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Isn't it about time this site worked on the iPhone and iPad.

post #1 of 23
Thread Starter 
I don't curse, ever but Almost just did.

I typed a long response and after hitting the submit button the thing just sat there and the little spinner kept spinning and spinning.
Then the post disappeared.
Not only that but the browser frequently crashes while surfing HTF but usually when I'm typing up a response.

Also the nonsense of needing to Tap links twice to open them or needing to hold the button to get an "open" pop-up to appear.

There are others to list but in my anger these are what I remembered.

I really dislike so much about this place since it went to Hud.
post #2 of 23
Woops, I just posted the same thing. It's not just on mobile that it's eating posts but it's definitely worse.

So yeah, HTF sucks this week more than usual. I copy everything to the clipboard before hitting submit now. But it makes me not want to bother.

The tooltips are worse

And it keeps crashing on mobile.
post #3 of 23
Tapping links twice: for me it only happens when the iPad doesn't recognize the first tap.

Holding a tap to open context menu: how else would you do it. There's no right click.

Safari has crashed multiple times while trying to write this post.
post #4 of 23
Now that I think of it, the crashes only happen on the HTF.
post #5 of 23

I think I could nominate this thread title for the award of "Best Descriptive and Most Succinct & Plaintive HTF Thread Title of the Year."

 

Congratulations, Tony.  thumbsup.gif

 

I don't have a smartphone or iPad-type device...but everyone's constant complaints about trying to navigate the HTF via the various tools used with these devices certainly makes me feel blessed to be limited to my home laptop and work desktop. 

 

I also note the absence of a question mark in the title...  smiley_wink.gif

post #6 of 23
Thread Starter 
Yes Mike it was a statement more then a question.
The iPad has been around for three years and the iPhone is coming on five now I think.

The needing to tap twice isn't every link it mostly is the title header links that lead into the topic.
One tap brings p a little description or beginning of the first post in a yellow box, second tap opens the thread.
Or hold my stylus or finger on the title and a pop-up asking to open or open a new tab and maybe one or two additional options.

Also the option buttons at the bottom of posts such as the quote and edit buttons.


It's time Huddler and HTF, it's time.
post #7 of 23
they just don't care Tony, that much is obvious. Huddler at least doesn't and HTF has zero control over them so even if the HTF mods and owners do care 9and I suspect they do) they are at Huddler's mercy.
post #8 of 23
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam Posten View Post

they just don't care Tony, that much is obvious. Huddler at least doesn't and HTF has zero control over them so even if the HTF mods and owners do care 9and I suspect they do) they are at Huddler's mercy.

That's a shame. This is still a terrific site but it was great pre-HUD.
post #9 of 23

 

 

Quote:
they just don't care Tony, that much is obvious. Huddler at least doesn't and HTF has zero control over them so even if the HTF mods and owners do care 9and I suspect they do) they are at Huddler's mercy.
 

 

This is mostly true.  We do care and have been pushing 
Huddler for two years to adapt their software to mobile usage.
 
It has been a slow process of pulling teeth to get it accomplished
and we have only recently heard that Huddler is moving forward
on eventually getting it done.  
 
I wish we did have more control over something like this because
we do feel it is extremely important in an age where many people
access forums like this through their mobile device.
post #10 of 23
Thread Starter 
Thanks Ron. I know that you care maybe more than anyone.
post #11 of 23

The thing that strikes me strange about this entire situation is that Huddler usually strikes me as fancying itself as wanting to be "cutting edge" and to be moving the site in ways closer to social media rather than older discussion forum sensibilities.

 

So, you'd think portable devices would be uppermost on their minds. 

 

But, as Tony points out, these devices have been around for a loooooong time, many people are using them, and those HTF members that use them are frustrated due to a lack of compatibility with the Huddler software. 

 

It doesn't make sense. 

post #12 of 23

I believe the double tap behavior is due to the use of JavaScript to trigger actions like rollover or pop up behavior. This seems to be the defacto behavior for touch devices since there is no hover over option on a touch device. Not to defend Huddler's slowness, but this double tap behavior is true even on Facebook when accessed through the mobile browser.  It seems the solution for Facebook is to use the mobile app instead. Could HTF go that route as well by getting a mobile app?

post #13 of 23

That makes sense although a smarter device/browser should probably be able to interpret a held touch as a hover.  I noticed that's something the Nook Color's browser (in non-mobile mode) *tries* to do though it can be a bit tricky in practice depending on context.  Not sure what browser the NC actually uses, but it seems to id itself as Safari to websites.

