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post #121 of 388
List updated to note I have seen Shadow Of The Vampire. out of . It's an interesting work, but only at a tepid 92 minutes, not to mention horribly shot (I'll bring up that discussion in another thread, but it looks like 16mm blown up to Super 35); the saving grace is Willem Dafoe, who is simply amazing as Max Schreck.

Mitty, (I won't use your real name unless you let me! )

Besides this year, it has been pretty easy for me to choose my favorite film of the year. Dancer In The Dark and Requiem For A Dream, for me, speak the loudest and boldest for films this year, and they basically tie at #1 (however they remain #1 and #2 since I do officaly not use "tie" position). The previous decade, which includes Magnolia, Pleasantville, Boogie Nights, Fargo, Toy Story, Pulp Fiction, Short Cuts, Malcolm X, JFK and Goodfellas was pretty easy to award.

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post #122 of 388
Hey gang please forgive me, but I don't have ten to list.
My movie watching habits have been seriously affected by my lack of sufficient funds.

Anyway here's a couple of films I really enjoyed this past year.


1.) Unbreakable - The most underated and possibly misunderstood film of 2000. Without a doubt this film should be nominated for best picture of the year and Jackson should have been nominated for best actor. M. Night Shamaylan easily topped the Sixth Sense.

2.) Mission: Impossible 2 - The best James Bond film I've seen since True Lies. Tom was totally cool in this movie,I haven't seen a hero this badass since Blade.

3.) Erin Brockovich - Hey we all need that one feel good movie for the year and this film was it. Hey at least it didn't have Robin Williams in it.

4.) Crouching Tiger and Hidden Dragon - What the hell, I mind as well put it up on my list it was definitlely better than many other films I've seen this year. Although I've seen better Asian films of its genre (like Once Upon a Time in China and the Bride With White Hair 1 & 2). I still think this film is a bit overrated but not nearly as overated as Gladiator.

5.) The Patriot - Hey I enjoyed it. I was one of the few who thought it was better than Gladiator.

6.) Bring it On - Hey I enjoyed it. Afterall it had Eliza Dushku ( Faith from Buffy the Vampire Slayer) in it.

This list is definitley a work in progress. Until I see Traffic, Cast Away, Remember the Titans, Almost Famous, Bamboozled, Chicken Run, and Frequency not to mention quite few more films, Bring it On and the Patriot are on the standby to be replaced list.
post #123 of 388
I updated my list, Wonder Boys is now tied with Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon as my #1 Films of 2000.
After further evaluations, High Fidelity (now in 10th) moves a notch higher than Keeping the Faith (11th. Thirteen Days and the rest of the pack fell back one notch lower.

Thanks!
post #124 of 388
I added CTHD to my top 10 list, in addition to seeing a few of the other possible contenders. I must say that despite all the hype and the annoyance of an opening night hic Tennessee crowd, I still came away from Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon very impressed. A wonderful fantasy adventure film.

I still have not seen a film from 2000 that worked perfectly for me. I have hope that a few of the films I’ve missed will be able to fill that gap, but it is also likely that after repeat viewings, one of the movies I’ve already seen will emerge as a 10/10.

post #125 of 388
I got the Wonder Boys DVD (see my thread in software) and I watched it again...Brilliant, I've moved it to it's rightful spot.

Also saw High Fidelity...Killer. it's made the list and knocked "The Exorcist - TVYNS" from the chart.

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post #126 of 388
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Wonder Boys DVD - you c**k, hows that? Guess I need to go over to Software.


On the ease of a #1, yeah I think that 1 or maybe 2 films really just grab you and say "YOU LOVE ME", while the rest of the pack is more muddled. It's probably just how a film will click with your personal tastes as much as it is just how good the film is.

Looking back at mine:

-CTHD
-Fight Club (strong, after that it's a real dogfight though)
-Shakespeare in Love until I saw Run Lola Run (Elizabeth, Truman, SPR were near, but didn't challenge for me)
-LA Confidential (although Titanic and AGasItG were VERY close)
-Trainspotting (but was Fargo till I saw T'ing)
-Okay '95 was a mess for me - maybe Apollo 13 or U.Suspects
-Pulp Fiction (Shawshank has moved up, but not surpassed)
-Schindler's List (although Fugitive was the best "fun" film)
-Unforgiven (then I rented R.Dogs, which made it close)
-T2 (although Silence was the better dramatic film)

Geez, actually I guess I usually have a tough time picking a top film. This exercise has made me change my tune I suppose.
post #127 of 388
Okay, I have updated my Top Ten list. The best part of all of this is adding the commentaries. It forced me to think about the movies on my list and in the process I have made some reclassifications. You will find my list here or just look for Charlie Chaplin on the first page.

