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post #31 of 53
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That'd be interesting, since it pits Daphne's new (questionable) friend against her old, life-long friend. I'm afraid it's going to be connected with Bay's street art, though.
post #32 of 53
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So it was the billboard. How long in show time has there between "Paradise Lost" and tonight's episode? Because of the break, it feels like months went by, but it's probably not all that long.

Loved Daphne confronting Angelo, and Angelo reaffirming her false belief because it was easier than admitting the truth.

Really loved Emmett admitting that he really hates hearing people sometimes to Bay. Instead of getting defensive or feeling hurt, she accepted that and said, if you're going to hate, then let's hate together. Because she knows that even if he can hate hearing people, he loves her. When we're at a disadvantage, we like to be brought into the fold. It's much harder to accept that, in a particular area, you're always going to be at a disadvantage, there's always going to be a bit of a chasm. That was a really mature moment for Bay, understanding that she can never go to that place with Emmett like Daphne can, but she can universalize those feelings, and remind him that feeling alienated is a human thing, not just a Deaf thing. Most of us try to highlight the things we're proud of about ourselves, and cloak the things we don't like. What Bay did in that scene was see a part of herself she doesn't like in Emmett, and shine a light on it so he can see it. That's incredibly brave, and uncharacteristically vulnerable for Bay who hates being vulnerable. I wish Melody would get a glimpse of that side of her.

And she gave up her street art for Emmett.

My favorite scene in the whole episode was the scene in Bay's studio. Daphne comes in, and Bay's still furious at her. But when Daphne starts taking about visiting Angelo, almost against her will she puts down her brush and starts listening. And then something really neat happens. We see that Bay, as much as she's trying to fool herself, has just as many doubts about Angelo as Daphne does. And Daphne sees something that Bay probably would have given everything not to let her see: that Bay values and internalizes her opinion. One of the things I love about the show is that, just as Emmett and Daphne share a bond that Bay will never be able to understand, Bay and Daphne share a bond that nobody else on the planet will ever be able to understand.

And of course, Angelo's probably going to break Regina's heart again over the salon, having probably gotten the money through sketchy means.

It's funny how I thought the arrest being used as a wedge to keep Melody against Bay would be a jump the shark moment, but once I saw it executed, it completely worked for me. I loved that we saw the arrest from Emmett's view point at the end of the last episode and the cop's viewpoint at the beginning of this episode.

Big complaint: ABC Family's pop-up ads during the show are irritating enough normally, but when the cover the subtitles during the ASL scenes they're downright infuriating.
post #33 of 53

I thought they played it just perfect though; a fine and community service.   But I found the entire way it was handled to be incredibly well done; yes he got caught and was being punished - but it wasn't over the top, it wasn't turned into some brutal thing.   It was just the catalyst - and it reminded us that for all their differences, he and Bay have a real, natural kind of connection that can't be easily replicated.

 

Pulling off onscreen chemistry is difficult for actors, no matter their age or their skill; it can come off as false and fake way too easy.   But the performances here make you buy into Emmit & Bay on a very basic level; they are the artistically inclined dreamers of the show; when Bay is hurt, she retreats to her painting and Art and Music.   When Emmit is hurt, he retreats to his room to his bass filled music and to his art.   The two share a great connection that allows their moments to ring as incredibly real.   I like how you picked up the moment of Bay hearing "the truth" and realizing that while it wasn't her truth, the two of them could battle it out together - they both had reasons to be mad at the world.

 

Bay's admission to Daphne of "I don't know" when pressed on why it was important for Daphne to give a second chance to Angelo ended in a great moment that let Daphne inside Bay's head:  "It's because you hit the Bio-dad lottery".    She's not talking monetarily, she's talking about the kind of person her father is.   Bay had, at the beginning of the show used this claim as an act of rebellion that revealed the truth.   Her parents "didn't understand her", but she always knew that they loved her; really loved her.  And for all the pressure she felt from her father, she knew he loved her completely - she was able to feel mad because she was secure that no matter what, he'd always care for her.

