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post #241 of 480
1/28/12 at 5:17am
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I feel sorry for the folks who had already read the comics prior to seeing this because I think they missed out on a lot of the suspense.

Like Greg said, things are different enough that the suspense is still there because it kinda broadly follows the comic but it's not a direct adaptation. Granted, there's a couple of things that I assume will eventually happen on the TV show in the years to come that will shock people who haven't read the comics.
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post #242 of 480
2/3/12 at 9:37am
John Hawkes opts not to play The Governor.

With Hawkes out of the running, my next vote goes straight to Knepper.
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post #243 of 480
2/12/12 at 11:00am
FYI - second half of the second season starts back up tonight.
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post #244 of 480
2/12/12 at 12:05pm
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Originally Posted by Patrick Sun View Post

FYI - second half of the second season starts back up tonight.

Thanks for the heads up, I'd have had no idea until I saw a bunch of episodes collected on my DVR.
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post #245 of 480
2/12/12 at 7:30pm
Generally, I thought this was one of the better episodes. The ending, in particular, was electric. The only thing I call BS on is Lori's car crash. With all of the completely plausible ways for someone to sustain a life-threatening injury in this universe, having her drive off to fetch Rick when he'd only been gone an hour or two isn't justifiable.

But yeah, Rick once again walks the walk.
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post #246 of 480
2/12/12 at 7:52pm
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Originally Posted by Adam Lenhardt View Post

Generally, I thought this was one of the better episodes. The ending, in particular, was electric.
Yeah, I've started getting worried when I like an episode because it means I'll dislike the next one since the quality of the show greatly varies week to week.

That scenes in the bar were very good. I like that Rick keeps showing that he can do what needs to be done in order to survive in their world and do it without losing his humanity (like Shane).

As an aside, I'm from outside Philadelphia and I think Micahel Raymond-James got the accent down pat.
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post #247 of 480
2/12/12 at 7:53pm
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Originally Posted by Adam Lenhardt View Post

having her drive off to fetch Rick when he'd only been gone an hour or two isn't justifiable.

I thought it was pretty sudden as well.

That scene with Britt from Terriers was awesome throughout. They did a great job of giving the scene such an uneasy feeling, even when he was really just asking innocent questions. As great as Rick's final solution to it was, I would have liked see him stick around, as another threat that's always out there.
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post #248 of 480
2/12/12 at 7:53pm
Holy shit, that ending. Rick goes into total-badass mode...and we're spared a long, dragged-out plot of bad seeds invading the farm and our gang.

I was all, "Cool. New cast members." Then that happened. Ha. I honestly wasn't sure which way it was going to go. It would've been nice for the show to get some new blood, but the "new" Rick seems to know what he has to be now.
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post #249 of 480
2/12/12 at 8:00pm
I'm guessing we'll meet the other people from those two guys' group soon enough.
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post #250 of 480
2/12/12 at 8:50pm
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Originally Posted by TravisR View Post

I'm guessing we'll meet the other people from those two guys' group soon enough.

I'm not fully sure I believe there were others. I mean, part of me was thinking they were making it up to hear about where Rick's people (and more importantly shelter) were. But of course it's also possible that he was telling the truth, and there's a group of people just as creepy as him not that far away.
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post #251 of 480
2/12/12 at 9:04pm
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Holy shit, that ending. Rick goes into total-badass mode...and we're spared a long, dragged-out plot of bad seeds invading the farm and our gang.
I was all, "Cool. New cast members." Then that happened. Ha. I honestly wasn't sure which way it was going to go. It would've been nice for the show to get some new blood, but the "new" Rick seems to know what he has to be now.


Well, doesn't the smell of blood attract walkers?   You'd thin that bar would start crawling with them soon

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post #252 of 480
2/12/12 at 11:44pm
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Originally Posted by Adam Lenhardt View Post

Generally, I thought this was one of the better episodes. The ending, in particular, was electric. The only thing I call BS on is Lori's car crash. With all of the completely plausible ways for someone to sustain a life-threatening injury in this universe, having her drive off to fetch Rick when he'd only been gone an hour or two isn't justifiable.

Exactly - I saw Olive Oil take off and went "What the hell is wrong with her?"

Rick has been gone half an hour before she's sending Daryl to bring back Rick. What did she think Rick went to do? He told her he was bringing back Hershel. The only reason for her to do that (and then have a convenient car wreck) is because the writers wanted to put her in peril and they couldn't come up with a valid way to do it.

That's pretty sad in a television program about zombies.

