This is BEYOND DISGUSTING! - Page 2

Adam seems to share and nicely sum up my feelings on the matter. I would like to address this though...

Yes and I can easily say that drinking donkey urine and semen is wrong and I think most people in the world agree with that. However, society isn't crumbling because some guy is doing it on TV. There's always been and there always will be dopes who will do anything for money or attention. The amount of our exposure to media and need to fill all those outlets is all that has really changed. And I doubt that anyone who knows the guy that drank donkey urine and semen are going to be too kind to him. He will, rightfully, have to live that down every day for the rest of his life. 15 or 20 years from now, anyone who knows the guy will still be saying "That's the guy who drank donkey urine and semen on TV" to whoever they're with.


As an aside, if someone had told me yesterday morning, how many times I would type the words "donkey urine and semen" in the next day, I wouldn't have believed them.

An update on the program in question:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/30/fear-factory-donkey-semen-episode-killed_n_1240735.html

What a shock! I'll try to start a prediction streak and say that Fear Factor's ratings will be up tonight because people will have read that the stunt is on. It's almost like NBC planned to do it this way all along.


While you got what you wanted, NBC just used people like you to get free publicity for the show. That doesn't seem like a win to me.

EDIT: Looking at ratings, I believe that Fear Factor last ran on January 10 and had 5.53 million viewers. When the ratings for tonight's episode come out tomorrow, I would be surprised if they're not much higher than that.

Almost?!?

 

I don't think there was a chance in hell it would actually air.  It was shot by the producers to drum up publicity.

 

It was not made clear of they pulled the entire episode or just the segment with the offending fluids.  I assume the latter and the donkey fluids were shot to be eventually edited out.

That was a sarcastic 'almost'. I said on the previous page that they didn't actually intend to air it and just wanted the free press.

Yep. Censorship can be quite the minefield to navigate.

I don't really care if NBC shows the episode or not, I would not be watching it. As long as they have the choice to show it or not, that's fine with me.

Just a note of warning here - I went to the link posted on the cancellation of this show - and they have a picture of one of the contestants chugging from a beer mug...something I didn't want to see...

Agreed. Acting like a smug, censorious troglodyte and attempting to impose your tastes on other people who don't even care much about it usually leads to us punching you right in the taint.

So you're all butthurt and outraged. Doesn't mean the rest of us are, or that we should potentially be prevented from watching it if we want to.

If you really want to aid society, Regulus, volunteer at a soup kitchen or do something to help alleviate poverty in this country. It seems like there's much bigger fish to fry out there in the world than this trifle of a "cause."

Seriously that is horrific.

The really gross part is that those shirts were white when they started.

 

Is there a urine based equivalent to the milk mustache?

That's a load of bullshit. Suggesting that tasteless crap on broadcast TV should be saved for after 9 pm is not described by any of the tasteless crap in your post. How old are you?

TonyD, was it really necessary to post that image here?

I'm going with "pee goatee." Anyone got better?

I felt it was

What is seen in that picture?
I see someone drinking an unknown substance.
Through the power of expectation one can ascertain that they arent drinking chocolate milk but so what, is it so awful that you can't look at it?

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This one time, on NCIS, one of the most-watched dramas in history, I saw someone kill another human being by shooting them in the chest multiple times.

But did he drink he dead guys blood because that would have been reprehensible.

No, but afterward, he *smiled.*

Um...because I was backing Adam up, there?

He already covered both the "tasteless-crap-after-9 P.M." and the "overbearing, self-appointed, would-be-Donald-Wildmon-censor" bases in his post. Which is why I quoted it as the connecting reference-point for my own post.

I think you're slightly misinterpreting it. I was agreeing with him 110 percent. And really, I hardly consider any of I what wrote to be "tasteless" in this day and age. (The "donkey-semen" threshold was already passed a full page-and-a-half beforehand, after all.)
Edited by joshEH - 2/1/12 at 9:56pm

That's what they eat on the next episode.

^ OK, that's pretty funny.

I've never understood why some people have such an overwhelming zeal for "saving" others from themselves.

No you didn't. You saw one actor firing a prop gun and another actor pretending to die.

Neither you nor Adam addressed the point. Adam put up a strawman about trying to prevent anyone else from watching something (quite a stretch from saying some things should be saved for after 9 pm and for DVD) and you chimed in with name-calling and a bizarre crack about punching someone in the taint.

 

 

 

 

Perhaps it's because none of us exists in a vacuum and the person I become could very well have an effect on others. As valid as it is to think, "Who died and left you boss," I think it's equally valid to question whether things pumped into the public are a net benefit or detriment. It may be harmful to suggest I shouldn't have a choice available to me because you don't like it, but it may be equally harmful to ignore the fact that you can't continue to lower the bar on increasingly greater scales (network TV) and think it has no effect on society. Sure parents should raise their kids. But what about the parents across the street who don't? When Johnny becomes a complete butthole and decides to share himself with the world, is my ostrich imitation so enlightened then?

 

I'm all for live and let live, but there are limits. Reasonable people can disagree over what those limits should be (balancing several factors), but let's not act like the original poster is inherently deserving of ridicule. Instead, I'd simply say it doesn't meet my own personal outrage litmus test because it's mostly a mental image challenge. That's what "Fear Factor" is all about... trying to overcome a intensely adverse mental images ("fear"). Women drink semen all the time. If it's a question of cross-species, we drink cow (and goat) milk all the time (and yes, there are people up in arms about that too). The truth is, Fear Factor isn't going to let people do anything turly harmful to themselves because they don't want the liability or the stigma. It's like how they let roaches and/or snakes crawl over you, or challenge you to eat bugs. There's nothing inherently harmful about either. That leaves the sexual connection, and perhaps that's where the outrage comes from. I did see "beastiality" referred to. But at the end of the day, getting the donkey semen isn't significantly different from getting the cow's milk. It's just a matter of social norms.

 

I don't watch the show, but I did see it once way back when (before they had to come up with new and exciting ways to top themselves). Someone was walking a highwire. It kept thinking, "But they have you on a harness -- you CAN'T fall." I found it kind of interesting because to the average person, even with a harness, if you're high enough that's some scary stuff. After all, equipment can fail. Then again, these days that's just another date on The Bachelor.

 

It looked real to me, and it clearly only matters what I think.

 

In any event, it sensationalized violence, as the victim sputtered blood and writhed in agony for tens of seconds on screen.  The camera remained fixed on the victim then entire time, showcasing his suffering.

 

This episode was aired at 6 PM local time.  I've seen similar episodes of NCIS air in syndication during the day, when children are home, likely watching television.

Is there really a difference though? When you get down to it, someone actually drinking donkey semen and urine has as much effect on a viewer as someone pretending to shoot a guy because they're both presented in a realistic way.

Also, I still don't think that if this had aired that there would be any harm. Once again, I think the stunt is repellent and I think that NBC should have the decency to not air something that gross (not because they're not allowed to or because they've been strong armed by a censor group but because they choose to not air it) but even if it had aired, I can't imagine there being any impact.

Mikah,

 

I have been contemplating posting in this thread since it started.  Thanks for such an eloquent, even-handed post - I could not have written one better.  At some point "anything goes" bites even the most ardent free speech advocacy in the ass.  Your analogy regarding kids behavior and parenting is apt - there is a family in my neighborhood that exemplifies this and the entire rest of the neighborhood is worse off for it.

 

Chris