 

With Angelo, her feet aren't as firm.   He's a guy who ran off with a questionable past.  And she's trying to figure out who she is: is she just the sum of her genetic parts, where there is a lot of Angelo in her?   Or is she the daughter raised by a family who loved her and instilled their ideas?   I thought that moment was so good because it was Bay's real admission that despite Daphne's thought that "she's had it easy" and took her friend/etc. that Bay is also dealing with her own very real struggles with who she is in this whole thing.

 

Daphne realizing that she had switched teams basically to be used; and rather then rail at the system, she took the high road:  I will be better then everyone else.   When she had the confrontation with Bay and Bay gave her the "bio-dad" spiel, she realized just then what a powerful resource she had at her disposal, and how she should be grateful for somethings that had gone her way - her scene between Daphne & Dad was fantastic; "I want you to coach me"..

 

Really great stuff last night.

post #34 of 53
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It's funny, if you made a couple paragraph summary of certain episodes, it would sound like the most outrageous soap opera. But as executed, it comes off completely natural and believable.

I loved Daphne and Bay working together to try and raise the money for Emmett's fine so he wouldn't have to sell his bike. I loved Daphne coming to accept that Emmett's dating Bay, and I loved Bay accepting the bond Daphne and Emmett share. I loved her expression when Daphne was telling her about her and Emmett's first ride on I-435. I think, jealousy aside, she's really touched by what Emmett and Daphne share, and the way they helped each other survive and thrive over the years.

That said, when I saw Daphne and Emmett kiss in a promo, I was so pissed. Happiest I've been in a long time to find a beat was a dream sequence.

I also liked Daphne calling Wilke. Just because she can't have Emmett doesn't mean she can't move forward with her life. Wilke's got many of the typical deficiencies of a rich spoiled teenage boy, but he does like her, and she likes him. This time, she didn't wait until it was too late.

I don't trust Simone at all, but it was nice that Toby got a storyline that didn't tie into one of the girls. He's the most underutilized character save for Adrianna, who seems to appear when needed for advice or criticism and then disappear into thin air.

I still don't like Melody's double standard with Bay and Daphne, but I really liked that Bay and Melody had a conversation of substance. For someone like Bay that's never really wanted for anything, it needed to be stated that at the end of the day finite funds only go so far. It wasn't Melody being mean, or trying to punish Emmett even more. She knew how important Ripley was to him, and she didn't want him to have to lose it. But choosing between paying the mortgage and utilities or covering Emmett's fine, she's going to go with the thing that keeps a roof over their head. I strongly dislike her for how she's treated Bay, but she didn't deserve that.

My favorite moment was Kathryn's choice for a lawyer winning over John. He steamrolls her on so much, it was nice to see him be the one who changes his mind. The young lawyer's argument got to the heart of why they're pursuing this in the first place: it's not about the money, which they have plenty of, it's about making the hospital accountable for its mistake. Even if they lose the case, the hospital's going to be in the headlines for what transpired for weeks, even months. That's probably worth more to them than any settlement.
post #35 of 53
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Everything surrounding Angelo is beyond dramatic. It's like he stepped out of a movie from the 1930s or something. In a way, it would have been a lot more satisfying if the warrant had been for tax evasion or something really mundane like that. I did like that Adrianna was the one who reported him, not because of what he did but because of the type of person Regina is around him. She sort of floats in the background and disappears for a while, so it was nice to see her play a proactive role in events.

What we're seeing play out with Emmett's family seems to happen a lot with divorced parents. Emmett's dad feels like he's in a competition for Emmett's affection, so he gives Emmett whatever he wants and becomes the really permissive one so Emmett will love him and spurn Melody. Melody, previously the custodian parent, was stuck being the responsible one. Emmett's dad's actions are about what gratifies himself, while Melody's actions are about what will ultimately benefit Emmett, at least as she sees it. It was interesting that Bay, while hating Melody and being warmly embraced by Emmett's dad and his girlfriend, approves of Melody a lot more than she approves of Emmett's dad and especially Emmett's dad's girlfriend. She didn't say/sign anything at the time, but as soon as Emmett made her defensive about Angelo, she went right to that place. And Emmett was smart enough to recognize where it was coming from and let her go rather than come to blows about it.