 

And FWIW, I just tried using my wife's NC here to see, and I didn't run into any need for doubletaps, except as can happen (even on a regular desktop browser) when the current page has not completed loading yet.  Also tried quoting and starting a post reply -- though didn't bother to submit one -- w/out much issue other than the need to switch to "source" mode in order to consistently bring up the soft keyboard.  Not saying HTF experience on the NC would be all that great, but it's probably not too much worse than usual for me (other than the lack of hard keyboard and a need to use "source" mode).  Pretty much the same when I use Bitstream's Bolt browser on my Blackberry Tour (other than the obvious diffs in hardware).

 

I guess it all comes down to how well your browser handles the javascript and whatever else Huddler uses.  If iOS devices only come w/ what's considered a mobile browser that still doesn't handle javascript all that well, then it's debatable whether that's at least partially the fault of Apple rather than Huddler.  Of course, one would still think it wise for Huddler to get on the ball and support the growing crowd of iOS devices (among others) out there...

 

_Man_

 

post #14 of 23
At the very least it would be nice if the post width didn't expand so much once you get passed the ads on the right hand side. The non-super wide posts are perfectly readable on an iphone, but the super wide posts below the ads are pretty much unreadable due to the font size/inability to zoom in without cutting off the text.

The inconsistent width is also annoying on a desktop pc.

I've tried tapatalk, but can't stand the way it cuts off longer posts (sidetrack... when will mobile developers realize that mobile doesn't mean we want less content, we just want it in a readable format?) and the fact that there is no search function in the HTF tapatalk implementation (let alone the ability to search within a thread) makes it useless.
post #15 of 23
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Originally Posted by Mike Frezon View Post


It doesn't make sense. 

It does if you come at it from the angle I do: The Huddler guys are dumbasses who talk a good game and have failed, consistently, to deliver on any of the wonderful things that they promised.

Can you honestly tell me, as a user, that the HTF of today is better in any respect? Perhaps it is a better money maker for the owners and that was necessary to survive, but on the user end there is not one good thing I am happier about than when it was on the old system, and it sure doesn't beat any of the other board capabilities that are in use around the globe from a 'make users smile' perspective.

But, wikis! Whoopteefingdo.
And boy WE ARE NUMBER ONE as a destination for people who are looking for Acrophobia! /facepalm
post #16 of 23
Thread Starter 
I would have been all for a new company running this site if it was a company that knew a thing or two about running a web discussion forum.

Having said that I don't want this to turn into a bash Huddler topic. everyone knows how we feel about that.

Just make this place work already.

After years, there is still a need to continually tweak the thing and that is unacceptable and a shame.
post #17 of 23
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Originally Posted by TonyD View Post

I would have been all for a new company running this site if it was a company that knew a thing or two about running a web discussion forum.

Having said that I don't want this to turn into a bash Huddler topic. everyone knows how we feel about that.

Just make this place work already.

After years, there is still a need to continually tweak the thing and that is unacceptable and a shame.


We have recently been escalating the issues readers have been having on mobile and tablet platforms, especially the iPhone/Pad products.  We are just as frustrated as you and are aggressively working behind the scenes to improve that experience.  Hopefully I will have some more specifics to share soon.
 

 

post #18 of 23
I hope so Adam. I love HTF even if I don't show it. I have no love for the Huddler guys tho so i can only hope that that improves, because it's huddler dragging HTF down and not HTF propping Huddler up. Apologies if it doesn't seem I/we are sympathetic, we really are, and no I told you so's.... But as a user it's been a long haul and a lot of pain and a lot of lost friends who haven't ever come back. And the One and Done posters surely don't make up for that loss. In fact they make it worse by not even ever reading any of the replies to their post.
post #19 of 23
Thread Starter 
Anything yet?

Simply reading this topic crashed the iPad browser twice.
post #20 of 23
Yup. It seems to help if no other programs are in memory and only a single tab, it's like a memory leak caused by the fing ads and useless interactivity crap like the annoying popovers. HTF remains miserable on any apple mobile device.
post #21 of 23
Thread Starter 
Still a problem.
To create or reply to a post I have to type a couple of words, then hit submit before it crashes.
Seems to crash less when I do that.

The cashing thing only on HTF through Huddler does not make sense.

Why won't they fix it?
post #22 of 23
Cause they don't care and suck as a business?
post #23 of 23
Thread Starter 
The crashing has practically come to a stop. Has something been updated to fix this?
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