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post #151 of 3869
3/20/02 at 4:05pm
I loved when Hogan went old-style on The Rock (hulking up) complete with the big boot and leg drop...that was great!
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post #152 of 3869
3/21/02 at 2:36pm
The "Hulking Up" got me so excited that I stood up and spilled my drink all over my girlfriend's head.
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post #153 of 3869
3/21/02 at 7:07pm
haha stephen!

Man, I love Hogan so much. The ol' boot drop and big boots had me dying!
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post #154 of 3869
3/23/02 at 4:40pm
Thread Starter 
For God's sake why (why?) is X-Pac back? He is one of my mosted hated wrestlers (and not in the good way).

I am looking forward to the draft on Monday, though...

mike.
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post #155 of 3869
3/23/02 at 5:17pm
I to was also thinking uhhh about X-pac. I don't hate or like the guy but just wasn't really all that excited to see him come back. At least the draft is gonna be sweet.
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post #156 of 3869
3/23/02 at 5:58pm
The only reason X-Pac is around is because he's buddies with Hall and Nash.

Peter
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post #157 of 3869
3/25/02 at 9:57am
Any ideas of anyone else who may/could join the NWO? How about the return of Savage?
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post #158 of 3869
3/25/02 at 12:56pm
Thread Starter 
I'd like to see Triple H join up with the nWo. He's the heel ya love to hate! As soon as the whole Jericho/Steph thing is finally over, it'd be nice to see Triple H heading up the nWo, and wreaking havoc like the old DX days.

mike.
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post #159 of 3869
3/25/02 at 2:14pm
No one wants Savage wrestling any more. He's hurting people protecting his knees.

I'd say Shawn Michaels is a likely canidate.
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post #160 of 3869
3/25/02 at 3:13pm
Thread Starter 
Any random guesses as to who is going where after the draft tonight? I would think that Rock/Hogan may stay on the same night (but, possibly not) and that it would be almost a lock to have Rock/Austin on different nights. I guess we'll see in a few hours...

mike.
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post #161 of 3869
3/25/02 at 3:25pm
As it stood late last week, the projected lineups were:

Flair's RAW group will include the following talent:

-Steve Austin
-Chris Jericho
-Kevin Nash
-Scott Hall
-Kane
-Rob Van Dam
-The Hardy Boyz
-Lita
-The Big Show
-X-Pac
-William Regal
-Billy & Chuck
-Bradshaw

That leaves the following names as the top stars for Vince McMahon's Smackdown group:

-Hulk Hogan
-The Rock
-Kurt Angle
-The Undertaker
-Edge
-Booker T.

HHH and Jazz would be able to jump between shows at will because of their Titles.

Many WWF star swho have been off TV for for a while are expected to return tonight on RAW and be drafted to either the RAW or Smackdown rosters. Some expected to return tonight include Billy Kidman, Tommy Dreamer, Justin Credible, D-Lo Brown, Raven, Mark Henry, Shawn Stasiak, and Hugh Morrus among others. (411wrestling.com)

And as its stands right now, with two and a half hours before the show, Austin is still not there. He is apparently REALLY unhappy with the WWF's direction and sat out both shows last week. Not a good sign. If Austin doesn't show, this could make a major problem for their plans as it stands now.

Whatever happens, tonight will be interesting.
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post #162 of 3869
3/25/02 at 7:47pm
[size=]The top 20 have been finalized:


No. 1 - SmackDown! - The Rock
No. 2 - RAW - Undertaker
No. 3 - SmackDown! - Kurt Angle
No. 4 - RAW - nWo
No. 5 - SmackDown! - Chris Benoit
No. 6 - RAW - Kane
No. 7 - SmackDown! - Hollywood Hulk Hogan
No. 8 - RAW - Rob Van Dam
No. 9 - SmackDown! - Billy & Chuck
No. 10 - RAW - Booker T
No. 11 - SmackDown! - Edge
No. 12 - RAW - Big Show
No. 13 - SmackDown! - Rikishi
No. 14 - RAW - Bubba Ray Dudley
No. 15 - SmackDown! - D-Von Dudley
No. 16 - RAW - Brock Lesnar
No. 17 - SmackDown! - Mark Henry
No. 18 - RAW - William Regal
No. 19 - SmackDown! - Maven
No. 20 - RAW - Lita

