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post #541 of 2829
9/29/05 at 1:03am
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Not bad but I fail to see what's so incredible about them.


Well, for one, it's about four times as many pixels per frame as the current DVD...
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post #542 of 2829
9/29/05 at 3:17am
With respect, judging from the stills, it doesn't look it. I don't know, perhaps the stills aren't presented in the highest possible quality. They look good, and yet, not good enough.
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post #543 of 2829
9/29/05 at 7:31am
worst hd transfer ever the jap hd is better the mbps in those images looks hopelessly low
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post #544 of 2829
9/29/05 at 9:28am
Anyone who has seen screen caps from the current DVD would be impressed by the detail in the HD bradcast. Perhaps I should have qualified it by saying the quality of the HD transfer is relatively incredible, compared to the muddy DVD.

Everyone has seen screen caps of Rachael smoking, or of the Police Headquarters, a million times on a dozen websites, but they've never, ever, had this much detail.

That said, people have also said that the HD broadcast isn't perfect - it gets blocky during action scenes.

Here's another pic, showing much more detail in Chew's face:

http://www.pluto.dti.ne.jp/~horikiri.../br07chew.html
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post #545 of 2829
9/29/05 at 9:37am
Yes that's a joke.
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post #546 of 2829
9/29/05 at 10:48am
Ive seen TNT HD broadcasts of movies that look like that.

Most of the stuff on the movies channels is done properly though.
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post #547 of 2829
9/29/05 at 10:55am
I caught the HD 2 times in the past month on sat. I have no idea about the print, but it's the same directors cut I have on DVD.

One thing is certain, it's the best picture & sound ever for BR. Could be a matter of my DVD being so compressed and the broadcast using a source print? The audio was DD 5.1 - I have 2.0 on the DVD which normally ends up going to PL2. The sat broadcast was better in every respect.

E
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post #548 of 2829
9/29/05 at 10:57am
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With respect, judging from the stills, it doesn't look it.


Open up one of the images in an editing program and examine the resolution. It's 1280 x 1088, which is four times that of the current DVD. Better yet, do a screen grab of one of the shots off the DVD and compare it side by side with one of these.
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post #549 of 2829
9/29/05 at 11:32am
size isnt everything
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post #550 of 2829
9/29/05 at 11:41am
.....resist....must resist.....
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post #551 of 2829
9/29/05 at 11:41am
Stronger yet, I expect the "upcoming" SE to look better than the present HD. Of course, the SE HD will rule them all (not just previous Blade Runner releases but every movie ever made from the beginning of time, that is).
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post #552 of 2829
10/10/05 at 5:04pm
Anyone get a chance to see Attack Of The Show tonight? I was reading this on another forum, but apparently they had an interview with Ridley Scott, and he says they hope to celebrate the 25th anniversary of BR with a theatrical re-release, and a new DVD... but he says the DVD will basically be the Director's Cut version only.

Sigh. Talk about a huge letdown, though many suspected it would be this way. I suppose I could take a "well, it's better than nothing" attitude, but this really stinks.
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post #553 of 2829
10/10/05 at 9:54pm
I just hope that alleged theatrical re-release turns out better than "Alien" did two years ago. There were posters in every theater in my area and reports of over 2,000 prints scheduled, then come Halloween the nearest place showing it was over 100 miles away.
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post #554 of 2829
10/11/05 at 12:21am
>>...but he says the DVD will basically be the Director's Cut version only.
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someone wake me. I must be having a nighmare....
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post #555 of 2829
10/11/05 at 4:10am
My kingdom for the original Theatrical Cut of 1982 (also known as 'The Thinking Man's Version')!
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post #556 of 2829
10/11/05 at 5:26am
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original Theatrical Cut of 1982 (also known as 'The Thinking Man's Version')

Why is it known as that?

MC
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post #557 of 2829
10/11/05 at 5:55am
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Why is it known as that?

Because some people are snobs.

The theatrical version does circulate on DVD. You just have to find it.
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post #558 of 2829
10/11/05 at 7:06am
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My kingdom for the original Theatrical Cut of 1982 (also known as 'The Thinking Man's Version')!


How can you hear yourself think over all that narration that tells you everything?

DJ
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post #559 of 2829
10/11/05 at 7:13am
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Why is it known as that?
Because it holds your hand so you won't get all confused and spoon feeds you every little cliché including the "happy" ending?

