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post #181 of 3869
4/11/02 at 7:55pm
i think it would about time to uncover. it has been a long time in wwf with that mask.
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post #182 of 3869
4/11/02 at 8:21pm
AKA "Fake Diesel"

real name: Glen Jacobs
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post #183 of 3869
4/11/02 at 8:35pm
just do a search for "Glen Jacobs" and you'll see it

Maybe they are ready to unmask him
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post #184 of 3869
4/11/02 at 9:32pm
I wonder if they'll even give much of an explanation if his face doesn't have many scars or burn marks on it. They used to say how 90% of his body was burned, (and that's why he never wore short sleeves or anything and had gloves), but then he lost one sleeve, and then two, and then lost clothing material around the neck area.

Now if only they'd apply the same losing-clothes process to Trish Stratus.
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post #185 of 3869
4/11/02 at 10:38pm
Heh, he looks kind of like Jerry from E.R.
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post #186 of 3869
4/12/02 at 2:08am
He also lost his voice box didn't he? Did they explain that one?
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post #187 of 3869
4/12/02 at 9:51am
He used to not be able to talk, then able to talk with a wand, THEN they just dropped that
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post #188 of 3869
4/12/02 at 12:51pm
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He used to not be able to talk, then able to talk with a wand, THEN they just dropped that.


Yup. After being off tv for a time he's back with nothing more than a "He had an operation, King!" to explain it.

What *I* want to see done with Kane is to make sure that they keep him a terror inside the ring (ala Angle and the ankle-lock). That is fun, someone who can set the ringposts (and Regal's office) on fire, destroy midcard opponents at will ... and break open a midway claw-game because he couldn't win a prize for some kid.

For me, that means keeping the mask for a duality of horror in the squared circle AND comedy outside the ring.

Aaron Thomas
First time around his STACKER2 commercials did rule, but the kid and the claw was Kane's Funniest Video.
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post #189 of 3869
4/12/02 at 1:59pm
I read a while back that Kane wants to keep his mask for the rest of his career. Sadly, I also read in the last few days that O.G. Ekmo of the Island Boys broke his leg recently, which should push back their WWF TV debut (and any hopes of revitalizing the tag team division) by another 6 weeks or so.
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post #190 of 3869
5/5/02 at 12:06pm
Looks like "WWF" is dead; it is now "WWE" for World Wrestling Entertainment. The website has the new logo but there is no "E" in it. They could have easily added a line to the "F."

~T
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post #191 of 3869
5/5/02 at 12:29pm
WWE just doesn't quite have the ring to it
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post #192 of 3869
5/5/02 at 12:55pm
from pwtorch.com:
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The WWF appears to be a brand that in the process of being completely phased out in favor of World Wrestling Entertainment.

Recently the World Wrestling Federation has registered for trademarks for World Wrestling Entertainment. Entering WWE.com takes you to WWF.com.

On its website, references to WWE are replacing references to WWF. The main headline shows WWE.com instead of WWF.com. The phone number to call in the internet talk show Byte This has changed to 1-888-LIVEWWE.

As a result of losing a court case in England over use of the WWF initials conflicting with the World Wildlife Fund, the WWF has been forced to change its brand name. The changeover is happening rapidly.

There are still graphics that show the old WWF scratch logo, but the new scratch logo eliminates the "F."

All indications are that the changeover is worldwide in nature, and not just directed as the overseas audience. Because the World Wide Web is international in scope, there is no way to limit use of the WWF initials to North America as previously agreed to with the World Wildlife Fund.

The changeover is happening without any major announcements by the organization.



This battle has been going on for a while, and I thought they were going to stick to WWFE... but I guess not.
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post #193 of 3869
5/5/02 at 2:00pm
Yep, "WWE" doesn't sound good right now. It will be strange hearing J.R. tomorrow calling Hulk Hogan the "WWE champion" or Steve Austin as the "toughest SOB in the WWE."

~T
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post #194 of 3869
5/5/02 at 9:49pm
This is the worst name change since Prince went to that unpronouncable symbol. Well, ok, it's not that bad. Hey, I hear WCW is available.
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post #195 of 3869
5/6/02 at 2:04pm
WHAT?!

After being in business since I was in the single digits, the WWF has to change its name because of a legal dispute? With a wildlife organization? I have absolutely nothing against the Fund, but honestly - were the masses in confusion over which was which, or did the wildlife group suddenly feel their namesake was being threatened... after almost twenty years.

Sounds awfully convenient to me. Who's getting more press? More notoriety? Bring out the lawyers and we'll hash this one out.

