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post #61 of 87
1/25/12 at 2:56pm
You're very welcome Matt, my pleasure.

With the print being magnetic, it is WAY past it's life expectancy!

Bob
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post #62 of 87
1/25/12 at 5:10pm
It will be interesting to see (hear) what audio mix is used on the eventual 3-D BluRay.

Bob, if I recall correctly, wasn't this also the first multi-channel soundtrack from Warner Brothers?
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post #63 of 87
1/25/12 at 5:16pm
It was not only the first stereo film from WB, it was really the first time that stereo sound was heard on a wide scale by the movie-going public. Previous multi-track releases (Fantasia, This is Cinerama) were limited to specific venues in just a few cities. WAX in Warnerphonic played most major cities around the country.
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post #64 of 87
1/25/12 at 9:07pm
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Originally Posted by Bob Furmanek View Post

(The left print contained a mono optical composite track of the entire four channels, and served as an emergency audio back-up in case the dubber went out of sync with the picture.). /quote]

If they have the mono optical which has the entire four channels, couldn't they extract the front three tracks? For dialog have the sound match where it should come from on the screen. The effects tracks the same. I know its not the original but it could be a separate selection for sound - 2.0 mono front and surround or a 4.0 derived from the mono and surround.

You mention a private collector who has a four track print. Reminds me of the person who has a complete roadshow print of the 1954 A Star is Born.
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post #65 of 87
1/25/12 at 9:20pm
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Originally Posted by Bob Furmanek View Post

(The left print contained a mono optical composite track of the entire four channels, and served as an emergency audio back-up in case the dubber went out of sync with the picture.). /quote]
If they have the mono optical which has the entire four channels, couldn't they extract the front three tracks?



No, that wouldn't be possible. The mono is a composite of all 4 tracks.
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post #66 of 87
1/25/12 at 9:47pm
It's great that private collectors have saved many things the studios probably threw out in their short sightedness, but do they have to be total dickweeds about it?

It's likely not even the same people at the studio twenty years on they would be dealing with. Check the ego at the door already.
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post #67 of 87
1/25/12 at 11:10pm
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It's great that private collectors have saved many things the studios probably threw out in their short sightedness, but do they have to be total dickweeds about it?
It's likely not even the same people at the studio twenty years on they would be dealing with. Check the ego at the door already.

I think the answer is more subtle and difficult than that.

As a non-movie example, there were V-discs issued to the US forces during WWII and up until 1949 of special popular music not available elsewhere. Whole collections were later confiscated and destroyed due to perceived infringement of music "copyright". Many of those collectors would have been well aware they were holding very rare material.

Pretty sure many a "nice" movie collector has been burned in a similar way. In the UK a comedian movie fan lost a lot of valuable nitrate reels due to confiscation by police during an investigation he was later completely cleared upon.
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post #68 of 87
2/29/12 at 6:07pm
Bob, I heard that House of Wax was nixed for 3D Blu release. Have you heard any more about it? Is it still happening or not?
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post #69 of 87
3/1/12 at 8:38am
Todd, I'm hearing conflicting reports. I'll see if I can get something definite from the source...

Bob
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post #70 of 87
3/1/12 at 9:14am
Thanks. It would be nice to be able to ditch the old Japanese subtitled copy that I have.

I'm also wondering if Sony is ever going to put The Mad Magician on 3D Blu. I'd hate to have to buy a PS3 for one stinking movie.
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post #71 of 87
3/1/12 at 11:06am
I just checked with my source and there is no news to report on HOUSE OF WAX at this time.

Bob
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post #72 of 87
3/1/12 at 11:11am

I wouldn't be surprised if they are waiting on sales info on Dial M before doing another deep catalog 3D release.

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post #73 of 87
3/1/12 at 5:24pm
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I just checked with my source and there is no news to report on HOUSE OF WAX at this time.
Bob

Curses and coniptions!

Well, anyhow, there's supposed to be a way to transfer Field Sequential into a SBS 3D format, so I always have that option. And maybe if Dial M and Jaws 3D do well, other classic titles will be released.

Yes, I did just use the words Jaws 3D and classic in the same sentence. Don't harsh. It was my first theatrical 3D movie and I have fond memories of it.
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post #74 of 87
3/2/12 at 9:09am
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Yes, I did just use the words Jaws 3D and classic in the same sentence. Don't harsh. It was my first theatrical 3D movie and I have fond memories of it.

I'm not one to judge. My first theatrical 3D movie was Spacehunter: Adventures in the Forbidden Zone.
 

