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post #31 of 54
9/25/11 at 7:16pm

If possible, I'd love to see any info you have on MGM films of this period. I find this information and this particular era in movie history absolutely fascinating.

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post #32 of 54
9/26/11 at 5:27am
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Matt, I'll send you a note.

Bob
Edited by Bob Furmanek - 9/26/11 at 1:08pm
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post #33 of 54
2/10/12 at 3:16pm
Bob - When it comes to vintage 3D movies - do the studios like Universal and Sony/Columbia have all the elements to produce these on BluRay:


CREATURE FROM THE BLACK LAGOON
HOUSE OF WAX
SPOOKS (3 STOOGES)
PARDON MY BACKFIRE (3 STOOGES)

I would love to own these one 3D Bluray. The Stooges 3Ds have been offered on the Playstation Network - but only PARDON is available now and for a hefty price - $29.99!!

I would pay that for both SPOOKS and PARDON with commentaries etc.

I guess ultimately this is about money and not about pleasing fans. I get that. I just wish these were availalble - even in a Made on Demand model.
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post #34 of 54
2/10/12 at 3:21pm
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The original left/right elements to all four titles are in excellent shape. The only thing lost is the original 4 channel Warnerphonic stereo from HOUSE OF WAX.

Bob
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post #35 of 54
2/11/12 at 8:56am
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The original left/right elements to all four titles are in excellent shape. The only thing lost is the original 4 channel Warnerphonic stereo from HOUSE OF WAX.
Bob

Bob - thanks for that.

Are the studios interested at all in releasing the older titles on 3D - or is it just too cost prohibitive to do so even in a Made on Demand scenario - hamiltonpl (aka Dracsback from the CHFB).
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post #36 of 54
2/11/12 at 9:02am
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WB is proceeding with DIAL M and possibly WAX. So far as I know, the rest are taking a wait and see approach. If DIAL M does well, you can bet the others will start moving.

Bob
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post #37 of 54
2/11/12 at 9:45am
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WB is proceeding with DIAL M and possibly WAX.


that is the kind of news that makes my day even better!!!

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post #38 of 54
2/11/12 at 10:08am
I can't wait to see Dial M for Murder and House of Wax again in 3D. Warner, if you are listening, here is a guaranteed sale!
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post #39 of 54
2/11/12 at 10:40am

+1

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post #40 of 54
2/11/12 at 12:09pm
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WB is proceeding with DIAL M and possibly WAX. So far as I know, the rest are taking a wait and see approach. If DIAL M does well, you can bet the others will start moving.
Bob

If they do release WAX, do you think the sound will be mono, or maybe some sort of stereo sound with only the mono track and surround track available. The DVD was 2.0 stereo surround. I would think WAX would sell better than Dial M but AMAZON has Dial M ranked 8,883 vs. 20,483 sales for WAX.
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post #41 of 54
2/11/12 at 12:34pm
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If they do release WAX, do you think the sound will be mono, or maybe some sort of stereo sound with only the mono track and surround track available. The DVD was 2.0 stereo surround. I would think WAX would sell better than Dial M but AMAZON has Dial M ranked 8,883 vs. 20,483 sales for WAX.

Well either way I'm in on both of these if they are releasing them in 3D.

Will they be MOD or not?
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post #42 of 54
2/11/12 at 12:38pm
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I honestly don't know anything more other than work is proceeding on Dial M.

I would wait to see what WB and George Feltenstein have to say on this one.

Bob
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post #43 of 54
2/14/12 at 11:37am
...I did not see "Kiss Me Kate" in the above discussion...
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post #44 of 54
2/14/12 at 11:50am

As I understand it Columbia issued a number of 3-D shorts. I was told some decades there were prints in Melbourne/Australia(where I live) and that as no one seemed to want them anymore Columbia destroyed them insitu. In that period, a local independent moviehouse chain had a distribution arm called Filmways(not the US outfit) and cleared all extra prints they had of titles under distribution, keeping one of each. No 3-D in that lot, though. 