Fine, fine. It's business, yeah I know. But after so many years, WWF switches to another name, with ZERO announcement. What - they thought I wouldn't notice tonight? "Hiya honey, I'm just watching the um.. WW... uh, you know that wrestling show I always watch." This isn't a story line, it's the name of your company. Wow, some legacy. Some nod to history.

EDIT: Okay, there was an announcement - the press release. But if I hadn't come to the HTF (Ron, do those initials belong to anyone else?), I would have been flat out, slack-jawed stunned somewhere around nine o'clock tonight.

Ah, no matter. It'll be the good old WWF to me no matter what diluted, amusement park name they decide to give it.

WW-EH...

-Gary
(longing for the good old days)
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post #196 of 3869
5/6/02 at 6:07pm
lol... this is now the official WWE(tm) thread.


... And just to make sure that Lilian Garcia got it, the WWE Hardcore Championship has changed hands about 3...4...5...6 times in the past few minutes...
She's annoucing it again... and the title is back to Stevie Richards... so all that was to make Lilian say WWE a bunch of times....
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post #197 of 3869
5/6/02 at 6:23pm
Well, I stand corrected on one point.

The show opened with a vignette of a woman shearing the F off of a bush shaped like the the old logo (and then setting it on fire to get that "twiggy" look). So they have acknowledged it, complete with new slogan - "get the F out" (which I think has been mentioned already).

J.R. had to correct himself early in the show, he almost said "federation" and then backtracked. Speaking of backtracking, I zipped through the WWE web site, and if you go through the Backlash section, everything has been altered to WWE, even the wallpapers.

It's like a bizarre Wonderland.

-g
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post #198 of 3869
5/6/02 at 9:53pm
I hear that Bill Goldberg recently bought out, or has had bought out by another party, the last year of his contract with Time Warner. Perhaps his arrival in the WWF is imminent? Err.. the WWE, Dammit!

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post #199 of 3869
5/7/02 at 9:28am
I don't like the 24-hour rule of the hardcore match, but I have to say that it was a creative way for them to get the new name across.

It seems the only reason they didn't extend the "F" to form an "E" in the new logo was to have that "Get the F Out" slogan.

Do you guys realize that essentially all of the famous wrestling promotions in the U.S. are now gone (in terms of name)?

I think Goldberg should go to another promotion like WWA to help create a better alternative to WWE.

As for Raw, the show wasn't very good. The Hogan and UT segment was awful (even if the bike didn't fail) and the main event was too.

~T
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post #200 of 3869
5/7/02 at 11:10am
Observations...

- The 24 hour hardcore rule has become what GTV was, a device that was part of an old storyline that is still used when they need a creative boost. Last night was no different, only the stream of candidates hinted at somebody new making their debut. In the end, it'll be Buh Buh and Trish at Judgement Day.

- I really felt bad for Hogan while he was trying to get the motorcycle to start again, only to stall halfway up the ramp. Truly a cringe moment. Maybe the bike knew what was in store for it.

- J.R. wouldn't let the King say "WWF", but still had it embroidered on his shirt. Heh.

-g
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post #201 of 3869
5/7/02 at 3:38pm
Good grief, that Hogan/Taker segment was awful. There are just no words.

The WWE (ugh) needs to get their act together...but how?!

Any suggestions?
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post #202 of 3869
5/7/02 at 11:46pm
It was reported earlier that the wwF has fired Scott Hall. It was said that he showed up drunk for their tour of England and was drunk at raw monday night. Too bad he couldn't keep straight. The NWO didn't last long, they came in as Hogan, Hall, and Nash and now all 3 are gone. Hogan going back to the red and yellow, Nash hurt, and Hall fired.
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post #203 of 3869
5/7/02 at 11:56pm
Yep, Hall is officially gone. It's too bad, as he is a genuinely nice guy in real life, and was never as self-centered as his buddies Nash, Waltman, Michaels, or HHH.
Here's hoping maybe some day he gets his path straight, and
I'll be praying for his kids, as he has sole custody of them. In the case his career is over (seems very likely), here's a toast (maybe a bad word choice) for a guy who brought me a lot of entertainment from age 12 to now.
Say goodbye to the bad guy.
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post #204 of 3869
5/8/02 at 9:02am
Add Curt Hennig as another wrestler who has just been released. I'm glad to see him go because WWF was totally misusing him.

~T
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post #205 of 3869
5/8/02 at 9:30am
I was reading a couple of Internet WWF... er, WWE sites about Hall and Hennig. This will have to be the end of Hall's top tier wrestling career.