~Edwin

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post #128 of 388
Saw CT, HD again last night, and it was SOOO much better the second time around (much easier to follow). So, I'm bumping it up a notch. If I see it one more time (which I may tonight), it might take over You Can Count On Me. This film is growing on me like a virus!!!

Updated 2-6-01:

1. You Can Count On Me
2. C.Tiger, H.Dragon
3. Requiem For A Dream
4. Keeping the Faith
5. Erin Brockovich
6. Unbreakable
7. Chocolat
8. Pay It Forward
9. Girlfight
10. Cast Away


Page 3 has the rest of my lists.

- A.
post #129 of 388
A major revamp had just happened in my Top 10 list (in page 5). After watching Frequency (it made the list), Small Time Crooks and after another long hours of evaluations/thinking, I think I need more time to finalize their rankings , for now that's the best I could come up ... a lot of ties .

Still to see:

Before Night Falls
Best In Show
Chuck & Buck
Dancer In The Dark
George Washington
Girlfight
The House Of Mirth
Jesus' Son
Pollock
Requiem For A Dream
Snatch
Sunshine
Yi Yi
You Can Count On Me
Dr. T and Women
post #130 of 388
Saw House of Mirth, but my top 10 was in no danger from that one. It was a struggle to remain conscious.

Malena opened last weekend, I still need to see it. In the Mood For Love opens on the 16th. The trailer looked very good.

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post #131 of 388
I have now seen CT, HD 3 times in two days! I have to admit... I am totally engrossed by this film!!! The last time I remember enjoying a foreign film this much was when I saw Fellini's unforgettable Nights of Cabiria last year on DVD. I just can't get enough of it!!! As a matter of fact, I have the score playing right now! (I know... sad, isn't it?)

1. Croucing Tiger, Hidden Dragon
2. You Can Count On Me
3. Requiem For A Dream
4. Keeping the Faith
5. Erin Brockovich
6. Unbreakable
7. Chocolat
8. Pay It Forward
9. Girlfight
10. Cast Away


I just hope that Ang Lee keeps putting out films as enjoyable as this one from now on. I wasn't too impressed with Ride with the Devil, but I did enjoyThe Ice Storm and Sense and Sensibility. I'm actually looking forward to seeing his earlier Chinese films from his "Father Knows Best Trilogy."


- A.


post #132 of 388
List updated; saw "The Gift" tonight, and I liked it; Cate Blanchett will always be the greatest actress in the world and finally an excellent performance by Keanu Reeves. Very creepy, good characters and some surprises, but it will in no way be cracking my 25.

Jason
post #133 of 388
I just saw Dr. T and the Women DVD (I used my DVD rental pass in Blockbuster). I liked it. Hmmmm, maybe I'm giving it a 3/4 and I don't think it has a chance in cracking my Top 10. How about in my Top 20? It is very possible.

I am about to see Fantasia 2000 DVD.

Other films just seen :

Titus : 3/4 - Some people consider this a "1999 film".
UB-571 : 2/4
After Sex : 1/4
post #134 of 388
I updated my list here after watching Chuck and Buck and You Can Count On Me . Neither one made my Top Ten. Bummer.

~Edwin

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post #135 of 388
"Titus : 3/4 - Some people consider this a "1999 film".

That's because it is. It had minor release in New York/LA late December, and then a spotty release into other theaters in the following months (I got it in March).

It was nominated for Best Costume Design for the 1999 Oscars too.

Jason
post #136 of 388
Went to the local megaplex last Friday to catch Shadow of the Vampire only to discover it wasn't playing anymore. I can't believe it was pulled after only about two or three weeks in wide distribution. Especially with so much crap from several months ago still playing. If they had to make room for Hannibal, why yank Shadow of the Vampire??

Oh well, it gave me a chance to see Chocolat and I really liked it. It cracks my top ten at #8 (see page 1).

