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post #61 of 74
11/7/11 at 9:28am

what i have learned in all these years is that this site is a wealth of information, and there are many respected behind the scenes people here, i value there knowledge and input, some have seen of have better info than the layman approach, that said instead of that challenge to ones reputation i offer the following,

 

 

http://www.facebook.com/WBClassicAnimation?sk=wall

 

 

the site is live, and well its sort of the chat aspect, so questions could be placed on both sites

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post #62 of 74
11/7/11 at 9:36am
I stll haven't had a chance to check disk 1... I got distracted by Island of Dr Moreau and Phantom of the Opera... But how many cartoons are we talking about? If it's a quarter or a third, like was said previously, more than half of the cartoons on the first disk must be bad. I checked and the whole second disk is good. The only problems there are a couple of prints that are a bit softer than the others, but they're still miles ahead of DVD in sharpness.

If we're talking about five or six substandard prints, that's par for the course for Warner cartoon sets. I can't think of a set they put out that was perfect. The Popeye set came close, but it had one print with unnaturally goosed color and several with DVNR blurring of lines. The Warner Bros cartoon collections had all kinds of problems sprinkled through the run of the series.

Maybe someone could list the titles with the problems so we all have a sense of the scale of the problem.
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post #63 of 74
11/7/11 at 10:31am
>Sigh< They have been listed, both on my site and in my Amazon review, and even in this thread. Of the ten offending shorts, "Puss n' Toots", "Sufferin' Cats", "Lonesome Mouse", and "Mouse Trouble" aren't that bad, but in the case of the latter three, they could still look better. "The Bowling Alley-Cat", "Zoot Cat", "Million Dollar Cat", "Puttin' on the Dog", "Quiet Please", and "Milky Waif" look seriously wrong.

Kriztoffer, I guess when you read that your musings based on expending time and energy doing actual research is "hardly credible", you only see red. Your statement on the BG comparison, on how the Blu-Ray is preferable even if it "certainly looks faded and too dark, and some BG art detail is being lost", means I'm just screaming at a brick wall by even participating here.
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post #64 of 74
11/7/11 at 10:55am
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>Sigh<
Kriztoffer, I guess when you read that your musings based on expending time and energy doing actual research is "hardly credible", you only see red. Your statement on the BG comparison, on how the Blu-Ray is preferable even if it "certainly looks faded and too dark, and some BG art detail is being lost", means I'm just screaming at a brick wall by even participating here.


One member disagrees with you and you are "screaming at a brick wall by even participating here?"

 

How dramatic. 

 

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post #65 of 74
11/7/11 at 11:40am
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>I guess when you read that your musings based on expending time and energy doing actual research is "hardly credible", you only see red. Your statement on the BG comparison, on how the Blu-Ray is preferable even if it "certainly looks faded and too dark, and some BG art detail is being lost", means I'm just screaming at a brick wall by even participating here.

I have already said, in follow up to my original comment, that the link to your review was made without reference to who you were and your site didn't indicate it either. Therefore, as mentioned, I didn't see why your review should be labelled "credible" and the others not, be it in implication or otherwise - especially as you all said very similar things for the most part.

Bejesus!

I guess I'm "just screaming at a brick wall" too..

M
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post #66 of 74
11/7/11 at 6:57pm
Whatever.
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post #67 of 74
11/8/11 at 10:01am
Watched the first 2 over the weekend and was overjoyed in how they looked. Was going to catch a few more but the cat/mouse game HERE is more fun!1 35

...this is why I come here, awesome discussions like this that I couldn't possible participate in but wish I could. I've tried video restoration before to try, and it's extremely fun. And working with such a beloved classic like T&J can make you even more passionate when debating in a discussion like this.

Carryon..
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post #68 of 74
11/8/11 at 4:09pm
Yeah, HTF has never been a real ally to animation fans, and probably never will be.
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post #69 of 74
11/8/11 at 4:23pm

While the 10 shorts people on the net are talking about being bad are less than perfect, I can live with the set even if there is no recall.

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post #70 of 74
11/8/11 at 9:25pm
I bounced through the first disk today. There was just one cartoon that looked bad, it was called Putting on the Dog. It had blown out backgrounds and boosted contrast. The rest varied a little here and there but were significantly better than the DVD. I think the handwringing over this is overstated. Disney's Alice or Sleeping Beauty are much worse.
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post #71 of 74
11/9/11 at 3:36am

Due to the debate over the quality of this BRD, I recently bought this BRD and will be viewing it very soon.  Furthermore, HTF has always supported animation and even hosted some chat(s) regarding animation.  However, certain animation fans have a tendency to go overboard with their criticism on some releases and those that don't agree with their POV.

 

 

 

 

 

Crawdaddy

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post #72 of 74
11/9/11 at 9:05am
I think that the equipment you view the disk on makes a difference too. I've never had much of a sense of how gamma works, but I know enough about it to know that how something looks on a computer does not always relate to how it looks on a TV. Also, the size and resolution make a difference too. I can't see any real improvement in bluray over DVD on my CRT TV, but on my ten foot projection system, it's quite clear.
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post #73 of 74
11/24/11 at 10:48am
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Sorry to hurt feelings, but anyone who thinks that the one on the right is closer to how it's "supposed" to look is.... well, many things. "Correct" isn't one of them though.

After seeing how the BD basically eliminates all the yellow, among other things, I can't possibly fathom how anyone could think the picture on the right is correct.
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post #74 of 74
11/26/11 at 2:55pm
It doesn't look like that on my Epson projector. Might be a frame grab calibration problem.
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