The next 20 lottery picks will be availble from http://www.wwfowners.com/draft/index.html after the show ends...[/size]
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post #163 of 3869
3/25/02 at 8:20pm
Well, I have tickets to RAW in two weeks here in Phoenix. I was really excited to go, but now...well, unless they change things with "trades" or Steve Austin actually decides to come back and ends up on RAW, I don't know if I'm going. I mean seriously, Undertaker, Hall, Nash, X-Pac, Kane, Rob Van Dam, Booker T, Big Show, Bubba Ray Dudley (the Dudley's will bomb horribly as singles), Brock Lesnar, William Regal and Lita as the top 10 picks. Well, there are TWO freakin' people in the list I give a damn about at this stage of their careers. And out of that list are 5 of the biggest wastes of space in the WWF (Undertaker, Hall, Nash, Kane and Big Show).
It certainly looks the way it stands as though Smackdown! will be the show to watch.
Edit: Oh goody, add four more wrestlers I don't give a damn about to RAW: Bradshaw, Steven Richards (!), Matt Hardy and Raven. Whoopdee-freaking-doo.
Smackdown! meanwhile gets Kidman, Tajiri, Jericho and Ivory. I love all of those but Ivory. Are they intentionally trying to bury RAW?
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post #164 of 3869
3/25/02 at 8:41pm
And of course the only show we get here in St. Louis is Raw
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post #165 of 3869
3/25/02 at 8:52pm
[gets to go to the Smackdown in Tucson April 9th}
I'm lovin the picks myself.
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post #166 of 3869
3/25/02 at 9:45pm
Thread Starter 
Well, the full results are in.

On Ric Flair's WWF Raw (in the order they were picked):[list=1][*]Undertaker[*]nWo[*]Kane[*]Rob Van Dam[*]Booker T[*]Big Show[*]Bubba Ray Dudley[*]Brock Lesnar[*]William Regal[*]Lita[*]Bradshaw[*]Steven Richards[*]Matt Hardy[*]Raven[*]Jeff Hardy[*]Mr. Perfect[*]Spike Dudley[*]D'Lo Brown[*]Shawn Stasiak[*]Terri[*]Jacqueline[*]Goldust[*]Trish Stratus[*]Justin Credible[*]Big Boss Man[*]Tommy Dreamer[*]Crash[*]Mighty Molly[/list=1]

And on Vince McMahon's WWF Smackdown (in the order they were picked):[list=1][*]The Rock[*]Kurt Angle[*]Chris Benoit[*]Hollywood Hulk Hogan[*]Billy & Chuck[*]Edge[*]Rikishi[*]D-Von Dudley[*]Mark Henry[*]Maven[*]Billy Kidman[*]Tajiri[*]Chris Jericho[*]Ivory[*]Albert[*]The Hurricane[*]Al Snow[*]Lance Storm[*]DDP[*]Torrie Wilson[*]Scottie 2 Hotty[*]Stacy Keibler[*]Christian[*]Test[*]Faarooq[*]Tazz[*]Hardcore Holly[*]The Big Valbowski[*]Perry Saturn[/list=1]

Well, what can I say? Smackdown looks mighty impressive, while Raw needs some work, but has vast possibilities if pulled off correctly. Splitting up the Dudleys and The APA is harsh, especially with the former. I guess pairing one member of each tag team in each 'brand' would be interesting. Although, D'Lo and Bubba would be interesting (although maybe too similar to Bubba and D'Von). I don't think there's any way the Dudleys can survive in singles careers.

It's nice to have the nWo out of Hogan and The Rock's hair for a while. It's time to develop other alliances/enemies for each. And it'll be nice to see some more classic Benoit/Jericho matches in the future (finally returning Y2J into the mid-class where he belongs and not in the heavyweight fray). There's a lot of potential with the Smackdown brand.

