Fall iPhone refresh speculation

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Originally Posted by Steve_Tk 

I heard a rumor a while back of a possible larger screen, but seems those have died down. Would love a 4" screen to match the Androids out there.
 

Actually, 4" wouldn't quite match the many of the Android phones.
 

I really want a bigger screen. For a time, I was seriously considering an iPad but after thinking about it, what I really want is just a phone with a larger screen. From what I have seen of Android hardware, I think I would love a phone with a screen in the 4.5" to 5" range.

Personally, I don't think we are going to see a larger screen and if that does turn out to be the case, I will be sorely tempted to switch to an Android phone. If a new iPhone model does bump up to 4", it would make leaving iOS a little harder. I am not sure what I would do in that scenario. Guess we will find out soon.

-Keith

Sam, just so I can say this now, and you can laugh.. the organization I'm with now.. last year: 700+ Blackberries.   We have now switched almost all over to iPhones.. perk: I get an iPhone5 the day it ships.. and a few hundred iPhones has actually provided some cool perks.   We turn off BES end of the week

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Originally Posted by mattCR 

Sam, just so I can say this now, and you can laugh.. the organization I'm with now.. last year: 700+ Blackberries.   We have now switched almost all over to iPhones.. perk: I get an iPhone5 the day it ships.. and a few hundred iPhones has actually provided some cool perks.   We turn off BES end of the week

If people aren't reading up on Harakiri techniques at RIM HQ, they'd better start, soon.  Certainly I don't see anyone getting a new Blackberry in my office -- people are getting iPhones or Androids when they need to a new phone.  RIght now they are being kept in business by BBM using teenagers -- once iOS 5 hits with iMessage, they will be in for even more hurt.

Thing is, I strongly prefer the physical keyboard.. strongly prefer it.   But after playing with the new BB's, I can understand the issues.. they are just getting farther behind the game.   I'm frustrated by the no physical keyboard, but other issues hold that.   My next personal phone will probably be a WP7 because of the ability to grab a keyboarded model.. but right now, Android and BB are just turning into platforms I can't consider.  And I say this as a LONG time Blackberry Zealot.  I've owned a blackberry since the text-only series; so..
 

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Originally Posted by Ted Todorov 

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If people aren't reading up on Harakiri techniques at RIM HQ, they'd better start, soon.  Certainly I don't see anyone getting a new Blackberry in my office -- people are getting iPhones or Androids when they need to a new phone.  RIght now they are being kept in business by BBM using teenagers -- once iOS 5 hits with iMessage, they will be in for even more hurt.

 

 

 

 

One new phone would be the Apple way -- don't confuse the customers.  Of course the iPhone 4 will become the new low price/free with subsidy phone.

There are two things that especially interest me:

Will the iPhone 5 be offered factory unlocked (at full unsubsidized price) in the USA from the get go?  

How will iCloud handle multiple MobileMe accounts sharing one AppeID for Apps/Media?  My wife and I each have our separate MobileMe account (and want to keep it that way -- I wouldn't want her calendars and photo-stream and vice versa.  On the other hand we use my AppleID for all our app/media purchases (for obvious reasons).  I've heard all sort of talk about multiple AppleIDs, but we have the opposite problem, and can't be alone.

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Originally Posted by Steve_Tk 

So what does the "1" on the phone mean? Could mean they will indtroduce one new phone? The other clues seem to be self explanatory.

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Originally Posted by mattCR 

Thing is, I strongly prefer the physical keyboard.. strongly prefer it.   But after playing with the new BB's, I can understand the issues.. they are just getting farther behind the game.   I'm frustrated by the no physical keyboard, but other issues hold that.   My next personal phone will probably be a WP7 because of the ability to grab a keyboarded model.. but right now, Android and BB are just turning into platforms I can't consider.  And I say this as a LONG time Blackberry Zealot.  I've owned a blackberry since the text-only series; so..
 

How long have you used the iPhone's virtual keyboard? You will improve. But, yes -- if you want a physical keyboard Android or WP7 are your only choices. There will never be an iPhone with a physical keyboard.

Personally I have a very strong preference for the virtual keyboard which allows me to type in four different languages -- indeed when using Cyrillic I will go virtual rather than use my Mac's physical keyboard as seeing which key is which letter makes for much faster going.

My guess on RIM's future:  They will be bought then WebOSed* by someone in need of a mobile solution like Dell -- unless Dell ditches the consumer/client PC space and sticks to servers/services -- basically the HP plan of a week ago...

