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post #1 of 42
12/2/11 at 5:44am
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post #2 of 42
1/4/12 at 3:17pm

Amsterdamned (1988) has been released on Region 2 in the UK by Nouveaux Pictures (back in 2009). There is a Dutch audio with English subtitles version, and an English dubbed audio version on the disc. Worth getting. Had never heard of this film until this release came along.

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post #3 of 42
1/4/12 at 6:28pm
Um, this is the second time you listed GREAT AMERICAN GIRL ROBBERY. And yes, it is out on DVD, as is CURTAINS, DELINQUENT SCHOOL GIMANIPULATOR, MACABRE, SPACESHIP, SALOMES LAST DANCE, GOTHIC, TRICK OR TREATS, REBORN, BIGGLES

Lions gate doesnt own GAS PUMP GIRLS, POWER, TERMINAL CHOICE, MORTUARY, KINDRED, PRIME RISK, NEW YORK NIGHTS, MAN ON FIRE, other studios own them now.

What is MASSIVE CRETALIATION? Sounds like a fun flick!
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post #4 of 42
1/5/12 at 9:16am
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Thanks for pointing that out...he said, redfaced. I'll change the mistakes.

The last one you mentioned is a very rare movie-cant find it anywhere! (obviously its foreign).
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post #5 of 42
1/5/12 at 11:41am



 

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What is MASSIVE CRETALIATION? Sounds like a fun flick!



Maybe we're talking about Massive Retaliation (1984).  Which was a huge stinker, even for Drive-Ins.  Gas Pump Girls is Gone With The Wind compared to this title.

 

It was released on VHS in 1991 and is in the Lionsgate library. 

 

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post #6 of 42
1/5/12 at 12:53pm
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Thanks. Yes , MASSIVE RETALIATION (the English translation!) was godawful.

I alweays founsd Meg Foster very interesting and its cool that she was some kind of genre babe without really ever being labeled as one.

WELCOME TO ARROW BEACH , THUMB TRIPPING , MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE and others -she transcended bad films . Her one shot at stardom -A DIFFERENT STORY -flopped in 2 different releases. Avco Embassy really tried to make it a hit. It would actually make for a cute remake.

These lists are conversation starters only-I tried to have fun with it and in doing so made me nostalgic for vhs! I'm aware alot of them are not placed correctly on the lists...and hoped you'd help me sort it out as an exercise in rightsholders. I've always been fascinated by it.

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CURTAINS, DELINQUENT SCHOOL GIMANIPULATOR, MACABRE, SPACESHIP, SALOMES LAST DANCE, GOTHIC, TRICK OR TREATS, REBORN, BIGGLES


I am aware of these - many are in 50 FILM PACKS by less then reputable DVD companies. I've bought a few of these sets with the same attitude as i watch netflix streaming -its a way t see movies not aailable in any other way -regardless of quality .
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post #7 of 42
1/7/12 at 9:42am
i would like to see the odd angry shot.
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post #8 of 42
1/7/12 at 1:34pm
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i would like to see the odd angry shot.


Synapse has the Region 1 rights to this Australian film, but they don't seem to be in any hurry to release it.
 

 

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post #9 of 42
1/7/12 at 1:47pm



 

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i would like to see the odd angry shot.


The Odd Angry Shot is one heck of a film.  Taped if off HBO sometime in the early 80's and wore the tape out. About four years ago I was happy to grab a hold of an Australian DVD and was pleased with the transfer.  Not sure why this film has entered my mind and stayed there except it is interesting to see how other countries saw and treated the Vietnam war.  There were other countries over there besides the US at one time. 

 

Not sure that the title is still in the Lionsgate (Vestron) library.  Most of the titles that the Australian Film Commission were involved in left that library in the early 2000's.  Criterion picked up a few of the titles and I wish they had picked up this one too. 
 

 

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post #10 of 42
1/7/12 at 3:12pm
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THE ODD ANGRY SHOT is deserving of a great DVD presentation. I revisit this masterpiece at least once a year. Its attention to detail is impeccable and it has a nearly allstar Aussie cast from Bryan Brown to Alvin Purple himself-Graeme Brundell. All hold their own.

Not sure if this ever received a u.s. theatrical release. In the 80s Manhattan's D.W. Griffith theater used to run Aussie Fests-but I do not believe this is one of them.

There are so many vintage Oz films that need releases to DVD. All weget are the Ozploitation or Mel Gibson films. I'd like to see THE GETTING OF WISDOM ; WINTER OF OUR DREAMS ; and for a little fun the Alvin Purple trilogy.