The interesting thing about the Sarah Lazar storyline is that the scene at the car wash was used to cast the role and was originally much longer; Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
The sides for the scene made it clear that John had impregnated her during an affair that ended some time ago, and she was there for him to sign away parental rights to the baby.
Whether the scene was purposefully planted to guide fans down the wrong trail, they decided to go a different direction or they decided to push the revelation back later in the season, I don't know. But given my expectations for what would happen, I was very surprised how different it turned out.

I don't like how John ignored Bay's demand that Angelo not be deported, but instantly acceded to Daphne's request. I know she's the new shiny (biological) daughter, but Angelo's Bay's birth father. Bay's opinion on that particular subject matter should hold more weight with him.
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I obviously didn't like Regina sleeping with Angelo, but I also completely believed it. Old habits die hard. Hate as deep as her hate for Angelo had to be fueled by something powerful.

I also liked the sex discussion. Bay is a girl early in the first season you would have assumed would have had sex already. Emmett, because of his torch for Daphne, is someone you would have assumed the other thing. As we got to know Bay better and understand how guarded she is, it made a lot of sense that she's still a virgin, and the Ty storyline really showcased that. She's more Type A personality than she seems at first glance. Emmett not being a virgin is kind of wonderful because it highlights just how much we don't know about him outside of his friendship with Daphne and the bubble world he and Bay have created with each other.
post #36 of 53

I think what really paid off is how .... human they have made Emmit.  He's not an idealic "perfect" kid.   He has things about him that you admire, and the normal, typical 17 year old boy issues ;)   Of course the overly permissive dad is going to be appealing to him.   But Emmit is also really trying to figure out where things go forward from here.   Is he always going to be somewhat of an underachiever who lives the more artistic lifestyle?  Or does he want something else, what his mom wants for him?   That's going to be a real challenge going forward.

 

I agree on Angelo's crime being a bit too "by the book", then again, I'm not sure we know everything there is to know about that - but I do like it that it was the grandmother who turned him in; she viewed him as the manipulator, and that the story they heard about the crime was probably just the sugar-coated tip of the iceberg.

 

 

post #37 of 53
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Wow, that was one of my very favorite episodes of the entire series so far. The race angle was a shoe I've been waiting to drop for a long time now, and it couldn't have happened in a more heartbreaking way. A stranger's racist toward you, it might piss you off but it's not going to rock your world. But when you're own grandmother is racist toward you, that's just horrible. It's a fascinating situation, in that it reveals how much of a social construct race really is. Until she saw herself reflected in her grandmother's prejudice, Bay never really felt Hispanic. Until Monica gave her the cold shoulder, Daphne never really felt white. Those kind of racial identities are formed over a lifetime, by experiences communal and exclusionary. These two girls are caught in the crossroads between nature and nurture, and both sides have had an impact. More importantly, these girls that sometimes felt like a square peg in a round hole have had an impact on the people raising them. John, Kathryn, Regina and Adrianna are all better, more empathetic people for it. I've never loved John more than the bedroom scene where he announced he was buying his mother-in-law out because no one treats his daughter that way. "She is my mother." "Yeah, and Bay is our daughter. And if your mother does not have the decency to give our daughter some consideration, then I don't feel like I have to give her any."

I liked that as the grandmother was pushing her away, it helped bridge some of the gap between Regina and Bay. I particularly liked that Regina didn't rely on race to explain handling racism; by using Daphne's deafness as her example, she universalized the experience of being judged for reasons that have nothing to do with who you are as a person.

Even though it was a little too on the nose, I liked that the racism story was mirrored by Daphne being rejected by her Hispanic friend from East Riverside. Instead of being a girl from the neighborhood, Daphne is now seen by Monica as just another spoiled rich girl. I think it's that experience that led Daphne to give the heirloom back to her grandmother. It wasn't a martyr moment for Daphne on behalf of Bay, it was a statement that I don't see myself as this person. I'm the girl from East Riverside, and I've seen the way people like you judge us. And I'm not going to be a party to it.

I'll miss Adrianna, even though she was barely in the show as it was. I hope she'll still be recurring.