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post #137 of 388
All right, I'm finally ready to enter the fray. My Top Ten:[list=1][*]Traffic - Steven Soderbergh has been on a roll, and this film is his strongest yet, and probably the best film of the year. An engrossing examination of one the country's biggest problems, with no easy answers given. Traffic also features the best ensemble cast of the year - there are no weak links here.[*]Almost Famous - Being the same age as Cameron Crowe (and at least as geeky without the talent), this film resonated with me very strongly. It's a coming-of-age tale that ultimately believes in the basic goodness of people (even rock stars & groupies) - and what's wrong with that anyway??[*]Gladiator - One of this year's "love it or hate it" movies, and I loved it. More than the simple revenge tale that some have painted it as, the film's hero Maximus embodies courage, honor, and self-sacrifice - character traits strangely undervalued by our society. I can't imagine anyone other than Russell Crowe in this part.[*]You Can Count On Me - I find myself a little amazed to see this film at number 4 on my list, because I saw it somewhat reluctantly. But what a charming and perceptive film this is!! Laura Linney is amazing in this, and if there is any justice she will be taking home a golden guy next month instead of Julia Roberts.[*]Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon - Let's face it - most movies these days we've seen before. Therefore what a joy it is to watch Ang Lee create something new (at least for American audiences)! This is the one film on this list that I am most wanting to see again on the big screen, and it may indeed move up.[*]O Brother, Where Art Thou? - This joyous romp through a Depression-era Mississippi in a slightly wierder alternate universe eventually adds up to much ado about nothing. But the journey is so inventive and so much fun that it doesn't matter. The Coens are at the top of their craft here. This is the best-looking film of the year, and boasts the best soundtrack as well.[*]High Fidelity - A sly, funny look at modern guyhood. It shows us how stupid we can sometimes be without ever stooping to male-bashing. Every male here at HTF making these lists has at least a little bit of these guys in him!! Another great turn by John Cusack, and Jack Black was robbed of a Supporting nom.[*]Pollack - Ed Harris lives up to the hype with his performance as the tortured painter, and he's my pick for Oscar gold. That I expected from this film. What I didn't expect was how entertaining the film was, especially in its depiction of the physical act of painting and the world of modern art & art criticism in the middle of the 20th century. I love it when a film can help me gain appreciation for something I had little knowledge of before, and Pollack accomplishes that beautifully.[*]Sunshine - This criminally underpromoted film traces three generations of a Hungarian Jewish family through the turmoil of the past century. The film is anchored by Ralph Fiennes' expert triple performance. It's a gorgeous film too - I'm glad I caught it on the big screen.[*]Cast Away - Flawed, yet thought-provoking. Tom Hanks deservedly got his fifth Oscar nomination for his portrayal of a man who loses everything - but finds himself. Helen Hunt also does fine work in the last act of the film as a woman who must make a choice that will break two hearts.[/list=a]
Just Missed It Award: Return To Me - The late addition of Pollack has bumped it off my Top Ten, but I still want to highlight this film here because I doubt it will show up on too many other lists. And that's a shame, for Return To Me is the best pure romantic comedy in many a moon. Bonnie Hunt makes a promising directoral debut, and David Duchovny & Minnie Driver are perfect as a couple who really fall in love (not just in lust as is too often the case in movies these days). Rent this one for Valentine's Day - better yet, buy the DVD, for you're sure to want to see this again many times.

Honorable Mentions (in no particular order) - The Big Kahuna, The Cell, Remember The Titans, My Dog Skip, Wonder Boys, Chicken Run, The Virgin Suicides, Unbreakable, Snatch, All The Pretty Horses, Thirteen Days, The Legend Of Bagger Vance, Best In Show, U-571, State & Main, Nurse Betty, The Way Of The Gun, The Gift, The Tao Of Steve, Space Cowboys, Finding Forrester, Chocolat.

Biggest Disappointments (highly touted films which just didn't work for me) - Quills, Shadow Of The Vampire, The Contender.

Most Overrated Film - Erin Brockovich. Not a bad film at all, and Julia Roberts & Albert Finney do great work. However, it's just not Oscar/Top Ten quality.

Best Reissue - A Hard Day's Night

Worst Reissue - The Exorcist - The Version You've Never Seen (only for the tacked-on ending - the rest was awesome)

For the record, I have seen (so far) 57 films that were released in calendar year 2000.

Films of note which I still hope to see on the big screen in the next few weeks - The Claim.

Films of note which I missed and will have to wait for the DVD to see - Billy Elliot, Dancer In The Dark, Requiem For A Dream, The Girl On The Bridge, Chuck & Buck, Jesus' Son, Joe Gould's Secret, George Washington, Croupier, The House Of Mirth, Yi-Yi.

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post #138 of 388
I was just thinking about my Top Ten list and having not seen Chocolat yet and a few more films that should be more Oscar worthy than the films just nominated, my Top Four films, as they stood last night, correctly foretold four of the Oscar nominated films.