So what I'm wondering - since in zombie flicks, the real enemy is not the the flesh eating ghouls, but Man drive to the brink, will this encounter in the bar convince Hershel of the value of allowing the others to stay at the farm or does it convince him that Rick and the others are just a broken on the inside and need to move on?
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post #253 of 480
2/13/12 at 6:40am
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Originally Posted by TravisR View Post

Yeah, I've started getting worried when I like an episode because it means I'll dislike the next one since the quality of the show greatly varies week to week.
That scenes in the bar were very good. I like that Rick keeps showing that he can do what needs to be done in order to survive in their world and do it without losing his humanity (like Shane).
As an aside, I'm from outside Philadelphia and I think Micahel Raymond-James got the accent down pat.


He seems to really excel at doing accents.  He grew up in suburban Detroit in case you need a point of reference for his real voice. :)
 

 

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post #254 of 480
2/13/12 at 8:04am
When I saw the title of the episode, I was worried it was going to be a "road-trip-to-Nebraska"-type thing -- instead, we got something which kept the premise of, "Zombies-aren't-the-ones-you-should-be-afraid-of."

I felt like the tension and power of the ending was earned, moreso than before this past season. It felt like the episode had purpose and movement, and the triple-ending of the showdown in the bar, Lori's accident, and the burning of the walkers slammed home in a really great way. I also really enjoyed the discussion of other rumored safe-havens, and how they pretty much always turn out to be bullshit.

Glenn's paralysis during the shootout seemed perfectly in character -- he's not a gunman, and we first met him as someone who flees from the walkers, not mows them down. He might've gotten himself killed if he'd drawn on the fat guy.

The best part of the scene in the bar was how they showed Rick on constant guard throughout. Everything he said was a deflection, and his eyes were constantly tracking both men. His reaction to the fat guy pissing on the floor wasn't so much disgust, as it was reluctant acceptance.

When they moved to surround him, he not only moved his hand to his gun, but he positioned himself so that Fat Tony's reflection was visible in the bar-mirror. It made his badass double-kill completely believable, as we'd seen him lining up that very shot for the past 15 seconds or so.

Really well done.
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post #255 of 480
2/13/12 at 8:30am
Rick's a total pro. He walks the walk, whereas Shane mostly talks the talk. Shane makes decisions out of fear, on instinct. Rick strategizes, and takes action very deliberately.
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post #256 of 480
2/13/12 at 9:09am
Also, another exciting development in this episode: T-Dogg had lines and did stuff.

Possibly my favorite part of the bar-scene was how Hershel subtly came to Rick's side. First they were having a fundamental argument, then once a greater threat reveals itself, Hershel goes from impartial basket-case to standing fast with Rick.

That whole scene was written and executed beautifully, with a LOT of nonverbal shit going on, and not ridiculously spoon-fed to the viewer.
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post #257 of 480
2/13/12 at 9:55am
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Well, doesn't the smell of blood attract walkers?   You'd thin that bar would start crawling with them soon

I could be wrong but I don't think the smell of blood would have an effect on the walkers at all since so many of them are bloody. The noise of the gun shots might attract some though.
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post #258 of 480
2/13/12 at 10:52am
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I could be wrong but I don't think the smell of blood would have an effect on the walkers at all since so many of them are bloody. The noise of the gun shots might attract some though.


I thought that was the whole reason why they covered themselves with walker blood in season 1, because otherwise the walkers would smell them.  OK,  I may have to re-check that

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post #259 of 480
2/13/12 at 10:54am
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I thought that was the whole reason why they covered themselves with walker blood in season 1, because otherwise the walkers would smell them.  OK,  I may have to re-check that

I haven't seen the S1 episodes since they aired (in other words, I could be wrong) but I thought the blood was to mask their living human smell and make the walkers smell them as just another walker.
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post #260 of 480
2/13/12 at 11:02am
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Originally Posted by joshEH View Post

Holy shit, that ending. Rick goes into total-badass mode...and we're spared a long, dragged-out plot of bad seeds invading the farm and our gang.
I was all, "Cool. New cast members." Then that happened. Ha. I honestly wasn't sure which way it was going to go. It would've been nice for the show to get some new blood, but the "new" Rick seems to know what he has to be now.