Meredith Baxter did a really good job with a really unlikable role. And it gives me no small amount of pleasure to see Alex P. Keaton's mom have it out with Marty McFly's mom.
post #38 of 53

I think what was good was that while the grandmother was racist, she also had a lot of inner struggle about accepting her new grandchild, and she voiced a lot of the things that you know someone, somewhere in one of these families had to be feeling.   What was good was that it was a unifying factor in helping both families address the things about themselves that they didn't like, that they came to see some of those struggles in the way they look at the world - they had just committed to change.

 

I think what was also pointed in this wasn't that it was just about race - it was also about money and standards; Daphne had long been accepted in her community, but now that she had 'moved on up', the people she had left behind don't relate to her - just because of a change in her zip code.  She had now changed stratospheres on them, and they didn't see her as fitting it with them, associating negative traits with her they associated with all rich people.


In the end, these stereotypes by all sides were done in a way that wasn't overly overt or full of pressure, but they came off with some reality to them, simple moments that added up.   I think what was re-affirmed here was that the only people who really understand the struggle of a complete change of identity is Bay & Daphne.  And they slowly grasp that they are the only two people who can really relate to each other about what it is like to completely change who you are.  

 

Great episode tonight.

post #39 of 53
what episode was this?
post #40 of 53
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^ 1x16 - Las Dos Fridas (last Tuesday's episode)
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Las Dos Fridas was the episode (#16) which was last week.   Tonight's is Protect Me From What I Want.

 

BTW, all the episode titles are taken from paintings.

 

Las Dos Fridas: (1939)

 

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This week's:

 

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1985, Jenny Holzer.

 

 

post #42 of 53

I can't remember a show that so nailed the inner fears of a high school kid.  Maybe Freaks & Geeks.  But the moment at the end was so well crafted that I didn't see it coming at all, in any way.. and when it did, it was rang so true that I was just completely floored at how well done it was.

 

In the beginning, Emmit learned that Bay's crush on Ty was serious.. and he seemed hurt; his interactions with her were taken aback.  And through the whole episode, the feeling was: is he jealous that he doesn't mean as much?  I had thought up until the last five minutes, I'd post how about that feeling of "I am the first and only"; but when he confessed that things between his divorced parents were really bad, and he was in fear that things between he & Bay could also "fall apart"  "do people fall out of love?   Will we just fall out of love?"   Total gut check.  Emmet is a kid struggling to come to terms with where he is now that his parents are apart - and apparently a feuding duo.   They both vie for his affection, but what he gets out of it is that love may not last, and knowing that Bay had been in love with someone else, and now isn't, he's worried about how nothing in his life seems permanent.. he's looking for that life preserver.

 

I thought it was surprisingly well done, and so well delivered by the two actors.   This show week after week has delivered more surprises and more solid drama then so many other shows on TV, but when it really works, it really works.   Some great moments this week, good references.   I did like the Crossroads reference (though I wish they had used 17th & Washington instead of 17th & Baltimore, which would have been the home to the real Crossroads Gallery & Theater).   But it was all good.   This show seems to improve it's scripting and has been amazingly solid through the whole run.

post #43 of 53
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This show just hits it out of the park, week after week. My vote for best show on the air right now.
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I can't remember a show that so nailed the inner fears of a high school kid.  Maybe Freaks & Geeks.  But the moment at the end was so well crafted that I didn't see it coming at all, in any way.. and when it did, it was rang so true that I was just completely floored at how well done it was.
For me, it was "My So-Called Life", which I discovered on Netflix not too long ago. Your comparison's got me really ready to check out "Freaks & Geeks". But yeah, that moment was wonderful. Vanessa Marano and Sean Berdy have oodles of chemistry, and they both do vulnerable so well. What made the scene particularly wonderful is that it was Bay realizing something about Emmett rather than vice-versa. Both girls have so much baggage it's almost impossible for any given moment not to be about them, even though it's not their fault. But Bay was able to set that aside and realize that Emmett's really struggling in a non-Bay related way. And the show's earned them being able to have these deeper, more substantive conversations plausibly.