I think you may be right about Lionsgate not owning the rights-which may work to its advantage.
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post #11 of 42
1/7/12 at 6:34pm
Given that my Lionsgate MOD preorders with Amazon have been postponed to a date unknown, I wouldn't hold my breath (but I also saw THE ODD ANGRY SHOT several times on HBO).
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post #12 of 42
1/7/12 at 6:50pm
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Originally Posted by Bob Cashill View Post

Given that my Lionsgate MOD preorders with Amazon have been postponed to a date unknown, I wouldn't hold my breath (but I also saw THE ODD ANGRY SHOT several times on HBO).



LionsGate does not own The Odd Angry Shot.  That film and several other films that Vestron controlled went back to the Australian Film Commission and they have been particled out. 

 

By the way off subject some, but there will be news announced Monday that LionsGate has taken over Summit Films.  Another small company bites the dust. 

 

 

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post #13 of 42
1/8/12 at 7:11am
i am wondering who owns anzacs the war down under? another great film that needs dvd treatment is the final option/who dares win. finally i would like to see tenamera the lion of Singapore.
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post #14 of 42
1/8/12 at 9:53am
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i am wondering who owns anzacs the war down under? another great film that needs dvd treatment is the final option/who dares win. finally i would like to see tenamera the lion of Singapore.



The Final Option (aka Who Dares Wins) (1982) has been released in the UK by Arrow Films (a DVD and Blu-ray release), with a re-release from Arrow Video on Blu-ray (possibly Region B) in March.

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post #15 of 42
1/8/12 at 11:11am
It's also streaming on Netflix. A natural for the MGM MOD in R1, and a movie that Spielberg, Zemeckis, and Kubrick all liked: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_Dares_Wins_(film)
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post #16 of 42
1/8/12 at 3:06pm
i would also like to see sword of honour on dvd.
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post #17 of 42
1/8/12 at 3:07pm
i wonder who owns THE LONG DAYS DYING (1968) David Hemmings another war movie.
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post #18 of 42
1/8/12 at 3:39pm
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i wonder who owns THE LONG DAYS DYING (1968) David Hemmings another war movie.

 

I think Olive is going to release it this year.  It was on last years list.  Paramount still controls the ownership rights.

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post #19 of 42
1/9/12 at 2:21am
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THE ODD ANGRY SHOT is deserving of a great DVD presentation. I revisit this masterpiece at least once a year. Its attention to detail is impeccable and it has a nearly allstar Aussie cast from Bryan Brown to Alvin Purple himself-Graeme Brundell. All hold their own.
Not sure if this ever received a u.s. theatrical release. In the 80s Manhattan's D.W. Griffith theater used to run Aussie Fests-but I do not believe this is one of them.
There are so many vintage Oz films that need releases to DVD. All weget are the Ozploitation or Mel Gibson films. I'd like to see THE GETTING OF WISDOM ; WINTER OF OUR DREAMS ; and for a little fun the Alvin Purple trilogy.
I think you may be right about Lionsgate not owning the rights-which may work to its advantage.

You need to get a muti region player as the Alvin Purple films and The Getting of Wisdom are available in Australia (try EZY DVD).

No sign of Winter of our Dreams - I'm waiting for that one myself.
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post #20 of 42
1/9/12 at 4:33am
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Thank you. I do have a multiregion player and will check them out.

Others that were on video here in that huge wave in the 80s that I'd like to see get a u.s. dvd release are

The Rollicking Adventures of Eliza Fraser

Sunday Too Far Away

Picture Show Man

"Jock" Petersen


In fact , there were quite a few Australian films in theaters, video and cable that gave very good coverage. But since The Last Wave of films , there hasnt been such a great influx of homegrown films from Oz.
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post #21 of 42
1/9/12 at 11:56am
"Jock" Petersen was just released this week in Australia on DVD as Petersen.

The Rollocking Adventures of Eliza Fraser has been released as Eliza Fraser.

Not too sure about The Picture Show Man & Sunday Too Far Away.
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post #22 of 42
1/9/12 at 12:53pm
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I think THE PICTURE SHOW MAN may be lost forever-a shame. It was one of Rod Taylors better later roles.

SUNDAY TOO FAR AWAY was a winning little movie-I have an Embassy vhs that is long out of print.

Was "Jock" Petersen released with that title there as it was here -or just as PETERSEN?
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post #23 of 42
1/10/12 at 12:16pm
Just PETERSON.

The Last Picture Show definitely isn't lost. The National Film Archive would have a print. It's only a matter of time before it shows up on DVD,
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post #24 of 42
1/11/12 at 11:16am
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I know THE LAST PICTURE SHOW is not lost-thank goodness. I was referring to the 1977 Rod Taylor film -THE PICTURE SHOW MAN.

