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Yes, kids, there will be a Toy Story 4

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#3 had the perfect ending for the series.
Edited by Greg Kettell - 6/27/11 at 7:26pm
post #3 of 49
Thread Starter 

It was the perfect ending to the story, wasn't it?

Pixar should have left it be.

 

I guess there was mo' money to be had by continuing with the franchise.

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Disappointing, actually.  As Greg said, Three was a perfect ending.

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I don't think I would take this as gospel.   The same rumors came out right after TS2, and it took 10 years to get a sequel.   Pixar has the next 3 years plotted out.   So, even if this does happen, it's WAY away, and might be a totally different concept.

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I don't think I would take this as gospel.   The same rumors came out right after TS2, and it took 10 years to get a sequel.   Pixar has the next 3 years plotted out.   So, even if this does happen, it's WAY away, and might be a totally different concept.


 

Yea!  Another reboot! smiley_wink.gif

post #7 of 49

I for one would love to see a 4th as the 3rd film was horrible. One of the worst Pixar films to date. It was nothing near to what the first two were. I would love to see Pixar get back on track and do another likened unto the first and second. 

post #8 of 49
Like others, I think it might be better to leave it alone after three truly great movies. As far as I'm concerned, they can keep doing Toy Story shorts (like the one on Cars 2) forever though. With the shorts, the audience gets too revisit the characters and have fun with them but since it's a short, Pixar doesn't have to worry about hitting a fourth homerun in a row like they would if it was another feature.
post #9 of 49

There is no more story to tell, except, as Travis pointed out, in the form of the short films. I haven't seen Cars 2 and thus haven't seen the short that accompanies it, but if they want to continue the characters this way, there's plenty they can do with them.

 

What Tom Hanks said, and how he said it, doesn't make it sound too definite to me:

 

"I think there will be, yeah. Yeah, yeah, think they're working on it now. There you go."

 

Keep in mind what it took to get parts 2 and 3. I still recall how 2 was almost a direct-to-video sequel, and 3 almost got made by someone else! And also keep in mind how many people were skeptical of those…until they saw them.

post #10 of 49
Loved the third one and I agree it ended the series perfectly. Don't see the need for another one.
post #11 of 49
If they do this, my respect for Pixar is going to go down several more notches. Cars 2 was bad enough, but to crap on the legacy of a franchise that people actually liked is going to rub a lot of fans the wrong way. furious.gif
post #12 of 49
I'm kind of perplexed to see such a negative reaction to a potential sequel to a film that already has two of them, not to mention that Toy Story is probably the best-rated series of all time--the lowest score any of them has on Rotten Tomatoes is 99%.
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I'm kind of perplexed to see such a negative reaction to a potential sequel to a film that already has two of them, not to mention that Toy Story is probably the best-rated series of all time--the lowest score any of them has on Rotten Tomatoes is 99%.

Can you think of a better ending to the series than the third film? I was worried for years at the prospect of a third Toy Story because I didn't want to see the series sullied, and they managed to dodge a bullet with the third...so why risk that again?

It's greed, nothing more.
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I for one would love to see a 4th as the 3rd film was horrible. One of the worst Pixar films to date. It was nothing near to what the first two were. I would love to see Pixar get back on track and do another likened unto the first and second. 


Harsh words, but there is some truth to them. While I wouldn't call TS3 one of the worst Pixar films to date (that would be Up!), I thought I was the only one one who didn't find TS3 as great as many rave reviews said. Good, but ultimately a bit too sappy compared to the first two, which were great. And, what more story is there left? A good, but not perfect, ending.

And what's up with all these sequels? Pixar became great because of all of their new ideas, not because of their sequels, were all the original thinkers lost somehow?

There must be lots of cool, funny, interesting stories left that are not sequels, c'mon guys, I know you can smile.gif!
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Can you think of a better ending to the series than the third film? I was worried for years at the prospect of a third Toy Story because I didn't want to see the series sullied, and they managed to dodge a bullet with the third...so why risk that again?

It's greed, nothing more.

Every Pixar movie except for Cars is rated above 90% on Rotten Tomatoes, and the first two Toy Story movies, in particular, both have perfect 100% ratings. With Toy Story 3, Pixar simply lived up to their usual high standard--how is that "dodging a bullet?" Toy Story is probably the best movie series in history (has any other franchise scored 99% or better with every movie). I don't see any "risk" here.
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It's greed, nothing more.
Has it that any different from Toy Story 2 or Toy Strory 3 or virtually every other movie ever made though? I love Pixar's movies but they have to deal with business realities just like anyone who is backed by a studio.
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I love Pixar's movies but they have to deal with business realities just like anyone who is backed by a studio.

Pixar was dealing fine with business realities before they were bought out by a bigger studio. (So much so, that it was plain to everyone that the bigger studio bought them not to rescue them - but to partake of their success.)
post #18 of 49
Yes, they are harsh words. I have never been let down by a film more so than TS3. I was so excited to see it coming, so excited by the trailers and than so pissed I wasted good money and time watching it. To me, it is Pixar's worst film to date. Of course, Wall-E is a close runner up.
post #19 of 49
I don't think a TS4 is necessarily a bad thing. Yes, the first three comprise a great trilogy, but a fourth film might or might not add to it. There's no way to know until the film is released. I also think Cars 2 will be seen more positively as time goes by, despite being a very commercial effort.
post #20 of 49
The trendy thing these days is not to think of it as simply the fourth movie in the series, but the start of a second "trilogy". So they're probably planning for movies five and six, as well.

Isn't that all Hollywood does these days, plan trilogies? Every film that comes out is the start of a trilogy, every third film "wraps up" the trilogy.
post #21 of 49
If Pixar wants to do a sequel do The Incredibles 2.