One thing that it gets SO right is that when you're a teenager, everything feels like life and death. Most cynical adults would yearn to love as passionately and immediately and uncompromisingly as Bay and Emmett. The lucky ones looks back on their own teenage years with fond nostalgia.
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In the beginning, Emmit learned that Bay's crush on Ty was serious.. and he seemed hurt; his interactions with her were taken aback.  And through the whole episode, the feeling was: is he jealous that he doesn't mean as much?  I had thought up until the last five minutes, I'd post how about that feeling of "I am the first and only"; but when he confessed that things between his divorced parents were really bad, and he was in fear that things between he & Bay could also "fall apart"  "do people fall out of love?   Will we just fall out of love?"   Total gut check.  Emmet is a kid struggling to come to terms with where he is now that his parents are apart - and apparently a feuding duo.   They both vie for his affection, but what he gets out of it is that love may not last, and knowing that Bay had been in love with someone else, and now isn't, he's worried about how nothing in his life seems permanent.. he's looking for that life preserver.
Absolutely. This show has a great way of unveiling moments where none of the facts change, but our understanding of them does.

The gut check moment for me wasn't him asking the question, it was him watching the family coalesce for his photos. Since were watching through his eyes, all the bickering and arguing and confusion that were watching falls into the background and what we see is a group of seven people bonded by love. Not a string of love, or a wheel of love with spokes coming from a central point. Just a mass of love. These people love each other, and would do anything for each other.

Even Bay and Daphne, I think, love each other almost through osmosis. They were shaped by the same forces. The scene in the Buckner library captured that. Bay and Daphne are two very different people, but there are certain lines they both know shouldn't be crossed. Daphne was shaped by Vasquez nuture and Kennish nature. Bay was shaped by the opposite. But Regina and John and Kathryn are all fundamentally decent people. Even when they've made decisions I disagree with to my core, they were coming from a selfless place.

Emmett looks through that viewfinder at all of these people weaving in and out of each other's lives, all linked in some way, and he feels such longing. I have two wonderful parents, but as an only child I often longed for that large sense of family I could just get lost in. Bay and Daphne might have taken on a lot of crap with discovering the switch, but what they've gotten out of it is a network that will mean they will always have family and never feel alone. For someone who feels as lonely as Emmett does, that's got to seem like the Garden of Eden. It's so easy to make a dramatic show about bad people doing bad things to one another. It's so much harder but so much richer to make a dramatic show about good people trying to be good to each other.

Even John's story line with Toby was well done. And I'm glad Adrianna's back.
post #44 of 53

You mentioned a few plot points that came and went quickly but really worked.   The talk between John & Toby was very well done.. he sees so much of himself in Toby, he admires Toby's athletic talent, and he feels at odds because Toby doesn't want to do it.. doesn't want to use what John feels is one of those "one of a kind" talents.. but he's willing to try and back him in his music.  When he went to Toby later and said "we're going to go and see you" I thought that was a great beat.

 

 

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For someone who feels as lonely as Emmett does, that's got to seem like the Garden of Eden. It's so easy to make a dramatic show about bad people doing bad things to one another. It's so much harder but so much richer to make a dramatic show about good people trying to be good to each other.

 

You nailed it.  I thought about this as I've slogged through Gossip Girl this year.  The occasionally fun stories of backstabbing and scheming, it's so much harder - but more rewarding, to tell a story where a moment is a lot more real and heartwarming, frankly.  Her understanding of his situation, when she finally got it, meant a lot to the both of them.  It was a great bit of writing.

 

Which comes to the other moment I thought was really well done: when Bay told Daphne about her run-in with Simone "she's not someone you want as an enemy.. but she's also not someone you really want as a friend".   As she told the story of Simone using a fragile classmates interest in a boy to humiliate her, you could just see that type of character being who Simone is.   She plays all the sides, and eventually, Bay had to step in for her concern for Daphne and say: this is not the way you want to go.