Yup. The ending in the bar made me happy. Rick is the man. The two strangers were super shady, and to be honest the shootout scene feels like something right out of the comics. As a matter of fact I think its about as close the series has been to the comic books since it startred.
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post #261 of 480
2/13/12 at 1:07pm
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I don't know if Rick knows about that housing development, but he should have claimed they had been holed up there until they were overrun and they were just at the bar getting their bearings. Britt got a cool role, but I wish he could have stuck around longer.
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post #262 of 480
2/13/12 at 1:37pm
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Originally Posted by Greg_S_H View Post

Britt got a cool role, but I wish he could have stuck around longer.

When he came onscreen, I immediately assumed he'd have a few episode arc at least so I was even more surprised when he got shot.

First they got rid of Pruitt Taylor Vince and now Michael-Raymond James. Cool character actors with three names can't catch a break on this show. smile.gif
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post #263 of 480
2/13/12 at 2:50pm
Tiny part of me hopes they get Pruitt Taylor Vince to somehow return as a zombie for Shane's big death-scene. Can you imagine what Nicotero could do with his eyes? (Speaking of, congrats to KNB also for Laurie Holden's horrifyingly-realistic, manly Stallone-esque forearm veins at the start of the show.).

As for Lori in the car...you know, at first, I thought her decision to go after Rick and Glenn was incredibly ill-advised last night, but in retrospect, it all makes sense -- she knew that her husband and his pal would waste precious time while Hershel knocked back a few, and that she'd have to go drag 'em home.

Yet, Rick taking his time to talk to Hershel at the bar might have been imprudent, but it was perfectly within character. He's the peacemaker, and truly prefers harmony and empathy. Maybe he should've hurried...but him not forcing Hershel to come along immediately was very consistent with what we've seen of him.

Finally, I'd like to nominate Michael Raymond-James for the part of Larry Underwood, should Ben Affleck ever get around to making The Stand.
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post #264 of 480
2/13/12 at 3:14pm

I though it was the usual filler snooze fest up until the bar scene. Also agree that the car crash was beyond ridiculous.

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post #265 of 480
2/13/12 at 4:06pm
Thread Starter 
That whole thing was WTF. "Honey, I'm off to find Herschel!" "Daryl, go find Herschel." It was a clumsy way to get that dialog out of Daryl and the unnecessary car crash.
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post #266 of 480
2/13/12 at 5:45pm

Yea the crash seemed silly, especially as Lori is alway on Ricks ass about him rushing off.

 

About the gunshots,  Im betting on the herd hearing the shots from the barn massacre, and changing coarse - for Hershels farm!

 

I though the bar scene was very well done, and loved seeing Rick go into quickdraw mode. Cool.

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post #267 of 480
2/20/12 at 12:37pm
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Reedus is being completed wasted now. From breakout star to angry guy who isn't really a part of anything. I guess there are enough alpha dogs between Rick and Shane.
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post #268 of 480
2/20/12 at 1:06pm
^ He's just on the back burner while the Rick/Shane rivalry heats up.

I was ready to quit the show, I felt so jerked around by the resolution of the Sophia plot, but the last couple episodes feel like they're getting back on track. The stuff in the bar from both episodes was great television. And the stuff that's not working isn't fundamental to the show; once they pick up and leave the farm, a lot of my problems should leave with them.
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post #269 of 480
2/20/12 at 1:45pm

Love the continuity on the show. Last week the bar shooting occurred around mid-afternoon. Last night when viewed from the street the shots occurred during the night, not even dusk.

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post #270 of 480
2/20/12 at 2:01pm
Some nice work from Scott Wilson this week. Loved his horrified reaction as he watched the guy that he shot down get eaten alive. Also loved him asserting himself, and telling Shane to fuck off.

I actually cheered when he did that. It's about fricking time. Fun to see Scott Wilson with a bit of life in him. "Oh, I know how to shoot, I just don't like to."

Loved the zombies eating that guy's face, also the zombie tearing his own skin off trying to get in the car. Great episode for me; full of tension -- just loved it. Glenn behaved like a moron when he got back to his girl, but these writers don't really understand human relationships very well, and I'm okay with that.

(So now Lori's Lady Macbeth? That actress has to be in a constant state of WTF.)

I hate to criticize the extended farm storyline, since it was essentially brought on by external network politics and what-have-you, but it has dragged this season down a bit, for better or for worse. Everyone would rather see Rick and Co. duke it out with zombies or other humans in that town, and not just watch them chill out at the farm.

In a way, the farm has become the DHARMA hatch from Lost. It provides relative comfort, has food and electricity, clean beds, medicines, etc. Even though the survivors are roughing it up in the field, they still have the safety of the farm to fall back on.
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