TPSM hasnt been seen anywhere since a late 70s hbo showing. I've read about it and vaguely remember seeing it-but have never come acxross a video.

Rod Taylor is still with us and was fun in INGLORIOUS BASTERDS. It was gret to see DARK OF THE SUN hit DVD last year.
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post #25 of 42
1/11/12 at 4:01pm
Sorry, a slip up by me. I meant The Picture Show Man is not lost.

I went to a retro screening of the film about 10 years ago. It may have been released on video in the early 80's but I cannot confirm that.
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post #26 of 42
1/13/12 at 4:45am
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We all slip up once in a while.

On the Lionsgate track again , I Netflixed ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK and noticed the thundering Studio Canal logo in the beginning-not the roar of the MGM lion.

I believe that Lionsgate now controls this as well as former MGM Avco embassy releases as ZAPPED! , TAKE THIS JOB AND SHOVE IT , PHANTASM , THE FOGand CARBON COPY among others.

I'm surprised the exploitable titles such as DEADLY HERO , THE SOLDIER , PARADISE , GOLDENGIRL never made it to DVD.

Is it easy to assume that ALL Avco Embassy titles are now controlled by Lionsgate? Including the Anchor Bay titles: THE SEDUCTION , VICE SQUAD and WINTER KILLS?

It would be a shame if LG didnt do anything with this entertaining library-but I fear that the love poured on to the amazing Special Editions of MGM and the extras filled Anchor bay titles will be abandoned by Lionsgate. Hold on to what you own!
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post #27 of 42
1/13/12 at 8:14am
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We all slip up once in a while.
On the Lionsgate track again , I Netflixed ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK and noticed the thundering Studio Canal logo in the beginning-not the roar of the MGM lion.
I believe that Lionsgate now controls this as well as former MGM Avco embassy releases as ZAPPED! , TAKE THIS JOB AND SHOVE IT , PHANTASM , THE FOGand CARBON COPY among others.
I'm surprised the exploitable titles such as DEADLY HERO , THE SOLDIER , PARADISE , GOLDENGIRL never made it to DVD.
Is it easy to assume that ALL Avco Embassy titles are now controlled by Lionsgate? Including the Anchor Bay titles: THE SEDUCTION , VICE SQUAD and WINTER KILLS?
It would be a shame if LG didnt do anything with this entertaining library-but I fear that the love poured on to the amazing Special Editions of MGM and the extras filled Anchor bay titles will be abandoned by Lionsgate. Hold on to what you own!

Once again, Marc Edward Heuck could give a very good explanation of the complex ownership of these films and probably will, eventually. Since he hasn't chimed in yet, to me, it seems as if there is some joint ownership / distribution over some of these at least in the States, at least where home video is concerned, as my ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK Blu-ray, for instance, is issued by MGM / Fox, but also has a Studio Canal logo on it. That title and many of the other titles in this group remain readily available for purchase on MGM DVDs and Blu-rays. I would say it's definitely not "easy to assume" anything, not in the case of Avco-Embassy / MGM / Studio Canal or any other.

The Wikipedia entry on Embassy (by no means the be all and end all) has this to say about the ownership of the library:
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Today, the Embassy corporation, its divisions and film & television holdings, are split.

The theatrical rights to the Embassy film library (with the few exceptions noted in the next paragraph) are at the hands of French production company StudioCanal (represented by Stuart Lisell Films and Rialto Pictures, depending on the individual re-issue rights), with 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment (distributing for MGM), Image Entertainment (through The Criterion Collection), Lionsgate Home Entertainment, and Anchor Bay Entertainment handling video distribution (via separate output deals).

MGM owns A Chorus Line outright due to co-producer PolyGram Filmed Entertainment's holdings being incorporated into MGM's library. Sony owns Crimewave and Saving Grace (both co-produced by Embassy Pictures) and the television rights to Embassy's entire film output, and also owns the television output outright by virtue of Sony Pictures Television acquiring the Embassy television division.

As to the theatrical library, Columbia originally owned television rights to The Carpetbaggers and Nevada Smith, while Paramount owned all other rights (Trifecta Entertainment & Media now handles TV rights to the two films on behalf of Paramount). Columbia also originally handled television distribution of Blade Runner before WB took back full rights; ironically WB now also owns Watership Down and Rudolph & Frosty's Christmas In July, while the aforementioned Embassy-distributed ITC films are now the responsibility of ITV Global Entertainment Ltd.
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post #28 of 42
1/13/12 at 8:17am
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Originally Posted by Louis Letizia View Post

I'm surprised the exploitable titles such as DEADLY HERO , THE SOLDIER , PARADISE , GOLDENGIRL never made it to DVD.

