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post #1 of 74
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Announced last night. Looks like I missed the first cutoff for Amazon preorders but I intend to be among the first owners on Feb 16th when it launches worldwide.
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16.2 effective megapixel, full-frame sensor (16.6MP total)
10fps shooting with AF and AE, 11fps with focus and exposure locked, 24fps 2.5MP grabs
91,000 pixel sensor for metering, white balance, flash exposure, face detection and active d-lighting
ISO Range 100-12,800 (extendable from 50 – 204,800)
MultiCAM 3500FX Autofocus sensor works in lower light and with smaller apertures
Two sub-selector joystick/buttons for shooting orientation
1080p30 HD video at up to 24Mbps with uncompressed video output
New EN-EL18 battery (21.6Wh capacity, CIPA-rated at 2600 shots)
Twin card slots - one Compact Flash and one XQD

http://www.nikon.com/news/2012/0106_flagship_01.htm

http://nikonrumors.com/2012/01/05/the-official-announcement-nikon-d4.aspx/

http://www.joemcnally.com/blog/2012/01/06/shooting-the-d4/

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/nikon-d4/nikon-d4A.HTM

http://www.dpreview.com/articles/7799914638/nikon-d4-overview/

Brochure:
http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/dslr/d4/pdf/d4_12p.pdf

Sample images:
http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/dslr/d4/sample.htm

11fps:

Fro recap:

7 minute Video:

Announcement video:

This is likely to be the last 'true' DSLR I ever buy. I have taken my D300 around the world and put over 100k clicks on it, I will keep it and continue to use it as my backup along with my lightweight EVIL cams. But I have been dying for a REAL full frame camera to bring back full size eyepieces and the low light capability that are inherent to the form factor (along with the weight).

This is going to be the biggest gear purchase I have ever made, it will cost me more than anything I've ever bought except for cars and houses. I've been saving since the day the D700 was announced, knowing that eventually I wanted a FF cam, regardless of form factor. I'm a bit nervous about it (and I WILL get it insured against theft or loss!) but I am also so stoked to play.

Edit:
Engadget quick look:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/06/nikon-d4-hands-on-and-sample-images-video/

Unofficial 12k image:
http://www.alinpopescu.eu/blog/lansare-nikon-d4-in-romania/
Edited by Sam Posten - 1/6/12 at 10:11am
post #2 of 74
Once you go FF, you'll never go back to crop if you can help it. I just picked up a second FF body just so I can keep a prime on one FF, and a light-weight wide/mid zoom on the other FF.
post #3 of 74
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Did you buy two 5D Mk2s? That's pretty badass. You might like the double strap I use when shooting football:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/645448-REG/Black_Rapid_RSD_1BB_RS_DR_1_Double_Strap.html

They were significantly cheaper at the Photoplus show...

The good news is I have all the quality wide-angle and normal Zoom glass I want right now (14-24 and 24-70) so I'm really set for glass on FF, it's just the times when I want more reach that I've got further purchases ahead of me.

Unfortunately that includes the exotic telephoto. Unless I seriously pursue sports photography I can see the 70-200 2.8 VR2 on my horizon but the 400, 500 and 600 are going to be out of my budget...

Of course the 105VR and the 24, 35, 50 and 85 primes would be nice too, but....
post #4 of 74
Yeah, I went dueling 5D MKIIs just because I was always frustrated by not having a prime lens for the shot I wanted when I was also using a zoom for most of the other shots during prime shooting opportunities (and didn't want to swap lenses all day long), so life's short, and gotta make the best of it, with less compromises...

I will have to check into double-strap options.
post #5 of 74
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Nice, that really is badass.

Adorama is taking D4 preorders but they collect NJ sales tax. Sad panda:
http://nikonrumors.com/2012/01/06/adorama-now-taking-nikon-d4-pre-orders.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-217047
post #6 of 74
I am starting to consider a FF body, too, as the prices of the Canon 5DMkII keep dropping. My plan would be to keep my 7D as a second body for the wildlife / telephoto shots, and use the 5D for landscapes. For ultra-wide angle, I would probably stick with using the 10-22mm on the 7D, since I do not really shoot much UWA anyway. This setup would allow me to avoid changing lenses in most situations when we are traveling.

