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"I wish there was a word to describe the pleasure I feel at viewing misfortune."

Seriously, name me a show that does a joke like that. There have to be, like, five different variables in place for someone to actually get this.

So good. There have, in fact, been good Shirley episodes and moments, but she's the least geek-friendly character on the show, so she tends to get overshadowed. This kind of episode is exactly why shows should push at things that seem like they're not working.

Something that I missed that was pointed out in the AV Club's comments: when Troy leaves his sheet fort, humming his little song...and "locks" the sheet behind him.

Also, how is this NOT everyone's avatar by now...??

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(The cat should have been wearing a monocle, though. Serious missed opportunity.)

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If there really is a point of diminishing returns on sexiness, I don't think they came close to it.
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^ That scene was great but it got too creepy for me at the very end, when Annie was only speaking in baby talk.
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^ That scene was great but it got too creepy for me at the very end, when Annie was only speaking in baby talk.
Oh, right. I guess that was the point of Jeff's comment. I must have been caught up in the moment. smile.gif
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Man oh man was Christmas Annie looking fantabulous! I was certainly not expecting that.

 

Also, I have to ask but does Dan Harmon not like Glee??  I've seen them poke fun at the show before but I'm not sure if it's because of a dislike or if he's paying respect.

 

Oh, and the Abed/Troy JW rap was freaking awesome!

 

 

"What the hell are regionals?" LOL!

 

 

 


Edited by spshultz - 12/9/11 at 7:01am
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that episode was really good and YES Christmas Annie was smoking hot.

 

Since I really dislike Glee it was a bonus for me all the way around.

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I forgot I wanted to give a shout out to the clip from the "Inspector Spacetime Holiday Special." If you are familiar with the "Star Wars Holiday Special," it should have immediately conjured up visions of Jefferson Starship dancing in your head.
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that episode was really good and YES Christmas Annie was smoking hot.

Since I really dislike Glee it was a bonus for me all the way around.

Same here.
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I loved the allusion to the 70's version of Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
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Dear God, did something happen in this episode? All I can remember is Brie and Jacobs, and my head exploding about a thousand times.

New Rule™ (with apologies to Bill Maher): Gillian Jacobs has to wear that unitard in every single episode from here on out. Watching this episode was like having Alison Brie and Gillian Jacobs enter into a sexy tug-of-war...with my penis. Britta in that tree-outfit. Jesus Christ. Holy shit.

"MAYBE THERE NEEDS TO BE ANOTHER BUS CRASH!!!"

No exaggeration, that's the hardest I've laughed all year. I will bathe in NBC's blood if this show does not both return, and then have another season.

Troy's Dylanesque '60s-voice was fantastic. Also: "This guy is like human froyo."

"What's a diminuhnuhnuhnuh?" made me pause the DVR, I was laughing so hard.

The highlight, though, had to be the "bump" at the end, with the Dean, Chang, and the others, and Chang's ornament getting clawed/molested by the monkey-paw.

If you weren't already in love with Alison Brie, I don't see how you could not be after that musical number. Brie has officially driven a stake right through Madonna's "Santa Baby," now and forever. And yeah, she was totally riffing on Lea Michele's singing style at the same time. This episode fired all cylinders so hard, the engine exploded.
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that episode was really good and YES Christmas Annie was smoking hot.

Since I really dislike Glee it was a bonus for me all the way around.
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Same here.

Here too. In all fairness, I haven't seen that many episodes of Glee but the ones I have watched are so objectionable to me that I have no desire to see more so I love seeing someone mock it.

Also, I thought Tory and Abed's rap actually sounded pretty good.
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Also, I have to ask but does Dan Harmon not like Glee?? I've seen them poke fun at the show before but I'm not sure if it's because of a dislike or if he's paying respect.

Oh...there's definitely dislike going on, here. Just Google, "Dan Harmon Hates Glee" for more info.

Here's a response Harmon posted on Reddit last year, re: the final fate of Greendale's original glee-club (alluded to slightly differently last night, which just shows how far in advance some of these storylines are conceptualized/stored away):

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Q: Glee club dying (in a flashback from the last episode) -- wish of the death of Glee the TV show?

Dan: I have no idea what you mean. There was a glee club at Greendale, and their bus was driving on a rainy night, and a downed power line was hanging across the road, and the bus drove through it, and it sliced through the bus and decapitated everyone, row by row, so that the people in the back had to watch all their friends get decapitated, then they got decapitated, and then the bus drove into a pool of lava. And I guess the crazy thing is, the electricity from the power line somehow kept their nervous systems "alive," so they could feel the lava. They didn't escape the pain of the lava just because they didn't have heads. They felt the lava. It was terrible, but it was not metaphorical in any way. I would never be that petty and envious of another show's popularity.