As far as Raw goes, Kane vs. nWo is already boring me (in fact, everything Kane ever does, aside from pairing with the Undertaker, bores me). It'll be nice to see Tommy Dreamer back in action, along with Justin Credible. And finally Raven's back! Taker as the headliner? I think not. The highlights of Raw's roster have to be RVD and the Hardy's (w/Lita). The Hardy's are just going to need some good teams to fight in the future (finally tossing aside the usual Edge/Christian,Dudleys,etc.). RVD could have some hellasweet matches with some of the other ECW transfers. Still, to make Mondays a must watch, Stone Cold is going to have to stick to Raw. Going on Smackdown would make one larger-than-life superstar too many.

It's looking like the next weeks/months are shaping up to be very exciting...

mike.
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post #167 of 3869
3/25/02 at 9:49pm
The site has been getting hammered, took a while to refresh the page. Here's the rest:

No. 21 - SmackDown! - Billy Kidman
No. 22 - RAW - Bradshaw
No. 23 - SmackDown! - Tajiri
No. 24 - RAW - Steven Richards
No. 25 - SmackDown! - Chris Jericho
No. 26 - RAW - Matt Hardy
No. 27 - SmackDown! - Ivory
No. 28 - RAW - Raven
No. 29 - SmackDown! - Albert
No. 30 - RAW - Jeff Hardy
No. 31 - SmackDown! - The Hurricane
No. 32 - RAW - Mr. Perfect
No. 33 - SmackDown! - Al Snow
No. 34 - RAW - Spike Dudley
No. 35 - SmackDown! - Lance Storm
No. 36 - RAW - D'Lo Brown
No. 37 - SmackDown! - DDP
No. 38 - RAW - Shawn Stasiak
No. 39 - SmackDown! - Torrie Wilson
No. 40 - RAW - Terri
No. 41 - SmackDown! - Scotty 2 Hotty
No. 42 - RAW - Jacqueline
No. 43 - SmackDown! - Stacy Keibler
No. 44 - RAW - Goldust
No. 45 - SmackDown! - Christian
No. 46 - RAW - Trish Stratus
No. 47 - SmackDown! - Test
No. 48 - RAW - Justin Credible
No. 49 - SmackDown! - Faarooq
No. 50 - RAW - Big Boss Man
No. 51 - SmackDown! - Tazz
No. 52 - RAW - Tommy Dreamer
No. 53 - SmackDown! - Hardcore Holly
No. 54 - RAW - Crash
No. 55 - SmackDown! - The Big Valbowski
No. 56 - RAW - Mighty Molly
No. 57 - SmackDown! - Perry Saturn

Okay, so this sets up at least two possible trades... The Dudleys and the aPa have been split up...
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post #168 of 3869
3/26/02 at 10:10am
ok, this whole thing just doesnt seem feasible... what happens if/when a title holder loses their belt? where will they go? i just dont see this lasting very long... it seems they are limiting themselves by arranging the roster like this...
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post #169 of 3869
3/26/02 at 12:48pm
I didn't like the way the draft was handled. It came across looking like an angle when I thought it should be more serious and real. WWF had a rare opportunity to deliver a special show that is the start of a huge venture for them but they blew it.

WWF needs to do everything possible to differentiate the two programs, or else each show will just feature a scaled-down roster which will turn away viewers. Cruiserweights should all be on one show if they plan to follow through with the rumored cruiserweight division, there simply aren't enough on each roster. Likewise, I think they should have like the hardcore division on the other show. I hear that both shows will be written by the same people. They can't do a good job writing for one roster, what makes Vince McMahon think they can write for two sets of wrestlers?

I know it will take weeks to see how well the split works and for adjustments to be made. Right now, it looks like it will fail.

It was pretty cool to see Chris Benoit be a third pick, although the order of the picks were done for entertainment.

~T
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post #170 of 3869
3/27/02 at 8:49am
Also how will this effect shows like Excess or Sunday Night Heat? Will these shows also get a makeover?
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post #171 of 3869
4/1/02 at 9:23pm
Thread Starter 
Excellent Raw tonight. Love the new look and theme. It's great to see Latino Heat back - he should have some good matches with RVD. Finally, the 'undisuted' title is unified into one belt - it's about damn time. Lots of energy from all involved and a great two and 1/6 hours overall.

mike.