 

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post #75 of 87
3/13/12 at 2:21pm
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Originally Posted by Bob Furmanek View Post

I just checked with my source and there is no news to report on HOUSE OF WAX at this time.
Bob

Response from Warner Archice Collection (Warner Home Video not on Facebook)

Warner Archive Collection "Wouldn't be through us, but through WHV. Only Dial 'M' is definite, but the others are likely to follow. We'll post further news as it develops"
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post #76 of 87
4/10/12 at 11:47am
Fifty-nine years ago today, the Paramount Theatre on Times Square made exhibition history with the opening of the world premiere engagement of “House of Wax,” the first major studio feature in 3-D. Augmented with WarnerColor and WarnerPhonic Sound, the shocker starred Vincent Price, Phyllis Kirk, and Frank Lovejoy, who that night only made guest appearances in the Paramount’s stage show. Headlining the stage portion throughout the engagement was young recording sensation Eddie Fisher, supported by Hugo Winterhalter & His Orchestra, The Beachcombers, and comedian Joey Forman. The booking was hailed as the mightiest ever at the Paramount for the Easter holiday season.

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post #77 of 87
4/10/12 at 1:41pm

What a fabulous ad! I had seen it in black and white in various movie books, but I'd never seen the color rendition until now. Thanks, Bob!

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post #78 of 87
4/10/12 at 1:43pm
You're welcome, Matt. It's the original 22x28 half sheet.

Bob
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post #79 of 87
4/10/12 at 3:36pm

Beautiful.

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post #80 of 87
4/10/12 at 3:38pm

That is indeed a GREAT poster.

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post #81 of 87
4/11/12 at 1:13pm
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post #82 of 87
4/11/12 at 10:03pm
I know that only the mono and surround tracks exist for House of Wax. But if they can make a 7.1 from the mono track of Jaws - http://www.hometheaterforum.com/t/319941/ushe-press-release-jaws-blu-ray-plus-restoration-details , they should be able to something similar for House of Wax.
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post #83 of 87
4/12/12 at 8:22am
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I know that only the mono and surround tracks exist for House of Wax. But if they can make a 7.1 from the mono track of Jaws - http://www.hometheaterforum.com/t/319941/ushe-press-release-jaws-blu-ray-plus-restoration-details , they should be able to something similar for House of Wax.

Yes, but for Jaws they have genuine stereo music tracks to start with. And the Jaws remix has new replacement sound effects that sound wrong instead of the originals. I'd rather they leave House of Wax alone and do the best with what they have.
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post #84 of 87
4/12/12 at 11:49am
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Yes, but for Jaws they have genuine stereo music tracks to start with. And the Jaws remix has new replacement sound effects that sound wrong instead of the originals. I'd rather they leave House of Wax alone and do the best with what they have.

I would not want "new replacement sound effects". But try to make it as close to the four tracks they had for WarnerPhonic sound. They have the surround track so that would be one track. For dialog, have directional dialog - that's what they had on the original tracks. For effects, match the sound to where the effect appears on the screen. For music, does Warner have the music tracks maybe in stereo?
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post #85 of 87
4/15/12 at 9:36am
Do the six tracks from the mid-70s 70mm reissue of House of Wax exist or was that in mono too?
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post #86 of 87
4/15/12 at 12:44pm
The re-issue was not six track, it was two. Mono left/right and mono surrounds.

The original WarnerPhonic was 4: stereo left, center, right and mono surround.
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post #87 of 87
4/16/12 at 11:30am
Searching old reviews of the 2003 DVD, there was an attempt to recreate the directional dialog.

Anyway, in Dolby Digital 2.0 Surround, the dynamics are good, and the stereo spread is reasonably wide for so old a film; there's even some rear-channel sound that makes its way to the back speakers on occasion. One advantage of two-channel sound, incidentally, is that voices will often move back and forth realistically across the sound stage with the movements of the actors, rather than always being centered as in so many new DD 5.1 releases.

http://moviemet.com/review/house-wax-dvd-review

The audio here is presented in 2.0 surround, which replicates the special Warner Sonic 3-D soundtrack used in theatrical presentations. I found this to be a decent effort, but some kind of restoration work was in order. A lot of hiss and unwanted noise can be heard in this track, which never overpowers the audio, but can become an annoyance. Aside from that, no real problems surface and this soundtrack has more life than expected. The front channels are well used to enhance the dialogue and more basic elements, while the surrounds kick in at times to add to the eerie atmosphere

http://blurayauthority.com/standard-dvd/house-of-wax/

An English language Dolby Surround track provides some separation in the dialogue.

http://www.digitallyobsessed.com/displaylegacy.php?ID=5050
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