer looks like I hoped it would. Looking forward to it provided I can find a 2D showing.



 

post #1124 of 1186
I'm looking forward to a trailer more like Jack the Giant Killer, once they get a few more things done. My first thought during it was how I really wanted another directors take on this material. Looks very LotR lite to me. But that's okay... Looking forward to it regardless.
post #1125 of 1186
Favorite part of the trailer is at the end when Bilbo and Gollum meet and that oh-so-familiar music begins to play. smile.gif

Glad they didn't show Smaug. Don't want them giving away everything.
post #1126 of 1186

Will Smaug even be in this, since it's split into two parts?

post #1127 of 1186

I wondered that too.. I think Smaug may end up all in the 2nd part.. or we just see the beginning of that at the break point.   That's my bet.. we get JUST to that point, and then the film breaks.
 

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Will Smaug even be in this, since it's split into two parts?



 

post #1128 of 1186
I didn't think the songs from the book would work in a film, but from what I've seen in this teaser it looks like the Dwarves' song will work well. I also think I saw a bit of them doing the "glasses and plates song" when cleaning up after eating at Bilbo's.

Looks really good.
post #1129 of 1186
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Will Smaug even be in this, since it's split into two parts?


I have to wonder if we'll even see Smaug in this first movie, beyond maybe a quick, Gollum-esque glimpse during a flashback, or something. While Smaug's presence in the storyline is quite a big deal, he doesn't really appear much until the latter half of the book, from what I recall.
post #1130 of 1186
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Favorite part of the trailer is at the end when Bilbo and Gollum meet and that oh-so-familiar music begins to play. smile.gif
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One of the things I had troubling feelings about.. frown.gif I love the LotR trilogy but I really wanted something different with Hobbit. A shame a different director didn't get to do this one. With that said, I know it will be a good film... looking forward to seeing a hint or 2 of the effects work.
post #1131 of 1186

This is one of the best trailers I have seen in years. It really ramps up excitement in the movie without spoiling anything and without telling the story in 2 1/2 minutes. It doesn't hurt that seeing Gandalf, Galadriel, Rivendell, the Shire and old Bilbo himself are like seeing old friends we didn't expect to see again.

post #1132 of 1186

I saw the trailer for this at Tin Tin tonight. Very cool! I can't wait for this to come out. I thought it has the right feel to fit in with the LOTR. The trailer was in 3D by the way so I'm wondering if we can expect those to be converted for the Bluray release of this. 

post #1133 of 1186
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Originally Posted by joshEH View Post

I have to wonder if we'll even see Smaug in this first movie, beyond maybe a quick, Gollum-esque glimpse during a flashback, or something. While Smaug's presence in the storyline is quite a big deal, he doesn't really appear much until the latter half of the book, from what I recall.

Smaug is the MacGuffin that drives the story in the first half, but he's not seen until about half to two-thirds of the way through. He parleys with Bilbo for a few minutes, flies out and gets shot. It's kind of funny actually how quickly the MacGuffin is dealt with.
post #1134 of 1186
I loved the trailer, because I understand what Peter Jackson loves to pull out of Tolkien's world- awesome beauty pitted against dire evil, and to make you feel the threat.Plus the melodrama of true friendship, and true love. I read The Hobbit when I was 11, and I can tell you that the dwarves in my mind looked much more like garden gnomes than leather mini vikings, and there songs were more of a tankard pounding roar than singin' high and true.

Seems inevitable that dwarves as a whole will do well in terms of showing their culture and ability, nobility, even, One of my frustrations with LOTR is that they weren't shown much respect for being technically advanced , in metal work and architecture, and an old culture. JRD's Gimli makeup stifled his expressions, and the script made him comic relief. IF you grew up reading the Hobbit, and continued to LOTR by the time you got to the room of the last stand in Moria, it meant something, because you knew whose bones they were.
post #1135 of 1186
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Originally Posted by mattCR View Post

It's hard to blame someone for "prequel" "sequel" when they were literary works written decades ago.. and there are many literary works that are full of sequels and prequels. 

While Scott Pilgrim was unique, it was also a box office bomb (http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=scottpilgrim.htm)  earning less then $32M against production costs of $60M...   So, that ensures you won't see that kind of thinking again.

 



Scott Pilgrim was based on comics too, and clearly, the studios haven't exactly stopped making those movies since then smile.gif.
post #1136 of 1186
So what do you get when you cross Austin Powers, Star Trek and The Hobbit? Pure... Groovy... Awesomeness!! That's what you get!

Warning! Plot spoilers for the upcomming Hobbit Film
post #1137 of 1186

OMG. I could not look away. Now I cannot unsee it...

 

"I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream."

post #1138 of 1186
It could have been worse. They could have had Shatner and Nimoy do a duet.
post #1139 of 1186
I hope they use this as the score for the end credits! smiley_wink.gif
post #1140 of 1186

Oh dear:

 

http://movies.ign.com/articles/122/1223523p1.html

 

 

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A taped intro from director Peter Jackson preceded the footage. There is no honest discussion that can be had about this Hobbit footage without emphasizing the 48fps presentation. The film was shot this way and will be digitally projected this way, as well as presented in 3D. So what does 48fps movie footage look like as opposed to your usual 24fps theatrical movie experience? In this reporter's opinion, it looks like live television or hi-def video. And it didn't look particularly good. Yes, this is shocking, but I was actually let down by the Hobbit footage, as were a number of the other journalists that I spoke with afterward.
 
It looked like an old Doctor Who episode, or a videotaped BBC TV production. It was as shocking as when The Twilight Zone made the boneheaded decision to switch from film to tape one season, and where perfectly good stories were ruined by that aesthetic.
 
While 48fps may create a more realistic, "you are there" picture quality, it actually works against The Hobbit from the 10 minutes of footage we saw. This undeniable "reality" kept pulling me out of the movie rather than immersing me fully into its world as the Lord of the Rings films did; the very fantasy element, the artifice of it all (whether it's the wigs, fake beards or CG monsters) was plainly, at times painfully, evident.

 

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