Nah, I'm not gonna get into that again because we all know what debate that will naturally lead to & personally I have heard enough of both of those arguments over the years to last me 498 replicant lifetimes.
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post #560 of 2829
10/11/05 at 9:46am
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I just hope that alleged theatrical re-release turns out better than "Alien" did two years ago. There were posters in every theater in my area and reports of over 2,000 prints scheduled (...)
I remember reading about that too a while before it got released. However the actual release was a lot smaller. BoxOfficeMojo reports a measly 347 theatres.
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post #561 of 2829
10/11/05 at 11:36am
Yes; I remember being very excited about seing "Alien" theatrically, and it turning out to be impossible.

But, at least we got a shiny new DVD with a bright, happy color palette.
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post #562 of 2829
10/11/05 at 3:23pm
I took some screengrabs from the Blade Runner DVD myself for comparison.

Here's Will's HD screengrabs:
http://home.chello.no/~jtellefs/BladeRunnerHD1.jpg
http://home.chello.no/~jtellefs/BladeRunnerHD2.jpg
http://home.chello.no/~jtellefs/BladeRunnerHD3.jpg

Here's my DVD screengrabs of the same frames. The difference is shocking! Bring on a new DVD! I resized the screengrabs from 852x480 to 1931x1088. Feel free to downsize them.

http://home.chello.no/~jtellefs/br.jpg
http://home.chello.no/~jtellefs/br1.jpg
http://home.chello.no/~jtellefs/br2.jpg
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post #563 of 2829
10/11/05 at 3:40pm
I would still love to get a decent new anamorphic copy of the DC. While an ultimate boxset would be amazing, if it can't happen just give me the film.

d
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post #564 of 2829
10/11/05 at 4:08pm
That is a stunning comparison, Magnus. 2007 is waaay too far away for me!
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post #565 of 2829
10/11/05 at 4:44pm
Wait, why the dramatic color discrepancy in the third shot comparisons? That scene has always had an orange sunrise glow about it in any theatrical or video incarnation I have ever seen it in.
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post #566 of 2829
10/11/05 at 9:32pm
I remember reading about that too a while before it got released. However the actual release was a lot smaller. BoxOfficeMojo reports a measly 347 theatres.

I worked at a theatre that was going to get the Alien DC, and we got word from Fox that it was being scaled back the Sunday before the release date, which is simply unheard of. We'd gotten times and everything. (Got a nifty poster out of it, though.)

In any case, I hope that the BR reissue doesn't suffer the same fate...
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post #567 of 2829
10/12/05 at 2:06am
original Theatrical Cut of 1982 (also known as 'The Thinking Man's Version')



Why is it known as that?



We desperately need the 'Original Theatrical Cut' because, despite some occasional voice over segments, which almost comes across as a sarcastic narrative accompaniment (Ford sounds as uninterested and detached as the character he portrays), this version is actually ambiguous about its most debated theme. And it's precisely here where the 'Director's Cut' takes the audience by the hand. Scott has turned suggestion into statement, insinuation into fact, and he did it with one single, out of place scene. In comparison with the perhaps unintentional outcome of the 'Theatrical Cut', the 'Director's Cut' merely comes off as a M. Night Shyamalan movie, you know, those movies with a twist ending, a formula flick that invites people to guess its plot and indulges them with an answer. Also, by being conclusive (now that it's no longer open for debate), the so-called 'Director's Cut' suddenly becomes more vulnerable to possible plot holes. Can the made statement truly hold water? It probably can, but some explanations are bound to be quite a stretch, making the movie as a whole less plausible.


Alex
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post #568 of 2829
10/12/05 at 8:36am
There is nothing rock solid conclusive about the DC IMO, it is just as open to interpretation as the theatrical version only without the silly Mike Hammer narration and the forced happy ending. As far as I am concerned sometimes a unicorn is just a unicorn.
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post #569 of 2829
10/12/05 at 8:47am
Maybe in real life it could be coincidence. But in movies, the Law of Setup and Payoff establishes that there must be a connection between two occurences of the same 'remarkable' thing. If the dream of a character gets materialized, it means something. For the DC, you have to accept it, or else the story makes even less sense than the original one.

Anyway, back to topic: do you think we'll see a high-def release of BR (at this stage I don't care which version)?
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post #570 of 2829
10/12/05 at 8:49am
I am SO glad I got HDNet in time to get this on my DVR. Too bad I don't have a D-VHS player, or I could unload it.
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