Anyone interested in buying a Canon EFS 17-55mm f/2.8 IS lens? biggrin.gif
post #7 of 74
I would really love to have a D4. But, $6,000 is a little rich for my blood. I guess I'll just have to keep living with my D7000............ biggrin.gif
post #8 of 74
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Originally Posted by Scott Merryfield View Post

I am starting to consider a FF body, too, as the prices of the Canon 5DMkII keep dropping. My plan would be to keep my 7D as a second body for the wildlife / telephoto shots, and use the 5D for landscapes. For ultra-wide angle, I would probably stick with using the 10-22mm on the 7D, since I do not really shoot much UWA anyway. This setup would allow me to avoid changing lenses in most situations when we are traveling.
Anyone interested in buying a Canon EFS 17-55mm f/2.8 IS lens? biggrin.gif

With my move to FF completely, it pains me to have to sell off my Canon 17-55mm IS F/2.8 lens as well (looks like the going price is about $800).

The Canon 5D MKII is a FF deal right now (even with the MKIII on the horizon), I like my 5D MKII just fine, and they can be had used for $1700-$2100 depending on shutter count and condition. I almost went with a 7D for a 2nd body, but in the end, I just like having to deal with FF bodies, and not worrying about the crop factor and dealing with EF-S lenses anymore. EF all the way, bay-bee!!!

Holy thread hi-jack! Sorry! Hah!
post #9 of 74
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Originally Posted by Patrick Sun View Post

With my move to FF completely, it pains me to have to sell off my Canon 17-55mm IS F/2.8 lens as well (looks like the going price is about $800).
The Canon 5D MKII is a FF deal right now (even with the MKIII on the horizon), I like my 5D MKII just fine, and they can be had used for $1700-$2100 depending on shutter count and condition. I almost went with a 7D for a 2nd body, but in the end, I just like having to deal with FF bodies, and not worrying about the crop factor and dealing with EF-S lenses anymore. EF all the way, bay-bee!!!
Holy thread hi-jack! Sorry! Hah!

I am considering the 5DMK2 plus 24-105mmL "kit" lens for $2,799 at Amazon. I have almost $300 in Amazon gift credits right now, which really brings the price down. The 24-105mm would work on my 7D, too. My only two EFS lenses are the 17-55mm (which I would probably sell) and the 10-22mm, which I would keep for the occasional UWA shot. When carrying two bodies, having the 24-105mm on the 5D and 10-22mm on the 7D would provide a very nice UWA to short telephoto focal range. Exchange the 10-22 for either my 70-200mm f/4 IS or 100-400mm on the 7D, and I also get great range from wide angle to super telephoto.

I would probably eventually replace the 50mm f/1.8 (which I never use on my crop body) with the f/1.4 version for use on the 5D, as I do use the 28mm f/1.8 lens quite a bit on the 7D. I really dislike the AF performance of the 50mm f/1.8, but haven't bothered to do anything about it, since I do not use that focal length much when using prime lenses on a crop sensor anyway.

Giving up the 7D is not an option for me. The auto focus system and crop sensor are features I really use when photographing wildlife. I occasionally shoot some ice hockey, too, but that's not a big consideration, since it's just playing around.

Sorry about the hijack, too. Now back to your regularly scheduled drool-fest over Sam's dream camera. laugh.gif
post #10 of 74
The D4 looks good, Sam. Any thoughts on the Canon 1D X?

Have the 5DMkii myself but waiting for new lens announcements... Would love the 135 f/2 but I feel a new version may be due soon...

Joe
post #11 of 74
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The 1DX looks like an awesome beast! I got to play with one briefly at PPE, it felt great.

My d4 pre-order is in!
post #12 of 74
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B&H is now accepting pre-orders.

I may regret it, but I am keeping my order with Ritz. Better to be in the first batch with these guys than far down on the list from B&H? Time will tell!
http://nikonrumors.com/2012/01/09/bh-opened-their-nikon-d4-pre-orders.aspx
post #13 of 74
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B&H is no longer taking pre orders.