~Edwin

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post #139 of 388
Edwin, I love Juliette Binoche more than any other actress with the possible exception of Maggie Cheung, and Victoire Thivisol already has the world's greatest child performance under her belt for Ponette (my favorite, certainly). And I also really dig Lasse Halstrom (My Life as a Dog, Once Around, Gilbert Grape, though not The Cider House Rules). So, as you can imagine, I was quite looking forward to Chocolat.

But unfortunately it's utterly forgettable fluff - a single sustained cliche of contrived controversy and cardboard villians. You've seen this all before, done much better. Don't waste your time.
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post #141 of 388
Thread Starter 
Yeah, it's Pleasantville all over again, or actually simpler than that.

Repressed town led by repressed leader. Liberated character comes to town and liberates everyone. Leader objects and makes things hard on liberated character. In the end, the liberated character wins over the stuffy leader and the town is happy. And of course, along the way the liberated (wandering) character learns to settle down and no longer needs to go around liberating people...via love, of all things.

The characters are pleasant and likeable, as is the film, but it's really far from breaking into never before seen territory. That's what is dissappointing about it.
post #142 of 388
1 - Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon 9.5
The more I think about it, the more I like it. I've got to go see this one again

2 - Traffic 9.5
All the more powerful for the many takes it has on the "war on drugs" and the conclusions it leaves to the viewer

3 - Fantasia 2000 9.0
Not as groundbreaking as the original, but "Rhapsody in Blue" was great and many sequences took my breath away

4 - Thirteen Days 9.0
Riveting docudrama, despite the fact that I knew how it would play out. Both of the little known actors portraying the Kennedys were outstanding.

5 - Shadow of the Vampire 9.0
Despite dragging a little bit, I found this film mesmerizing. The premise alone had me glued, and Dafoe was stellar

6 - Shanghai Noon 9.0
The most fun that I had at the movies last year, and that's gotta count for something

7 - Chicken Run 9.0
Claymation "Great Escape" worked for both me and my four year old nephew.

8 - X-Men 8.5
Joins the list of best superhero movies, near the top.

9 - American Psycho 8.5
Christian Bale should have gotten an Oscar nod, IMO.

10 - Emperor's New Groove 8.5
The second most fun that I had at the movies last year. I wish Disney would do more like it.


Honorable Mentions -
O Brother, Where Art Thou? 8.5
Snatch 8.5
Almost Famous 8.0
Gladiator 8.0
Wonder Boys 8.0
Keeping the Faith 8.0

Haven't seen yet -
Requim for a Dream, Billy Elliot, You Can Count on Me, Finding Forrester, Quills, Unbreakable, Thirteen Days, Dancer in the Dark, Nurse Betty

All in all, I didn't dislike this year as much as many others seem to have. Not as good as last year, it seems, but some good movies mixed in there. The end of the year oscar push certainly helped things out.

post #143 of 388
I didn't see enough movies in the theater this year, so I'll just do top/bottom 7 lists:

1. Traffic - the more I think about it the more I like it
2. Thirteen Days - great performances
3. High Fidelity - Jack Black for best supporting actor!
4. Almost Famous - love Cameron Crowe movies
5. Gladiator - not Oscar-worthy, but highly enjoyable
6. Return to Me - both me and my wife loved it
7. The Gift - except for the ending

Also liked, but not worthy of the list:

Best in Show
Wonder Boys
What Lies Beneath
Final Destination

Overrated:

Meet the Parents
Frequency

Didn't see O Brother, Where Art Thou, Erin Brockovich or The Contender. Won't see Crouching Dragon Yelping Gerbil or whatever it's called. Martial arts don't interest me in the slightest (although I do like director Ang Lee). I'm sure I'll get slammed for this.


Worst of the Year:

1. Reindeer Games - why would these actors do this movie?
2. Down to You - new rule - anything with Freddie Prinze Jr. sucks
4. Keeping the Faith - dragged on and on
5. Mission to Mars - interesting for about five minutes
6. The Cell - costumes way overdone
7. The Patriot - Emmerich and Devlin crap once again

Worst career choices of the year - Gary Sinise for appearing in #1 and #5 above.

Worst screenwriter - Ehren Krueger (Reindeer Games, Scream 3, Arlington Road) Why does this guy keep getting jobs?

I didn't see Battlefield Earth or Gone in Sixty Seconds, but I assume they should be on the worst list.
post #144 of 388
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Won't see Crouching Dragon Yelping Gerbil or whatever it's called. Martial arts don't interest me in the slightest (although I do like director Ang Lee). I'm sure I'll get slammed for this.

