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Paramount to release "Hondo" on Blu-ray in June - No 3D?

post #1 of 27
1/22/12 at 5:54pm
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So Paramount has officially announced that Hondo comes to Blu-ray on June 5th. This would have been the perfect opportunity to introduce a 50's era 3D movie on Blu-ray 3D, yet apparently it's just going to be 2D. What a missed opportunity. I'd love to see films like this where the 3D photography gave added depth to the image without the gimmicks.
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post #2 of 27
1/22/12 at 5:57pm
Seconded.
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post #3 of 27
1/22/12 at 6:03pm
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Hondo is one of the top 5 stereoscopic films ever made. The stereopsis is state-of-the-art, then or now. It is absolute madness in this day and age to release a 3-D film flat when the technology to see it in 3-D is everywhere. The least they could do is offer consumers a 3-D option on the menu. Perhaps no other classic 3-D film could usher in the acceptance of the 3-D medium in home video more. Paramount could start something, instead of keeping it status quo.

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post #4 of 27
1/22/12 at 6:24pm
I wholeheartedly agree. The quality of the stereoscopic cinematography on HONDO is superb.

Plus, it was intended for 1.75 widescreen and should not be released in 1.37.
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post #5 of 27
1/22/12 at 6:27pm

As restored elements have already been produced, there is no heavy lifting here.

 

Really not even worth discussing without 3D.

 

RAH

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post #6 of 27
1/22/12 at 7:17pm

Add my name to the chorus of people who think it foolhardy indeed to not offer a 3D option for this film.

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post #7 of 27
1/22/12 at 7:24pm

Talk about a missed, totally bungled opportunity.  

Infuriating.  We've been waiting for catalog 3Ds we know and love, AND WILL BUY ... for how long?

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post #8 of 27
1/22/12 at 10:40pm
Looks like Warner Home Video is the only company that is going to be attempting 3-D Blu-rays of catalog titles. Paramount, apparently, doesn't see a payoff in a 3D option in its classics. Indeed a lost opportunity.
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post #9 of 27
1/22/12 at 11:55pm

Maybe since the John Wayne Estate owns the title, Paramount does not have the authority to release the 3D version.  Or the Wayne Estate does no wish to pay for a transfer.  The late Michael Wayne was the one oversaw the work of the titles, it was his widow and Patrick Wayne that made the deal with Paramount.  Just a thought. 

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post #10 of 27
1/23/12 at 7:54am
The release of Hondo (and other 50's 3D films) would probably drive me to actually have an interest in 3D television. Too bad they let this opportunity go by.
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post #11 of 27
1/23/12 at 9:02am
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Originally Posted by David_B_K View Post

The release of Hondo (and other 50's 3D films) would probably drive me to actually have an interest in 3D television. Too bad they let this opportunity go by.


 We've been told that Warners has plans to release House of Wax and Dial'M' for Murder this year in 3D. Fingers crossed that this happens and is successful.

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post #12 of 27
1/23/12 at 10:29am
If any representatives of Paramount were to read this, know I would have blind-purchased this title had 3D been an option. Now I'm not so inclined.
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post #13 of 27
1/23/12 at 12:56pm
Originally Posted by Craig_Ehr View Post

If any representatives of Paramount were to read this, know I would have blind-purchased this title had 3D been an option. Now I'm not so inclined.


Same here.  No question.  It would have been an immediate buy.

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post #14 of 27
1/23/12 at 1:23pm

For me as well. Without 3D, probably a rental.

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post #15 of 27
1/23/12 at 1:30pm
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Originally Posted by MattH. View Post

For me as well. Without 3D, probably a rental.


Not for me, it's one of my favorite Duke films and I've never seen it in 3-D and that includes about 10-15 viewings.  I understand why others are upset about the non-3D and though I would prefer that too, it's not a dealbreaker for me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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post #16 of 27
1/23/12 at 2:46pm
HONDO was conceived and photographed for 3-D, widescreen and color. We now have the capability of seeing it that way for the first time since the original theatrical release.

Why settle for anything less?

Bob
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post #17 of 27
1/23/12 at 4:43pm
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Originally Posted by Bob Furmanek View Post

HONDO was conceived and photographed for 3-D, widescreen and color. We now have the capability of seeing it that way for the first time since the original theatrical release.
Why settle for anything less?
Bob

Exactly, Bob.