Engadget shows off the server mode over ethernet:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/12/nikon-d4-hands-on-video/#continued

Terrific details:
http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=7-11673-12223
Edited by Sam Posten - 1/12/12 at 9:35am
post #14 of 74
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D800 is now official and so far I have absolutely no regrets with my decision to go to a D4. I have no idea who needs 36 megapickles and the video capabilities are the same at best to the D4 at exactly half the price.

http://nikonrumors.com/2012/02/06/nikon-d800-announcement.aspx/
http://nikonrumors.com/2012/02/07/nikon-d800-now-available-for-pre-order.aspx/
http://nikonrumors.com/2012/02/07/joy-ride-the-nikon-d800-promo-video-is-out.aspx/

All I wanted was a D3s sensor in a D700 body, since that's not happening for at least another year D4 it is. Truly boggled at this direction that Nikon is taking but time will tell if I soften on that or if it's one of the worst missteps in Nikon history.

If I owned a D3X right now I'd be crying tho =)

It's not what you wanted but it's a monster:
http://gizmodo.com/5882583/nikon-d800-its-not-what-you-wanted-but-it-is-a-36+megapixel-mini+monster

Are you ready for some pixels?
http://bythom.com/d800intro.htm

http://prophotocoalition.com/index.php/dcarr/story/nikon_launches_the_36mp_d800/
http://cliffmautner.typepad.com/ has samples
Edited by Sam Posten - 2/7/12 at 9:18am
post #15 of 74

 

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If I owned a D3X right now I'd be crying tho =)

 

I own a D700, so no terrible urge yet to upgrade. But I find the D800 fascinating.

(And the D4 as well!)

 

I suppose Canon users will now start looking out for a Mk III release.

 

 

Cees

post #16 of 74
My friend told me that the release date for the D4 got pushed back a month (to mid-March).
post #17 of 74
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That's the rumor, no official confirmation yet that I know of, Adorama is warning that it's been moved back tho.

http://nikonrumors.com/2012/02/11/adorama-estimates-the-nikon-d4-delivery-as-late-march-2012.aspx/

More D4 info/hands on:
http://nikonrumors.com/2012/02/11/nikon-at-the-2012-cp-show-pictures-d800-hands-on-d4-demo-videos.aspx/

Check out that burst depth!
post #18 of 74
I have a canon at the moment but I seriously might upgrade to this nikon, anyone read any reviews about it, I am assuming actually someone has tried it despite its pushed back release date. loos nice and compact and I think nikon is a really reliable brand, guessing there might be a bit of competition to get our hands on the first ones! I am not great with photograpghy though, does anyone know what lenses are best etc? I wouldnt be using it professionally, just for family holidays etc
post #19 of 74
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Originally Posted by rosebud View Post

I have a canon at the moment but I seriously might upgrade to this nikon, anyone read any reviews about it, I am assuming actually someone has tried it despite its pushed back release date. loos nice and compact and I think nikon is a really reliable brand, guessing there might be a bit of competition to get our hands on the first ones! I am not great with photography though, does anyone know what lenses are best etc? I wouldnt be using it professionally, just for family holidays etc

A $6,000 camera body is probably overkill if you are not an advanced amateur (like Sam) or a professional.
post #20 of 74
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Originally Posted by Scott Merryfield View Post


A $6,000 camera body is probably overkill if you are not an advanced amateur (like Sam) or a professional.


But $3000 isn't overkill, necessarily, for a non-professional. The D800-body is just below that amount.

 

 

Cees

post #21 of 74
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Originally Posted by Cees Alons View Post



But $3000 isn't overkill, necessarily, for a non-professional. The D800-body is just below that amount.


Cees

True, but Stanley's post seemed to indicate he was interested in the D4.
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I think we're both trying to send the same signal to Stanley. smile.gif

 

 

Cees

post #23 of 74
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Originally Posted by Cees Alons View Post


But $3000 isn't overkill, necessarily, for a non-professional. The D800-body is just below that amount.