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post #45 of 54
2/14/12 at 1:48pm
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Columbia filmed a trio of 3-D shorts: Spooks, Pardon my Backfire and Down the Hatch. Thanks to the great preservation efforts of Grover Crisp at Columbia, all three have been restored and preserved.

Bob
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post #46 of 54
2/15/12 at 9:55am
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Columbia filmed a trio of 3-D shorts: Spooks, Pardon my Backfire and Down the Hatch. Thanks to the great preservation efforts of Grover Crisp at Columbia, all three have been restored and preserved.
Bob

Pardon My Backfire and The Mad Magician are available on the PS3 PlaStation Store for download, but $29.99 each is too expensive for a download. I'll wait for the Blu-ray which hopefully will come with other extras for about the same price.
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post #47 of 54
4/24/12 at 2:53pm
It's strange that the PS network offers only PARDON and no SPOOKS. Yes, $29.99 is very steep.
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post #48 of 54
4/25/12 at 12:56am
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...I did not see "Kiss Me Kate" in the above discussion...

If you mean the podcast interview with Feltenstein, Kate's mentioned as an example of the Golden Age, but nothing definite. Does Warner still own that MGM movie?
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It's strange that the PS network offers only PARDON and no SPOOKS. Yes, $29.99 is very steep.

PSN had Pardon and Spooks, but no Hatch--At one point, both disappeared, and then just Pardon returned. I'm assuming rights problems, but...?
(And hopefully, with Disney selling "Tangled Ever After" for $4.99, Sony will finally learn the difference between selling a feature and selling a short for $29.99. redface.gif )
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post #49 of 54
4/25/12 at 8:49am
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Yes, KISS ME KATE is owned by Warner Bros.

The 3-D left/right elements and stereophonic sound all survive.
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post #50 of 54
4/25/12 at 10:28pm
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Just to be clear, the correct and intended aspect ratio for KATE is 1.75:1
Edited by Bob Furmanek - 4/25/12 at 10:44pm
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post #51 of 54
4/26/12 at 5:29am

 

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Just to be clear, the correct and intended aspect ratio for KATE is 1.75:1

 

MGM released a laserdisc of Kiss Me Kate at that aspect ratio (never in 3D, of course), but no DVD has ever presented it in that ratio. I would certainly love to see it properly framed and in 3D. One day, maybe. 

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post #52 of 54
4/26/12 at 10:46am
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MGM released a laserdisc of Kiss Me Kate at that aspect ratio (never in 3D, of course), but no DVD has ever presented it in that ratio. I would certainly love to see it properly framed and in 3D. One day, maybe. 
All MGM Laserdisc releases were 1.33:1, however Turner Classic Movies has aired it in widescreen.
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post #53 of 54
4/26/12 at 11:36am
I can't believe its been almost 10 years since the DVD of Kiss Me Kate was released. I remember the problem with the first transfer - http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDCompare2/kissmekate.htm

When it was filmed, 1:37 might have been the intended ratio for 3-D. The following is a post from Bob in 2003:


Regarding the "correct" aspect ratio, I submit the following information:

From Box Office magazine of May, 1953: (parapharasing) It was filmed with MGM's own 3D camera rig at a negative aspect ratio of 1.37; however, it would be available for playdates in 3D at full Academy ratio and could be matted for 2D "flat" playdates at any of *three* aspect ratios - 1.66, 1.75, or 1.85. So, the negative would be fully exposed and the theatres would soft-matte it to whichever ratio they preferred.
Edited by RolandL - 4/26/12 at 11:51am
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post #54 of 54
4/26/12 at 11:48am
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Even that new corrected transfer is zoomed in. The film was photographed open matte, full aperture and Technicolor optically centered the image for widescreen when they made the printing elements.

MGM had gone 100% widescreen with the ratio of 1.75:1 in early April and KMK began production one month later.
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