The Amazon listing doesn't say if it's widescreen or not, but I have to guess it's the same full-frame format as the DVD. Too bad: no 3-D, no correct aspect ratio - this one's a pass. Why support a sub-par effort?
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post #18 of 27
1/23/12 at 4:46pm
I'll probably pick this up when it gets on sale. It will still be an upgrade over the DVD and I haven't seen it in a long time.
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post #19 of 27
1/23/12 at 5:33pm
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Originally Posted by ahollis View Post

Maybe since the John Wayne Estate owns the title, Paramount does not have the authority to release the 3D version.  Or the Wayne Estate does not wish to pay for a transfer.  The late Michael Wayne was the one oversaw the work of the titles, it was his widow and Patrick Wayne that made the deal with Paramount.  Just a thought. 

You have a valid point.
Gretchen Wayne, widow of Michael Wayne, is in charge of HONDO. She is not technology-oriented. My impression from speaking with her at the Academy screening in 2007 is that she was mis-informed of the facts about 3-D films and about HONDO in particular by digital 3-D companies who were competing for a theatrical distribution 3-D contract. It could have been screened in double-interlock at the Academy and at the DGA, instead she went with some unstable digital conversion, the details of which were kept proprietary, but it involved active shutter glasses with a red bias. It looked good on the screen, however. Bob Furmanek was in attendance that night. Double-interlock 35mm would have been a lot easier, and better quality. She may still be hoping for a theatrical release, or she may still be confused about how to convert the film. The elements are fine. There's nothing to be confused about. She should just let Paramount do a 3-D transfer, if they are willing, and not worry about it.
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post #20 of 27
1/23/12 at 5:45pm
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You have a valid point.
Gretchen Wayne, widow of Michael Wayne, is in charge of HONDO. She is not technology-oriented. My impression from speaking with her at the Academy screening in 2007 is that she was mis-informed of the facts about 3-D films and about HONDO in particular by digital 3-D companies who were competing for a theatrical distribution 3-D contract. It could have been screened in double-interlock at the Academy and at the DGA, instead she went with some unstable digital conversion, the details of which were kept proprietary, but it involved active shutter glasses with a red bias. It looked good on the screen, however. Bob Furmanek was in attendance that night. Double-interlock 35mm would have been a lot easier, and better quality. She may still be hoping for a theatrical release, or she may still be confused about how to convert the film. The elements are fine. There's nothing to be confused about. She should just let Paramount do a 3-D transfer, if they are willing, and not worry about it.

I was there with you that evening, also.

 

A thrilling event.

 

RAH
 

 

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post #21 of 27
1/23/12 at 6:11pm
Richard is right. It looked good but could have looked much better.
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post #22 of 27
1/23/12 at 8:29pm
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Originally Posted by Bob Furmanek View Post

HONDO was conceived and photographed for 3-D, widescreen and color. We now have the capability of seeing it that way for the first time since the original theatrical release.
Why settle for anything less?
Bob



Because it is my monies to spend as I wish and until it's released in 3-D, it's the best I'm going to see it.  Again, I can understand if others feel differently and they can do as they wish.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Crawdaddy

 

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post #23 of 27
1/24/12 at 6:48am
I am a fan of this movie as well. It is disappointing that it is not in 3D; but I have yet to hear that it is a significant upgrade over the DVD. I'll wait for reviews.
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post #24 of 27
1/24/12 at 7:20am
Since I don't have 3-D equipment, i'll go ahead and get Hondo unless it gets bad reviews. But, I do agree that it should be released in 3-D for those who have the ability to watch it that way.
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post #25 of 27
1/24/12 at 9:33am
So I'm guessing Original Aspect Ratio is no longer a consideration? I remember the HTF war with the studios to stop MAR releases back in the early '00's. Ahh, memories. smile.gif
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post #26 of 27
1/24/12 at 9:58am
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Originally Posted by Peter Apruzzese View Post

So I'm guessing Original Aspect Ratio is no longer a consideration?


Is there an official statement somewhere that I'm failing to see? So far all I've seen is the title and the date. I've yet to see any specs for the release.

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post #27 of 27
1/24/12 at 12:50pm
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Is there an official statement somewhere that I'm failing to see? So far all I've seen is the title and the date. I've yet to see any specs for the release.



Nothing yet.

 

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