The more they milk Toy Story, the better chance they're eventually going to make one that isn't so great. Which would be a big shame. They can continue on making more Toy Story shorts, I don't see the need for another 90 minute Toy Story feature though.

The story's been told ... sometimes (most times actually) it's better to leave on top.
post #22 of 49
This is horrible! Please no more!

I totally agree they should do Incredibles 2 instead. It'd be nice to see baby Jack-jack fighting crime with the family, and plain growing up too.

This is going to be like Aladdin 6: Jafaar gets Glasses.
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Every Pixar movie except for Cars is rated above 90% on Rotten Tomatoes, and the first two Toy Story movies, in particular, both have perfect 100% ratings. With Toy Story 3, Pixar simply lived up to their usual high standard--how is that "dodging a bullet?" Toy Story is probably the best movie series in history (has any other franchise scored 99% or better with every movie). I don't see any "risk" here.

I agree TS is probably the best movie series. Maybe you can argue that Godfather 1&2 are better, but there's the third one. The Star Wars movies are all over the place, quality wise. I can't think of another trilogy in which, IMHO, each one is better than the preceding. I would venture that even among those who think s1 or 2 is the best, most think they are all great.
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Yes, they are harsh words. I have never been let down by a film more so than TS3. I was so excited to see it coming, so excited by the trailers and than so pissed I wasted good money and time watching it. To me, it is Pixar's worst film to date. Of course, Wall-E is a close runner up.

I try to keep in mind that people experience movies differently and tastes vary. But oh my gawd, I don't think I've read an opinion about any movie that I understand less. TS1 was great, but I thought TS2 was better. Than along comes TS3 full of laughs and emotion and just damn good story telling. And then an ending that left me wanting more, but knowing the story was complete. Perfectly complete. TS3 has huge laughs and the deepest emotional resonance of the three, at least for me. TS3 was the best of the three.

So I would tell Pixar, don't tamper with perfection. Then of course, has there been a studio in the history of movies whose quality has been so consistently high? Maybe they can stay balanced on the tightrope one more time.
post #24 of 49
how about looking at it this way ?

When its a trilogy,you get Toy story 3

When it's a quadrilogy,you get Alien:ressurection.

think about it.


something about 3 gives you full circle,most of the time
number 4 gets you the ditch,if you know what i mean.
post #25 of 49
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But oh my gawd, I don't think I've read an opinion about any movie that I understand less. 


 

Not sure I can explain it any more simply, but I'll try. The trailers made the film look great, the actual film was horrible, no were near as good as the first two. 

 

But, like you said, everyone one experiences films differently and that's why it made a boatload of cash and exactly why they'll make a 4th. People will go see it, guaranteed. 

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This is horrible! Please no more!

I totally agree they should do Incredibles 2 instead. It'd be nice to see baby Jack-jack fighting crime with the family, and plain growing up too.

It might be nice to see an "Incredibles 2" that hardly includes Bob & family at all.

Have the the sequel start with the end of the first film, the point where the Underminer emerges with his unforgettably bad and funny line ("I am beneath you, but nothing is beneath me!"). From there, in a very few moments, show the Underminer and his minions getting their rear ends kicked. Freeze-frame in the middle of the fight (like in Ratatouille) ... then rewind to tell the story of the Underminer's life and fights with "Golden Age" superhumans, military forces, etc. in a set of mini-stories.

The Underminer should be portrayed as a villain, but also as a rather incompetent and pitiable figure, somewhat like Wile E. Coyote. All his life, things have never gone right for this guy. It doesn't matter who he challenges (maybe sometimes it's not even the heavy hitters who foil him, but just a toddler who does so unknowingly). Like the Coyote, he's a fanatic who keeps redoubling his effort when he has lost sight of his aim. Breaking out to challenge the surface world at just the second that Bob's family happens to be passing by is just the latest of the Underminer's many, many "Coyote meets gravity" moments.

The original fight can then resume with the open question being, how is it going to be resolved given that both sets of characters are now somewhat sympathetic (to the audience).
post #27 of 49
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And what's up with all these sequels? Pixar became great because of all of their new ideas, not because of their sequels, were all the original thinkers lost somehow?

They got bought out by Disney. They are just part of the machine now. And the machine only wants sure things, not original thinking.
post #28 of 49
http://www.suite101.com/content/disney-and-pixar-films-a262077 claims there are two films on the way in 2012: Brave and a Monsters, Inc. sequel.

There was a trailer for the first one before Cars 2, although the trailer didn't reveal very much.
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In 2008 Pixar announced Newt, a story about the last two blue-footed newts in existence destined to mate to save their species from extinction, scheduled for release in June 2012. This project was to be followed by the fantasy film The Bear and the Bow.

In April 2010, Disney/Pixar announced that, instead, The Bear and the Bow would be released first, under the new name Brave, followed by a sequel to the 2001 Pixar feature Monsters, Inc. later that year. Also, Newt was removed from the official Disney A to Z Encyclopedia supplement by chief archivist Dave Smith, who confirmed that the film had been cancelled. In May 2011, Pixar COO John Lasseter implied that Newt had been shelved due to it having a similar plotline to Blue Sky Studios's film Rio.
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They got bought out by Disney. They are just part of the machine now.
Now? When wasn't Pixar part of the 'machine'? Their third movie was a sequel, they've always merchandised the hell out of their movies (how many characters from their movies have one or two scenes but also have their own plush dolls and action figures?) and they've always made tons of money. I'm not saying that those are bad things but it's not like once Disney bought them that they suddenly started caring about money. The great thing about Pixar is that they seem to understand that making wonderful movies will make them even more money.
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