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Maybe the machine caught that he intended to kill someone but not that it was a Congressmen? Although I'm not sure that that idea stands up to scrutiny.


The PoI was a 'victim', in that he was to be framed for the Congressman's assassination, and later killed as the 'patsy' to end further investigations.  Much as conspiracy theorists would say that Lee Harvey Oswald was the patsy and didn't actually do it.

 

So the Machine should indeed have caught that the Congressman was a direct target himself as well, whether as a "relevant" case to be given to the Feds, or an "irrelevant" case that got leaked to Finch.  Unless the Machine simplified it into the actual PoI only?

 

post #122 of 218
The kid this week really weighed things down. Not a good actor, and not an especially well written part. Enjoyed the subplot with Harold's late partner's son poking around about the Machine.

I also enjoyed that he spent the episode putting together new hardware and reinstalling everything after the events of last week. Most shows just assume that the fallout was taken care of between episodes. I like that the events of one episode always bleed into the next on this show.
post #123 of 218
That kid was the arrogant little prick on Simon Cowell's new show. Since this probably was filmed a while back and that ended in late December, and he was on it a while, it looks like another case of "contestant who just walked in off the street = bullshit." No wonder they let him act like a jerk, since he was being promoted until America said no.
post #124 of 218
The kid bothered me quite a bit, I didn't like their dialog with Reece explaning the process throughtout the episode. Other than that I thought the episode was really good, I love the bits and pieces we get of Harolds background and The Machine knowing it was hacked.
post #125 of 218

Each week the ratings for this show becomes greater than its previous high. 

post #126 of 218
Bad choice on my part, but only so much time available. I decided to go for Unforgettable which is close to the chopping block.

Wish I'd chosen this instead. Read a few bad reviews early on and figured it wouldn't do so well. Wrong.

Hope it shows up in repeats so I can catch up from the 4-5 episodes I watched last fall.
post #127 of 218
Overall, I enjoyed the episode 'Wolf and Cub'. The kid didn't do a lot for me either way; just okay. I liked that the episode continued to mine its comic book sensibilities by touching upon the nature of heroism. The martial arts aspect of the show in terms of the title, the references to ronin, etc. were okay but were geared towards 'mainstream' recognition so they didn't exactly wow me.

Liked the development of the series in terms of Harold's backstory. Makes me wonder how many more avian references, if any, we will see during the series (Harold Raven?, Harold Crow?, Harold Martin?, Harold Starling?, etc., etc.) Curious to see where the final shot of the episode goes in terms of the Machine and Reese.

- Walter.
post #128 of 218

I wouldn't worry too much about Unforgettable. It's holding its own and winning its time slot most weeks. I don't think the chopping block is imminent though CBS may move it next season if they get something else for Tuesday night at 10.

post #129 of 218
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I wouldn't worry too much about Unforgettable. It's holding its own and winning its time slot most weeks. I don't think the chopping block is imminent though CBS may move it next season if they get something else for Tuesday night at 10.

Thanks for the info. As for the sites I'm looking at, unless it's incredibly awful, it's mainly speculation anyways. Better that I just enjoy what I like and wait for the official word from the networks.
post #130 of 218
Tonight's episode got a lot done in 4? minutes. Some have written here that they would not stay with the show if they only did the person of the week to save. Why not if it's this well written and entertains and the characters all play off each other so well? Anyway, there are lots of side stories and intrigue going on so I hope most of you are enjoying this as I am. This is the first network show I've made an effort not to miss (other than 24) in many years.

Tonight's episode was good but I am one who hopes it doesn't go too far off the track with fighting the CIA and our evil government. I imagine we'll be in for a bunch of reruns after next week. The Wall Street story should be fun.
post #131 of 218

I really enjoyed it, too, except for the trite saving of Fusco at the last second (not that I wanted to lose him as a character; I just wish the writers could have dreamed up something else). There were multiple stories at play, and I loved the complexity of it. And slowly getting the backstories of our protagonists is also quite fascinating and most enjoyable.

post #132 of 218
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I really enjoyed it, too, except for the trite saving of Fusco at the last second (not that I wanted to lose him as a character; I just wish the writers could have dreamed up something else).

I would agree, but I think the writers may have at least acknowledged this with Fusco's line "... cutting it kind of close aren't you?" to Reese. I really am enjoying the back stories and how they interweave and Reese's interaction with Carter. Curious to see what Agent Snow does with the information that LOS provided at the end of the episode.

- Walter.
post #133 of 218
Fusco's probably the most interesting character on the show.
post #134 of 218
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Fusco's probably the most interesting character on the show.