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If you weren't already in love with Alison Brie, I don't see how you could not be after that musical number. Brie has officially driven a stake right through Madonna's "Santa Baby," now and forever. And yeah, she was totally riffing on Lea Michele's singing style at the same time. This episode fired all cylinders so hard, the engine exploded.



Some of this years episodes haven't resonated with me as much as the last two seasons, but this one was a home run!

 

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I loved the Dean's disappointed, "...Aw, Britta's in this."

"Fake butter, AIDS, and Twin Peaks" had me laughing so hard, I had to pause the episode. Nothing speaks more to the talent of the performers and writers and director than the two musical numbers done by Troy and Abed. Completely different in style, and yet both note-perfect and hysterical.

Also, 1.5 in the overnights. So...that sucks.

For those who don't follow Twitter, earlier today from Dan Harmon:

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"We can't even get Horrible Ratings Comfort Beverages because Glee is shooting in our coffee shop. #BestServedPipingHot"

This show brings out the elitist asshole in me. I might as well embrace this fact, and just stew in my contempt of the mouth-breathing masses, the shallow-minded, superficial morons who queue up every week to be stuffed with repetitive, predictable, pandering tripe, while leaving one of the greatest comedies of all time floundering on the precipice of cancellation.

Fuck you. I hope you die like the dogs you are.
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1.5? The last 4 episodes this year may have been the most original and consistently funny of this outrageously original and funny show! I don't get it. You can't GET this anywhere else on TV!
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This show brings out the elitist asshole in me. I might as well embrace this fact, and just stew in my contempt of the mouth-breathing masses, the shallow-minded, superficial morons who queue up every week to be stuffed with repetitive, predictable, pandering tripe, while leaving one of the greatest comedies of all time floundering on the precipice of cancellation.
Fuck you. I hope you die like the dogs you are.



Your constant, baffling, shitting-on of other shows and their fans (Glee, BBT, et cetera) is getting *very old.*  It's funny when Harmon et al. do it, but it's simply annoying when you do it.  It doesn't prove you're an elitist: it proves you're...something else.

 

Community is the funniest show on TV; can't we just leave it at that?

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Ah... reminds me of all the gnashing of virtual teeth when Arrested Development finally got canceled after 3 seasons...
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Ah... reminds me of all the gnashing of virtual teeth when Arrested Development finally got canceled after 3 seasons...

Yeah...it will probably be similar. So...maybe a Community movie in 5 years? smile.gif
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doesn't help the ratings when local stations like my nbc decides to play a local college basketball game from 7-9 and show the other shows at 2 am.
i wonder how many watch online though, thats how i watch it now since i lost my dvr, i'd imagine those numbers are huge
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i wonder how many watch online though, thats how i watch it now since i lost my dvr, i'd imagine those numbers are huge

I imagine that those numbers, critical praise, DVD sales and NBC being in the ratings toilet are what got Community to a second (let alone third) year. Too bad none of those things mean much to advertisers who want people to see their ads.
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Your constant, baffling, shitting-on of other shows and their fans (Glee, BBT, et cetera) is getting *very old.*  It's funny when Harmon et al. do it, but it's simply annoying when you do it.  It doesn't prove you're an elitist: it proves you're...something else.

Whoa, dude...hold on a minute. "Old"?

It's been probably over a year (or longer) since I've made any type of disparaging comment about either of those shows you mention. I think I've been on my best behavior, here, and you're reading way too much into things. Too, I never mentioned BBT in my post, nor was I even thinking about it specifically (as far as I can remember) when I typed it.

It's simply the fact that Community finally devoted an entire episode to accurately showing us why Glee doesn't work creatively (IMO) that I finally even said anything again. Frankly, to not have made the inevitable personal opinion-comparison (I respect anyone who likes Glee, for the record) would've been the odd behavior, given the situation and the plot of the episode currently under discussion.

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I imagine that those numbers, critical praise, DVD sales and NBC being in the ratings toilet are what got Community to a second (let alone third) year. Too bad none of those things mean much to advertisers who want people to see their ads.

I was wondering recently:

Would this show have done as well or better in a different broadcast climate? Like '90s NBC. Or on FX? Virtually all of my favorite comedies are now coming from non-broadcast-network places. I don't want this show to go away, and I've talked it up as much as possible to the point my friends are either onboard, or no longer my friends.

'90s NBC would have made the show a hit, but it would never have been made then, and outside of HBO (which just doesn't do sitcom -- maybe their new Veep will change that), nothing other than U.S. network TV could afford to make the show. Not just in terms of scope, but also the cast -- you'd only be able to have about half the number of regulars and supporting characters that the show now boasts.

If Community never comes back (it will, if only because NBC sucks at so hard at so much else), it ended on a perfect note: by making me desperately want to have sex with foliage and particularly-unintelligent babies. I haven't wanted to plug my penis into a tree this bad since Avatar.
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Would this show have done as well or better in a different broadcast climate? Like '90s NBC. Or on FX?