I also read that Golddust is in hot water, but not to the degree that he'll get tossed. And whatever happened between Bradshaw and Michael Hayes must have been a sight to see (somebody shaves Hayes' hair off when he was asleep so he went nuclear. Those wacky wrestlers.)

And are you ready for this?

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LONDON, England, May 7 /CNW/ - News that the World Wrestling Federation Entertainment Inc. have changed their name and logo in light of recent court action has been received with surprise by WWF, the conservation organization. This unilateral move comes when an application to appeal to the House of Lords by the Wrestlers'is still pending. Yesterday the World Wrestling Federation announced that it was changing its name to World
Wrestling Entertainment, Inc., as well as altering its scratch logo and website domain name - both of which
were subject to the case brought by WWF. Paul Steele, Chief Operating Officer for WWF International said:
"The fact that the Wrestlers have taken this action is an acknowledgement that the proposed appeal has little
chance of success. However WWF was expecting that they would opt for a more distinct name change that
would put 'clear water' between our two organizations, to quote one of the judges in the recent court action.
We are still considering the implications of this move as the earth's natural environment relies on the public's
recognition and trust of a respected, global conservation organization. The Federation's breaches of the 1994
Agreement diluted and tarnished WWF's identity and the messages associated with it. Unfortunately, WWF's
repeated requests all failed to convince the Federation to abide by the Agreement that it freely negotiated and
signed, and WWF was forced to bring the action.

Source: 1wrestling.com

"Clear water"? Whatever Vince names the company, about a half a gazillion wrestling fans are still going to refer to it as the WWF.

-g
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post #206 of 3869
5/8/02 at 11:44am
It's now being reported that Hennig instigated a fight with Brock Lesnar. Triple H then tried to break it up, and all three hit the emergency exit door and almost forced it open.

~T
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post #207 of 3869
5/8/02 at 1:17pm
Well, Hennig has had alcohol issues in the past (a couple years back he was on Nitro TOTALLY bombed out of his gourd, which also led to disciplinary action...though not termination). He HAS had his talents totally wasted by both WCW and the WWF...er, WWE over the last few years.
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post #208 of 3869
5/8/02 at 2:28pm
I know that we're talking about a couple of incidents, but it seems as thought the WWF (I'm still going to call it that because I'm tired of correcting myself) is losing ground in spades. Lots of injuries (Lita, Nash), talent releases, and the tepid response to the roster split is hurting the Fed. Big time.

I keep reading about decisions made back stage that while they take advantage of the pops, it causes problems with the roster. Hulk going straight to the top is one of those double edge swords; he comes in as a baddie, gains the fans cheers and suddenly he bypasses two year's worth of story lines to become champ.

I liked it, but I can also see why a lot of the roster is steamed. It seems like the NWO came in, got the red carpet with major pushes, and now they're gone or on the injury list. There were big changes made to accommodate them, and now the vacuum is leaving the Fed grasping for easy fixes.

Hennig picks a fight with Lesnar. D'Oh!

-g
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post #209 of 3869
5/8/02 at 4:00pm
I don't think NWO got that huge of a push. They made an early impact like many others coming into WWF and have been pushed down the ladder.

The split has been good for the wrestlers and storylines, but they haven't done a good enough job of distingushing the two brands. I think having a world champion for each show would help a lot. Also, I don't think it's too late to bring back WCW.

I think Hennig is a legit tough guy. He ran into Steven Segal at an airport years ago. Segal thought he could take on Hennig, but Hennig ended up beating up Segal.

~T
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post #210 of 3869
5/9/02 at 5:49am
I agree that making more of a distinction between the two shows would help. I think a big part of this could be excluding one of the shows from the PPV's every other time. This would give them two months to build storylines, instead of just 1. I also think they need to concentrate more on some of the younger wrestlers. As much as I like some of the old-timers, they really aren't giving any of the new guys a push.

Something else I think would help would be more of a focus on the tag team and cruiserweight divisions. In the cruiserweight division, you've basically got Tajiri & Kidman. Nobody else is really getting any attention, or even being mentioned as cruiserweights. One match a week will not develop any interest in the division. In the tag team division, they're now basically down to Billy & Chuck, and that's it. You could mention the Hardys, but Matt's been pretty much off the air since Lita's injury, and two teams still doesn't make a "division."

I like the idea of bringing back the WCW. With the disentegration of the NWO, now would be the prime time to do so. Flair has been set up as the bad guy, and with a little tweaking, he could easily make a quick name change, reform the 4 Horsemen, and they could try to do it right this time. It would be a great way to further differentiate between the "brands," and could lead to some great storylines.
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