I wouldn't disagree with that statement. Despite the choices his character has made in the past; I have to admit that I felt a wave of empathy for Fusco at the end of the episode.

- Walter.
post #135 of 218

I have to say that I LOVE seeing these shows shot in New York City, seeing many wonderful stage actors even in relatively small roles. Three-time Tony nominee Michael Berresse played LOS last night, and it's always a pleasure seeing him.

post #136 of 218
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I have to say that I LOVE seeing these shows shot in New York City, seeing many wonderful stage actors even in relatively small roles. Three-time Tony nominee Michael Berresse played LOS last night, and it's always a pleasure seeing him.


I agree. I love the fact that Person and Unforgettable are filmed in NYC. I hate when shows are filmed on lots and in cities different than they are supposed to be. I really wish the CSI's were filmed in their prospective cities. First you have CSI:NY using too many city street lot sets and they would show a house that looked like it belongs in the suburbs as part of Manhattan or Brooklyn. Then on CSI:Miami they had a scene where you see mountains in the background....no mountains anywhere near Miami.
post #137 of 218
This show is running like clockwork now. They do a good job of keeping the larger mythological elements, like the Machine and Elias, floating in the background without them ever overwhelming the show. I thought the PoI of the week was one of the better ones, too; there's nothing terribly sympathetic about Wall Street bankers at the moment, but they created one who is sympathetic. At the same time, we got more of a glimpse into Reese's life when he was down and out, and another bird alias for Harold.

So happy this one is a virtual lock for renewal. It's the rare show that's trended up since its pilot.
post #138 of 218

I agree completely, Adam. The show has evolved into one of the must-see events for me each week. My fears of it becoming just another procedural were groundless as they've walked the tightrope of multiple characters, background story arcs, and case-of-the-week stories masterfully. I especially like the idea of keeping Carter and Fusco from knowing that each is helping them: this has been an especially brilliant touch.

post #139 of 218
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I agree completely, Adam. The show has evolved into one of the must-see events for me each week. My fears of it becoming just another procedural were groundless as they've walked the tightrope of multiple characters, background story arcs, and case-of-the-week stories masterfully. I especially like the idea of keeping Carter and Fusco from knowing that each is helping them: this has been an especially brilliant touch.



Yes, some misgivings expressed earlier in this thread have apparently been for naught.

 

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post #141 of 218

The show's ratings have risen with its increased quality over the course of the series. Nice to see their efforts rewarded with an increasing audience.

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I just read the list in Variety of the 18 series that CBS has renewed. I couldn't be happier about this one or The Good Wife.

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Officially renewed for a second season

 

Not surprising as it was #4 last week in ratings only behind American Idol and The Voice.  Also, it's ratings for 18-49 has steadily rose throughout the year.

post #145 of 218

For the first time in quite a while with this show, I was two steps ahead of the writers with the surprises this week.

post #146 of 218
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For the first time in quite a while with this show, I was two steps ahead of the writers with the surprises this week.
Me too, but only because I've been expecting an identity theft episode for a while now. And once you set up that dynamic, there are only two ways to play it: the identity thief is who they think it is, or it's the other person.

Even when the episodic story doesn't keep me on the edge of my seat, I still find myself involved in the episode because of the character work. More than most procedurals, they've taken very deliberate steps to grow these characters over the course of the season. I loved that scene near the end, where Reese asks Fusco which he prefers, good cop or bad cop. Part of that's because Reese isn't sure whether he'll be able to get Carter back fulfilling the good cop role. But part of it is because Fusco's earned it.

Seeing his transformation from someone who was blackmailed to someone who's doing it to satisfy something within himself has been one of the great pleasures of this show. I was very glad he got his win at the end, keeping true to his promise and getting the more meaningful victory.

The FBI scenes were useful in making more or less the same point about Reese; without Finch stepping in when he did, Reese would have ended up dead or a monster. I think Reese is grateful.

Maybe that's why he didn't press his advantage with Finch at the end, when he could have probably heard about any one of Finch's many secrets. There's a loyalty there that's really admirable.
post #147 of 218

I really love the balancing act they're doing with Carter and Fusco. It's one of the series' most admirable traits.

post #148 of 218
I kinda of feel bad for Fusco... Reese still treats him like crap.
post #149 of 218
I've often thought that, but remember . . . he was taking Reese to the middle of nowhere to kill him. He'd still be doing that if Reese hadn't gone all black ops on his ass.
post #150 of 218
I think Reese notices the change in Fusco over their time working together but at the same time, Reese is not a very warm guy and he's not really a forgive and forget type of guy either so I think that's why he and Fusco aren't going out for post-mission beers. smile.gif
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