PARADISE and THE SOLDIER have been released in several other regions and can be had rather cheaply. Not sure about DEADLY HERO or GOLDENGIRL.
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post #29 of 42
1/13/12 at 9:15am
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The wikepedia article was very informative-thanks. The more I delve , the more I believe Avco Embassy was only a distribution arm as many of their films are scattered. I'm fascinated y all of this and ultimately it comes down to the original producers perogative.

Seperatly it seems the Joseph E. Levine library is as scattershot. You would think HERCULES and its sequel would be put out by a major distributor. I am aware that Paramount now controls THE CARBETBAGGERS , HARLOW and NEVADA SMITH but wHAT of THE OSCAR and TATTOO? 2 films that seem assured sellers?

20th Century Fox seems to not have controlled alot of their 70s/80s films for homevideo either. In only 7 releases in 1978 -2 of Fox's biggest hits -THE BOYS FROM BRAZIL and MAGIC are controlled by others. But it seems we may never see their Mel Simon product -THE RUNNER STUMBLES and SCAVENGER HUNT and CHU CHU AND THE PHILLY FLASH. I believe they no longer own MIDDLE AGE CRAZY . Would that reside with Kroft and thus with BCI ? ON THE RIGHT TRACK from 1981 is also MIA. In its way Fox is as complex as Embassy.
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post #30 of 42
1/13/12 at 9:55am



 

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Originally Posted by Louis Letizia View Post

The wikepedia article was very informative-thanks. The more I delve , the more I believe Avco Embassy was only a distribution arm as many of their films are scattered. I'm fascinated y all of this and ultimately it comes down to the original producers perogative.
Seperatly it seems the Joseph E. Levine library is as scattershot. You would think HERCULES and its sequel would be put out by a major distributor. I am aware that Paramount now controls THE CARBETBAGGERS , HARLOW and NEVADA SMITH but wHAT of THE OSCAR and TATTOO? 2 films that seem assured sellers?
20th Century Fox seems to not have controlled alot of their 70s/80s films for homevideo either. In only 7 releases in 1978 -2 of Fox's biggest hits -THE BOYS FROM BRAZIL and MAGIC are controlled by others. But it seems we may never see their Mel Simon product -THE RUNNER STUMBLES and SCAVENGER HUNT and CHU CHU AND THE PHILLY FLASH. I believe they no longer own MIDDLE AGE CRAZY . Would that reside with Kroft and thus with BCI ? ON THE RIGHT TRACK from 1981 is also MIA. In its way Fox is as complex as Embassy.


 

Most of the smaller distribution company's of the 60's, 70's and 80's, such as Avco Embassy, Allied Artists, Group 1, and Cinerama Releasing augmented their distribution arm by doing the theatrical releasing only along with producing their own titles.  MGM, Fox, Columbia also did the same thing.  They were not producing enough films themselves to kept the distribution and marketing departments busy so they picked up independent titles to keep their pipelines open and bring in money to cover their cost.  The pick-ups were for theatre release and some television sales only and they did not include home entertainment rights.  Mostly due to the fact that home entertainment was not around in the 60's and 70's.  That is one of the reasons trying to determine who has controlling rights can be a mystery.  Sometimes they go back to the producer, who has passed and the estate does not even know they own the film.  Or, the producer that has the rights thinks it is worth so much more than it is and can never make a deal for the release, such as the case with the missing seven AIP films that Susan Hart Nicholson owns from her late husband James H. Nicholson. Warner Brothers which controls a large part of Allied Artists, has said several times that the number of AA films they control the rights too are minimal for titles in the late 60's and 70's.

 

Hercules was nothing more than a pick-up for theatrical release.  Rights went back to the original producer many years ago and no one as been able to make a deal with them for a legitimate region 1 release. 

 

The Oscar now is controlled by Studio Canal so it would, at the present fall under LionsGate.  Fat chance for a release on that one.  Tattoo resides with AMC Holding along with Magic.  I supposed that Dark Sky could release it since it released Magic, but if a deal was struck it would have come out a few years ago around the same time as Magic. 

 

On The Right Track, Chu Chu, Scavenger Hunt and Runner Stumbles still belong to Fox and unless Shout or Twilight grab the titles, then you will not see a DVD. 

 

Middle Age Crazy as several copyright holders, including Canada, as producers and they have not been able to agree on what to do with the film so it sits in a dark hole.  It would have made too much sence to just renew the agreement with Fox. 


 

 


Edited by ahollis - 1/13/12 at 10:50am
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