Cees

Maybe the price isn't overkill but the megapickles are. Seriously no amateur needs 36 of em. You are much much better off buying a used D700 or waiting for the -real- D700 replacement. I strongly suspect we are going to see a LOT of unimpressed and regretful early D800 buyers.

http://nikonrumors.com/2012/02/23/poll-nikon-d800-with-36mp-or-with-16mp-sensor.aspx/
http://nikonrumors.com/2012/02/22/nikon-d800-vs-nikon-d700-high-iso-comparison.aspx/
http://nikonrumors.com/2012/02/17/nikon-d800d800e-technical-guide-now-available-for-download.aspx/
post #24 of 74

I won't be buying a used D700 - I already own one.  smile.gif

 

Yet - you could combine three pixels of a D800 and get a D700 picture but now with three genuine colour components. It's a real improvement if it works properly and, as I said, it will be interesting to see how it works out in practice.

(BTW, I don't think the 2nd-hand price of a D700 will drop impressively very soon.)

 

And to better judge some of the comments we're already getting on the 'net: don't forget about the grapes hanging out of reach!

 

 

Cees

post #25 of 74
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Looks like you are wrong Cees, prices for used will drop soon because the NEW price is dropping $500, its not discontinued in the US and Europe after all, just Japan:

http://nikonrumors.com/2012/02/24/500-price-reduction-for-the-nikon-d700-in-the-us-next-month.aspx/
post #26 of 74

Ha, ha, yes.

Probably too much inventory here and there in need to get sold.

 

 

Cees

post #27 of 74
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Orders are starting to ship to NPS members and they've included a neat treat in the pre-order batches, a fre 16gb XQD card and reader, both Sony branded.

I had been seeing people mention on fora that they had been getting offers in their Amazon gold box to order the D4 for 5% off, or $5699 so I inquired of Amazon if I was entitled to this price under their pre-order price guarantee. They denied repeatedly that anyone was getting this price but when I presented them the actual order info from other people they hastily changed my order and reduced the preorder price for me too!

I am so stoked. One less batch of plasma I will have to sell off to afford it =)

Now just the waiting remains. I actually had it pre-ordered at B&H and Amazon both, figuring I would cancel whichever shipped first, but with the price drop I'll wait for however long it takes Amazon to ship to me. Hopefully it won't be months and months.
http://nikonrumors.com/2012/03/14/nikon-d4-shipping-to-nps-member-in-the-us.aspx
http://nikonrumors.com/2012/03/14/nikon-d4-manual-xqd-cards-and-other-updates.aspx/
http://nikonrumors.com/2012/03/13/nikon-d4-unboxing-video.aspx/
http://nikonrumors.com/2012/03/13/first-nikon-d4-delivered.aspx/
Edited by Sam Posten - 3/15/12 at 8:29am
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post #29 of 74
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Was really hoping mine would have shipped last week, doesn't seem like anyone but NPS have gotten theirs in the states so far. I hope Amazon can come through!
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I'm sure you're going to be very happy with that baby!

 

Although I gave myself some time to decide when (and with what) I would replace my D700 with, fate (or Freud possibly  smiley_wink.gif ) has forced my hand.

 

Last week we were on a short cruise vacation, involving  boarding from Baltimore. When we got out of the taxi on the pier, my wife was paying the taxi driver and I was forced to jump out quickly to handle the porter who started to unload our suitcases from the trunk.

 

While I was explaining him where they had to go, etc., show him a copy of the label he would have to print - he asked me to copy the number on it myself - my wife got out also and the taxi drove away. Only a few moments later he was totally out of sight, when I realized my D700 was still on the back seat.

 

No need to tell you that no one remembered any number or name (the hotel when called could name the company to us, but the taxi company claimed to have no contact with their drivers during the working day).

 

So, I could have bought it back that evening, I guess, on eBay, from either the ahem x-honest taxi driver or else the equally honest next customer.  furious.gif

 

The only good news was the fact that I changed the CF-card just before leaving the hotel, so all my photos, except two rather inconsequential ones, were in my pocket.

I had to buy a D3100 in Key-West to even be able to make a few more photos. It will probably be a nice present to my daughter later.

 

So, now about those D4, D800, D800E cameras....

 

 

Cees

 

 

PS: In Nassau, Bahamas, in a bookshop, a big "funny" sign caught our attention, saying:

 

Finders Keepers

Losers Weepers.

 

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, so funny!   frown.gif

C.

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