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post #121 of 2829
1/21/04 at 10:43am
This is BS... If we don't see a Blade Runner SE for this reason I don't know what the world has come to...
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post #122 of 2829
2/15/04 at 4:42pm
Hi everyone (It's my first post here..)

Im sad to say that I think that it will take ages until we could see this "Special Edition" and if the reason to the problems spells Perenchio then it could even take more time.

If Mr. Perenchio and Sir Scott are enemies then things could turn real ugly (Remember that Scott lost Blade Runner and got sacked once during production..) and Mr. Perenchio is in no way in some sort of financial trouble and are after more money, that's for sure. I think that this long lost "Special Edition" is turning out to be a bad sequel to "Grumpy old men" and I would really like to know why Perenchio still klings on to the Blade Runner original films (My guess is that many of the people making & financing Blade Runner has turned into enemies) and that things has grown out of their proportions.

A movie like Blade Runner should be released with all the bells and whistles that a DVD can hold, the current "Dir. Cut" DVD is really quite sad (Even thou it was a early released DVD) and it lacks both a good audiotrack (Dolby Digital Stereo) and a clean and crisp picture quality.

I think that people involved (Whom ever they might be) by now oughta understand and see what an great futuristic vision Blade Runner really is, swallow their pride and give us AND themselves a final DVD worthy the movie "Blade Runner"..
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post #123 of 2829
2/15/04 at 7:45pm
Thread Starter 
It's very disheartening that nearly two years after I started this thread we are no closer to this set than we were then. Perhaps this year will finally see a break in this most unfortunate stalemate.

I'm certainly not holding my breath though, that's for sure.

Nicklas, welcome to the HTF.
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post #124 of 2829
2/15/04 at 8:07pm
this thread should be retitled "the official never-to-be-released as a special edition dvd" thread
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post #125 of 2829
2/16/04 at 1:41pm
Well then goddamit Warner's just remaster the damn thing and re-release it in 16:9 with 5.1 and a trailer and tack on the BBC documentary to justify the SE on the packaging....
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post #126 of 2829
2/16/04 at 1:42pm
....yeah I know...it won't happen.
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post #127 of 2829
2/16/04 at 1:56pm
My current dvd is 2.35:1. Yes, even 5.1 would be nice though
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post #128 of 2829
2/16/04 at 2:02pm
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My current dvd is 2.35:1. Yes, even 5.1 would be nice though
Perhaps in the UK it is 16:9 enhanced but here in the states...it...it...well....ok actually it is over here too but the transfer isn't the best.
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post #129 of 2829
2/16/04 at 2:41pm
I think we should just write off the "super-duper" SE for now. Warner should just re-do the current version.
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post #130 of 2829
2/16/04 at 2:55pm
Thread Starter 
Dave H, I'd even settle for that as interim solution. New transfer please Warners.

We should bring this up at the Warners chat coming up.
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post #131 of 2829
2/16/04 at 3:59pm
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Perhaps in the UK it is 16:9 enhanced

I wouldn't know, I'm only visiting
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post #132 of 2829
2/16/04 at 4:06pm
Dave H & Heinz W,
that's pretty much what I was suggesting, remaster either the 1992 director's cut or the new director's cut and throw in enough tidbit's for an "SE" and later on down the road when certain stubborn parties have..."joined the choir"...then attempt to release the Super Special Edition.

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I wouldn't know, I'm only visiting
Oh, well ok....I guess the tag on your sig that says "somewhere in london, Eng" must have confused me as to your location and region. :p)
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post #133 of 2829
2/16/04 at 9:56pm
This reminds me of the Twin Peaks fiasco.

The only ones who get hurt in the end are the fans.
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post #134 of 2829
2/16/04 at 10:15pm
I second that. I think with Twin Peaks Season 2, Artisan didn't do the video transfers yet, so it was easy to walk away from completing the Second Season release. I only hope that Warner has put too much money into this SE to back out of the release just yet.
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post #135 of 2829
2/17/04 at 12:44am
With respect, Kevin M, I've been suggesting this idea of an interim edition for months now (see earlier in the thread). I've even set up a petition on the Studio Feedback forum, fantasising that - on the next Warners chat - we might be able to present hundreds of names in support. Might have got them to release an interim version, might have just reminded them to keep pushing for the S.E.- who knows ?

The amount of signatures on the petition so far ? About 15.
And that's after 200 plus views.

We've got a month or so left. I'm saying no more.
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post #136 of 2829
2/17/04 at 3:49am
Thread Starter 
I've just signed the petition Anthony. I strongly urge anyone reading this thread to please do the same.

Click here to sign
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post #137 of 2829
2/17/04 at 4:24am
Thanks for the link, Heinz. Duly signed.
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post #138 of 2829
2/17/04 at 4:46am
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With respect, Kevin M, I've been suggesting this idea of an interim edition for months now (see earlier in the thread).
I'm aware of that Anthony, but then again you aren't the first person to request this in the intervening years either...anyway I didn't think I was a vanguard or anything I just wanted to restate my own desire with some silliness thrown in for good measure.
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post #139 of 2829
2/17/04 at 8:08am
No problem, Kevin. It was 5 % ego and 95 % annoyance that the petition hadn't had many signatures. I truly don't give a damn who brings it up.