I said it before but I think Community would be the wet dream of a cable channel like FX or AMC or even HBO. It's relatively inexpensive (or could be done that way), it has numbers that are shamefully low for a network but that would be pretty decent for cable and it has a dedicated enough audience that would follow it to cable. NBC could announce Community's cancellation tomorrow and I wouldn't really care because I'd be convinced that it would be on a cable channel by this time next year. *Flashforward to 2023 and I'm sitting in a corner holding Community DVDs and rocking back and forth saying "No, no, no FX will bring it back. They have to. They have to."*

As for Community working before, I don't think it would have ever been popular enough to be a hit on a network. It's like Firefly or Arrested Development or Fringe, it's a show that only appeals to a small audience and while that group loves the show, all the promotion or good timeslots in the world would never make the average person tune in to it.
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It is a tragedy that people watch shit like Big Bang Theory over this.



 

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Whoa, dude...hold on a minute. "Old"?
It's been probably over a year (or longer) since I've made any type of disparaging comment about either of those shows you mention. I think I've been on my best behavior, here, and you're reading way too much into things. Too, I never mentioned BBT in my post, nor was I even thinking about it specifically (as far as I can remember) when I typed it.
It's simply the fact that Community finally devoted an entire episode to accurately showing us why Glee doesn't work creatively (IMO) that I finally even said anything again. Frankly, to not have made the inevitable personal opinion-comparison (I respect anyone who likes Glee, for the record) would've been the odd behavior, given the situation and the plot of the episode currently under discussion.
 



 

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I might as well embrace this fact, and just stew in my contempt of the mouth-breathing masses, the shallow-minded, superficial morons who queue up every week to be stuffed with repetitive, predictable, pandering tripe, while leaving one of the greatest comedies of all time floundering on the precipice of cancellation.
Fuck you. I hope you die like the dogs you are.

 

There.  I even colour-coded it for you.

 

I, quite simply, don't believe you weren't referencing Glee fans (and likely BBT fans) when you wrote the statement in green, such that I similarly don't believe you "respect" them.

 

The statement in red proves stands for itself.

 

Isn't there a bridge you should be playing "Skyrim" under?

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Holy shit, Josh...you're taking this way too personally. Like, what the hell? (And why the Skyrim-swipe? I play the game, sure, when I have a spare moment.) confused.gifrolleyes.gif

For the record, I was thinking more about Whitney, The X Factor, and most of the other fly-by-night sitcoms which more often than not are cancelled, but which still sometimes manage to pull larger numbers than Community during their quick runs. I don't expect you to believe it, but Big Bang isn't the first thing that always comes to mind when I make posts like this. Sometimes, yes, but not then.

Yeah, so I forgot about that quick, one-off-and-completely-dismissed Big Bang remark -- I own up to it, but I don't apologize for it either. This is a discussion forum, where a person can theoretically say, "[a show] is shit," without directly impugning any one specific person in the process.

Which is what I did, there. You don't like it, fine, but I can still speak my mind about a show, and even -- gods forbid -- call it crap once a year, without naming a single poster in this forum in the process. And as Jeff Winger (and Ryan Murphy) both put it, to imply otherwise is reverse-bullying.

I never had any personal vendetta against you, Josh -- in fact, I think you're one of the most thoughtful posters in here most of the time, and I'm honestly confused as to why you're taking this tone right now. None of that was actually aimed in your direction.
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Lol! Seriously, Dial...stick to discussing the show. If someone thinks Glee is garbage (there are a lot of us) it doesn't mean we don't like you. smile.gif
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I will immediately contact my governor or district leader, if only so that people can start dying again.

Community makes honey, people.

Also:

Community to pay homage to/spoof Law & Order:

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The story behind "Basic Lupine Urology" is as zany as you'd expect from Community: The Greendale gang must channel their inner Lennie Briscoes when someone allegedly sabotages their science experiment — the yam they're attempting to sprout is demolished! — and they decide to investigate the crime.

Once the Human Being in question is unearthed, Annie "Jack McCoy" Edison prosecutes the perp to the fullest extent of the law Greendale's Code of Conduct, with Michael K. Williams' Professor Kane acting as judge.

...Omar is back.
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And some more tidbits about upcoming episodes here.

Including an escalating, full-scale, all-school blanket-fort war.

OH MY GOD I MISS THIS SHOW PLEASE COME BACK NOW OK PLEASE OK??
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One more thing:

"The Indoor Kids" podcast from Nerdist.com, where Dan Harmon basically talks about nothing but Skyrim for an hour-and-a-half.

I'm having this man's baby. Don't ask me; we'll figure it out somehow.
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