*If people aren't buying RIM BlackBerries they sure as heck aren't going to be buying Dell BlackBerries...

I've used my iPod touch (current gen) since it came out; and the touches for a while.  Here's the thing.. I can type on a blackberry with it by my side and without looking at it one handed and rarely error.   That's almost impossible on a screen keyboard.   There are other benefits that way.  I don't find the Apple keyboard -bad- it's one of the better touch screen ones.    Autocorrect sucks, and the fact I can't seem to get multiple signatures for multiple mail accounts is a real bitch.. if they allow for a signature per account in the next gen, that's the feature I desperately need.
 

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Originally Posted by Ted Todorov 

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How long have you used the iPhone's virtual keyboard? You will improve. But, yes -- if you want a physical keyboard Android or WP7 are your only choices. There will never be an iPhone with a physical keyboard.

 

Personally I have a very strong preference for the virtual keyboard which allows me to type in four different languages -- indeed when using Cyrillic I will go virtual rather than use my Mac's physical keyboard as seeing which key is which letter makes for much faster going.

 

My guess on RIM's future:  They will be bought then WebOSed* by someone in need of a mobile solution like Dell -- unless Dell ditches the consumer/client PC space and sticks to servers/services -- basically the HP plan of a week ago...

 

*If people aren't buying RIM BlackBerries they sure as heck aren't going to be buying Dell BlackBerries...

It should be in the mobile devices though; because that's the way search and new users will look.  I get that it's an Apple device, but if we did that, would we discuss Windows tablets in PC? 

It should stay in mobile; even if you're comfortable with going with just that forum, it also gets you into other ones you haven't visited as much and that's always good for the health of the whole ;)

And I get that.. but it does devalue the purpose of having an entire forum if we create one for mobile and phone devices and leave out certain (large market) mobile and phone devices.   It's bad logic.   Because it was done in the past doesn't mean it's right.. if it moves back, it moves back, but really, it makes it pointless to have a forum for phones if we remove phones from it ;)

It's going to take some sorting out.     I get your point.. but this forum is specifically "Mobile Phones"... so it's hard to seperate out phones in different groups; could we post about WP7 in the PC/HTPC forum since they share with XBOX and are MS devices?   And so on.. maybe the powers that be will move these back; but part of what makes things work is also to make sure all areas of a forum get traffic, and if they don't they go away.   So an area designed for phones as it's first calling, right in the name, should carry phones..  ;)  JMHO, and I'm glad to be upended if that's decided against.
 

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Originally Posted by Sam Posten 

So should iPad threads be in this forum too?

Can you guess how I would answer that?

That's the problem with using rigid hierarchies to categorize multi-dimensional items :) There's never a perfect fit. It's a long-standing problem for me with Windows and its crappy shortcuts.

iPhone 4S vs iPhone 5? I still don't understand that issue. If it has a new body, A5, more RAM, 8 MP camera is it an 4S or a 5? If that's a 4S, then why isn't the new iPad a 1S?

I'm guessing no 4G / LTE this year, but we'll see a refresh in six months when AT&T has built out their 4G network more.

There also aren't a lot of iPad comments here, but plenty of iPhone VS. threads here... so when people search (like google/not here) who aren't familiar, this willl look to be the place.   I'm still mulling this.. it's fragment an Apple device or make this category one with tons of exceptions ;)

 

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Originally Posted by Sam Posten 


It's actually Mobile Phones and Entertainment. I'd say the iPad is clearly in the mobile entertainment arena, but that would go against my argument that it belongs more in the Apple Forum =)

I still don't know what "Mobile Phones / Entertainment" means. What is the "entertainment" category that relates to "mobile phones"?

I'm not opposed to a "smartphone" or "appphone" category. And given the pending Kindles and Kindle Fires, perhaps there should be a separate "Tablet-y / Kindle-y / iPad-y" category forum.

But too many categories is as bad as the wrong ones: Maybe re-org it all into "Conventional Computing" (Windows, Chrome, Mac, HTPC) and "Post PC Computing" (smartphones, iPads, Kindles) :)

Yeah, there has been talk about pulling HTPC out altogether and put it up with things like Receivers, etc.. Adam ran a poll on it a while back; that may be fitting because stuff like Media Center which dominates the Wndows forum doesn't flow with the other "this program sucks" or "I need help with X" stuff that goes there.

Maybe pull HTPC, Unify the two computer camps "Desktop and Laptops" kind of category, then a category for all smartphones/portables.  

I don't know.  Lots of thought there.