I just think there's a real possibility that this S.E may not happen before another format is so imminent that it's no longer worth producing for DVD.

Better a remastered DC with a commentary than nothing, right ? So I urge all Blade Runner fans and their friends and families to sign the petition. It'd be great to have a sizeable list to present at the chat.

Anyone with ties to the BR sites ? Maybe they could link to us here. We need to co-ordinate, keep up the pressure.
If anyone'll listen to us, Warners will.

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post #140 of 2829
2/17/04 at 8:58am
Just signed the petition.

I had never been a big fan of this movie. Saw it once in high school and was bored to death. Saw it again a few years later with the same reaction.

I rented it last week. Eight years have gone by since I last saw it, and I was completely blown away! I'm going to have to get what is out there now, but will upgrade to any versions that come out at a later date.

I can't believe it took me so long to appreciate this film.
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post #141 of 2829
2/17/04 at 9:21am
Just added my name as well.

Any bare-bones remaster would be most welcome now, and I'd buy again for the SE.
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post #142 of 2829
2/17/04 at 9:49am
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Eight years have gone by since I last saw it, and I was completely blown away!


I first saw the movie when it came out (I was 12). I was too young to appreciate it and was expecting more "Star Wars" type action from it since I was used to see Harrison Ford as Han Solo and Indiana Jones.

Now being 31, I appreciate it. It really is a great movie; definitely an underrated film.
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post #143 of 2829
2/17/04 at 9:53am
Anthony Nielson said:

"We've got a month or so left. I'm saying no more."



???????????
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post #144 of 2829
2/17/04 at 12:57pm
Quote:
"We've got a month or so left. I'm saying no more."

???????????
A month or so left until the Warner Brothers chat here at HTF is what I believe he meant. He hopes that if enough people sign the petition it may help convince WB to put out a minor SE to tide us over until the super fantastic special edition may be available.
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post #145 of 2829
2/17/04 at 1:59pm
I'm a little confused. Warner is already very aware that there is a huge demand for a new release of Blade Runner - far more than just the interested members of HTF and other DVD oriented forums. If they could release a better version, not just a fully loaded SE version, they would.

You could have a petition with a million names on it, but until the mutal parties with controlling interest of the film can all agree to allow this to happen - it won't.

The sistuation with Blade Runner is clearly out of the hands of the fans. Unless of course you are willing to give Perenchio an 'offer' he can't refuse.
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post #146 of 2829
2/17/04 at 2:21pm
Yes, I meant a month until the Warners chat.

Nils, I don't think the situation is that clear, is it ?
Warner Brothers have been focused on this special edition. I don't think releasing an interim version has been on their minds. Most of us are presuming that - because the Director's Cut is still freely available - this version in itself has not been tied up in the Perenchio situation.
If that's true then there should be no real problem in restoring that - indeed, the work may well have been done - and a commentary by Scott is probably clear as well.

Reading between the lines, I can tell maybe I've been a bit haranguing in my tone, and I apologise if that's the case.

The petition may well make no difference to the situation. I'm sure you're probably right. If you want to be absolutely CERTAIN that it won't, then don't sign it.
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post #147 of 2829
2/17/04 at 3:19pm
On the other hand, an interim edition could sell well to non-die-hard fans, drying up the sales potential of a special edition, which would then nix the prospects for a special edition for real...
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post #148 of 2829
2/17/04 at 3:56pm
That's a possibility. But I'd just reiterate that the impetus for this petition is the fear that this SE is now dead in the water. If there's some hope of it appearing anytime soon - if WB says, on the chat, that they're pretty sure it'll arrive in 2005 - then fine ; I've waited this long, another year won't hurt. But the word on it is pretty pessimistic.

That said, I'm not sure it would affect the SE that much anyway. If that was the way the market worked, then we wouldn't have had the T2 : UE or the recent Halloween release.
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post #149 of 2829
2/17/04 at 4:04pm
Post # 145 by Nils Luehrmann says:
give Perenchio an 'offer' he can't refuse


From what I've heard and read it seems like Mr. Perenchio's last problem in this world is spelled Money..

I think this is where the problem are, what is it that Mr. Perenchio want that will solve this problem.. or is it one of those problems that will stay un-solved. I think that our hope should be that Warner Bros. or maybe Sir Scott would get the ownership to everything that is "Blade Runner", then we might get so see our long lost and wanted final cut of Blade Runner

(By saying "Final cut" I mean the 1982 version and the new final directors cut)
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post #150 of 2829
2/18/04 at 1:52am
I think what is preventing the deluxe edition is the fact that Perenchio owns the original 1982 cut exclusively. The unsupervised "Director's Cut" version is owned exclusively by Time-Warner, so Warner Home Video can release that version on any format as much times as they want as long as they renew the copyright(s). So they could quite easily release a new DVD edition of Blade Runner: The Director's Cut with a new down-converted hi-def transfer, 5.1 sound and Scott commentary.

It is of great importance that as much information on this DVD release is garnered from Warner at the next chat. This is a great, great film - a film which is a very imporant work of late 20th Century art, in my opinion.
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