I don't think you'll really get slammed for this, since that's against forum policy. I would say, however, that it's not in very good taste, and frowned upon by many here, to deride a film which you have not yet seen. To me it's like making fun of the brownies someone made simply because you're allergic to chocolate.
It would be better, and simpler, to just not mention it in your lists. Then, if someone asks you about it, you could say, "Nope. Don't really have any desire to see it."


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post #145 of 388
Saw The Gift yesterday and updated my list. No change in the top ten.

Another solid entry from Paramount Classics. A top drawer cast in a run-of-the-mill psychic, murder mystery, shocker. And, hey, Keanu Reeves was actually tolerable in this one!

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post #146 of 388

Top 10 of 2000 (Updated:05/08/01)


1. Requiem For A Dream (10/10)
2. Almost Famous (9/10)
3. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (9/10)
4. Traffic (9/10)
5. Oh Brother, Where Art Thou? (8/10)
6. Best In Show (8/10)
7. Wonder Boys (8/10)
8. High Fidelity (8/10)
9. Billy Elliot (8/10)
10. Erin Brockovich (8/10)

* Honorable mentions

11. Yi Yi (8/10)
12. You Can Count On Me (8/10)
13. Fantasia 2000 (7.5/10)
14. American Psycho (7.5/10)
15. The Whole Nine Yards (7.5/10)


Falling from grace:

[7/10]:
Chicken Run, Quills, Jesus' Son, Shadow of the Vampire, Cast Away, Unbreakable, Dancer In The Dark, Nurse Betty, Boiler Room, The Contender, Chocolat
[6/10]:
Ghost Dog: WoS, Gladiator, Shanghai Noon, Saving Grace, X-Men, U-571, The Way of The Gun, Titan A.E., What Lies Beneath, The Replacements, Charlie's Angels, Keeping the Faith, Reindeer Games
[5/10]:
Mission: Impossible II, Frequency, 28 Days, The Ladies Man, Gone In 60 Seconds, The Patriot, Scary Movie, Rules of Engagement, The Grinch Stole Christmas, Little Nicky, Dungeons and Dragons
"Other":
Mission to Mars (4/10), Pitch Black (4/10), Big Momma's House (4/10), The Skulls (4/10), Shaft (3/10), Battlefield: Earth (1/10)

In the wings : Sunshine, Before Night Falls, Tigerland

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post #147 of 388
Edited todat to add Quills. I normally can't stand period pieces, but thought this was really well done. And now I can stomach the fact that Joaquin Phoenix got an Oscar nomination, because he and Rush both were extremely good.

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post #148 of 388
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OK, as only a true engineering freak could want to do, I have retotaled what we have so far. Here's the current top 10:

Traffic - 286
Crouching Tiger - 271
Almost Famous - 240
Requiem fa Dream - 216
High Fidelity - 157
You Can Count OM - 133
Gladiator - 130
Oh Brother, WAT? - 100
Wonder Boys - 98
Erin Brockovich - 97


Top 10 appearances:

37 - Traffic
37 - CTHD
36 - Al. Famous
33 - High Fid
27 - Requiem
22 - Gladiator
20 - Oh Brother
19 - YCCoM
17 - Erin B.
16 - Wonder Boys

Average Ranking per Appearence (min 5 appearence):

8.0 - Requeim
7.7 - Traffic
7.6 - Way of the Gun
7.3 - CTHD
7.1 - Dancer in the Dark
7.0 - YCCoM
6.7 - Almost Famous
6.1 - Wonder Boys
6.0 - Unbreakable
5.9 - Gladiator


From all that it seems that a few films aren't really popular, but the people that do like them love them. Then there are some others that probably just haven't been seen enough, like Dancer in the Dark & Requiem.

If I had let the limit down then we would have several films that 1 person loved, which I thought was a more trivial stat. A film should have some group appeal, even if it's a small group.

It looks like many of us could be getting upset when that Best Pix goes out, if it goes to Gladiator. Only CTHD and Traffic go from our list into contention w/ Glad for the award.

It also makes the Chocolat nomination seem that much stranger, I think.


I still have to see Shadow, Cast Away, Wonder Boys, Contender, Dancer & Yi Yi and have not updated my list for several weeks. I did just see What Lies Beneath, but it wasn't worth mentioning. At times it was a cool Hitch-style film (like the ending - music and shots), but most of the time it seemed to be more the hack Hitch rip-off.

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post #149 of 388
I updated my list in page 5.

My Best Films of 2000 are (triple tie) :

Wonder Boys, Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon and You Can Count on Me (all A+ films)

(Almost Famous is #4, and Traffic is @ #5 and Thirteen Days fell to #6)
post #150 of 388
Edited my list to add Thirteen Days, which was much better than I had anticipated.
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