And oh yeah, Stone Cold is officially on Raw
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post #172 of 3869
4/1/02 at 9:42pm
I was dying when Stone Cold played that April Fool's joke on McMahon! And Big Boss Man!! what what! I love the WWF again.
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post #173 of 3869
4/2/02 at 7:13am
I like the new Raw. Cool that Latino Heat's back. The Big Boss Man and Mr. Perfect were off their mark last night, though. Or maybe it was Matt and Jeff. Lots of little misses and such. Nothing major, I guess I've been watching wrestling for too long . And who's that monster that keeps beating everyone up with Paul Haymen??? Enough with the run-ins, give the man a match already! It's also cool that Molly lost that side-kick get-up. That got real stale real fast. Looks like she's about to get a push. Now all we have to do is wait `till Thursday and see what SmackDown will be like ...



Freddy C.
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post #174 of 3869
4/2/02 at 9:05am
I like the new look of Raw except for those things on the side of the Titantron. If they could give Raw a different tint than Smackdown, I think that could be very effective in making us think they are two different brands.

It was great to see Eddy back. He and RVD should put on some great matches. It's too bad most of the good opponents are on Smackdown.

How great was Undertaker's line, "Say what if you sleep with your sister"?

The new title looks great but it's too small.

~T
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post #175 of 3869
4/3/02 at 4:17am
I did noticed that there were more wrestling as in that the matches went longer, for example, the RVD - Booker T match. With the guidance from Paul Heyman and Rick Flair, it could be that we'd see more wrestling or longer matches. Remember Paul Heyman's scripted quibble to Vince that wrestling was a dirty word for him at the expense of sports entertainment?

Eddie Guerrero was scheduled for an Australian tour in April (this week) with the WWA. With his appearance on the new look Raw, chances are he'll be a no show.

Anyone know if the new Smackdown will be a live show or taped?
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post #176 of 3869
4/3/02 at 8:08am
"Death to sports entertainment!" - Heh.

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Anyone know if the new Smackdown will be a live show or taped?

From the looks of the person who sent a spoiler review into slashwrestling.com, it looks like it is, at least for now...

Aaron Thomas
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post #177 of 3869
4/3/02 at 8:40am
I almost vomited when I read the spoiler report for Smackdown! Don't read the following if you don't want to know yet!

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Vince comes out and says that since he won the coin flip for first draft pick, he also gets to make the first title match. So, later in the show he says that Triple H will take on...Hollywood Hulk Hogan. Oh, no. Also, Hogan apparently comes out in the red and yellow. I don't mind Hogan having his little farewell tour, but a freakin' title shot? Hopefully this leads to Triple H turning heel and joining the nWo, who comes down to beat down Hogan at the PPV.
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post #178 of 3869
4/6/02 at 9:54am
Great news, at least as far as I'm concerned! According to the Ross Report:

Shelton Benjamin, Rob Conway, Nick Dinsmore, Doug Basham, Jamie Knoble, Shannon Moore, Steve Bradley and the Island Boys will be seen on WWF TV shortly.

I've been waiting to see the Island Boys make it to WWF TV for some time now. They're a couple of massive Samoans (Kimo & Ekmo), who can move much better than most big men. They should help to liven up the comatose Tag Team division, which I believe is officially down to just two teams now.

As for the others, the only names I readily recognize are Jamie Knoble and Shannon Moore. While I despised them in WCW, they actually look much better now in the HWA. Add in the fact that they're just waiting for Rey Mysterio Jr. to return his written contract, and it seems liek the WWF is actually committing to the Cruiserweights.
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post #179 of 3869
4/11/02 at 2:59pm

Will we see Kane (WWF) unmasked?

Anyone caught RAW? X-pac stole Kane's mask and he's currently unmasked at this point but we don't get to see it. Earlier in the night, he said to Terri in an interview that he's not ashame to be a freak. Is this a setup for him to return unmasked or is he coming back with a different mask? What's the scoup on it?

I like to see him come back a bit different masked or unmasked. Though I like the Big Red Machine as he is, he's not gaining any popularity, maybe a change is in order. Afterall, he's talking a lot more now and even can immitate The Rock and Hogan.
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post #180 of 3869
4/11/02 at 5:04pm
" Oh NO! What's X-pac doing?.... He's taking Kane's mask off! OH THE FACE THE HIDEOUS FACE...hey,wait a sec...... IT'S ISAAC YANK'EM.I was wondering where the hell he went."
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