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When he went to Toby later and said "we're going to go and see you" I thought that was a great beat.
Me too. John's the hardest parent to sympathize with, partially because he's the most headstrong and used to getting his own way. But even though he has strong preconceptions about the way things she be, he really does try to bridge the gap with all of his children. He might not approve of Toby's music, but he's going to support it.
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Which comes to the other moment I thought was really well done: when Bay told Daphne about her run-in with Simone "she's not someone you want as an enemy.. but she's also not someone you really want as a friend".   As she told the story of Simone using a fragile classmates interest in a boy to humiliate her, you could just see that type of character being who Simone is.
... and, just as importantly, the type of character Bay isn't. It was something Bay had tried to tell Daphne earlier, but now Daphne was ready to listen. One thing I really liked about that scene is that was only ostensibly about Simone. Daphne had built up a lot of misconceptions about Bay as a result of some unfortunate exchanges they've had over the run of the show. So when Bay was outlining what caused her falling out with Simone, Daphne was learning about Simone but also about Bay. Bay is often entitled and self-absorbed, but she is NOT ruthless like Simone. It sucks Daphne lost another friend, but it's great the two girls can be there for each other like that.
post #46 of 53
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I loved that Bay went to Melody to tell her about Emmett's issues. I absolutely loved it. It was the most selfless thing she's done since the show began. She went to the woman she knows hates her, a woman she doesn't much like herself, and tells her things that she knows Emmett will hate her for sharing. She knew ratting him out to Melody would drive a wedge in their relationship, she knew she'd get the cold shoulder for it. But Emmett's future was more important than keeping him on her good side. Indeed, Emmett's future was more important to her than their relationship. That's love. And to Melody's credit, she recognized how brave and selfless and mature it was for Bay to do it. That finally broke the ice in a way that nothing else could. It was an earned moment that spoke well of both of them.

I loved the basically silent blow up between Emmett's parents at the art show. It demonstrated how disruptive and embarrassing a public argument can be even when you can't hear it. And all of that stuff had been bubbling up for a while.

I loved the revelation about sculpture with the wings being made out of bay leaves. It's so hard for this show to find ways to show what Regina and Bay mean to each other, given the walls that certain revelations have created. That was perfect, through their shared medium of art, and and Vanessa Marano just absolutely brought it to that scene. That survived undercurrent of unexpectedly discovered love. I can't think of another 19-year-old actress with the experience much less ability to bring such a subtle and complicated emotion across. "Parenthood" has had a lot of cathartic moments lately that felt overdone and unearned. This scene was played just right; Bay was on the verge of breaking into tears and hugging Regina most of the way through, but she held it in. Which was exactly right for her character in this situation.

It was nice to see Kathryn stand up for herself with John; even though her decision was foolish and will probably tank the lawsuit, it was the morally correct one. Just because the hospital's mistake shattered her family doesn't mean their lawsuit should shatter someone else's. She had to know giving that money would probably kill their lawsuit, but she made the decision to do it anyway. I sort of applaud that.
post #47 of 53

Adam, you mirror a lot of my thoughts.    Bay's moment of saying: you're dad's with this person because they are fun and wild (and he's having some sort of midlife crisis) is cool, but it's not really good parenting.. and she knows that Emmet is someone who has real potential, he's not stupid - he's just really struggling to figure out what is going on with his life.   I find the difference between the situations to be subtle but really well played.   Bay & Daphne are the ones thrown into a wild soap opera situation, but their families have worked together cohesively, fighting at times, to try and do the right thing.  While their situation is unusual, their support system has made sure that both girls have the feeling of protection and a safety net.

 

But Emmet is in a much more traditional problem, parents who divorce and fight.  And for Emmet, that safety net that Bay & Daphne has is really at risk.   He exposed a lot of that last week "will we fall out of love?"  Still is one of the more haunting, strong moments in a series this year.   But this week, Emmet has fallen hard into the "fake it to make it".   The situation is bad, and even Emmet knows it is bad.   But he wants things to be normal, he wants to accept his new life, to move on and to be happy with it.   So, when he tells Daphne "But I'm Happy!" and she says "I don't know, you always look so miserable lately" it cut right to the situation.. Emmet IS miserable, but he WANTS to be happy, and he's willing to to try and fake it.. other people can be  happy this way, my dad is happy this way, why can't I be happy this way?

 

But no matter how much you fake it, it just can't turn around and be real for Emmet.  And he is hurt mostly in the small reveals that he's desperate for his mom & dad to get back together, or at least get along.   I think this entire plot has been played with big themes and gestures and really subtle moments that give you insight into someone without actually bluntly telling you.   Very well played, and the contrast has been great. 


Bay's concern may screw up her relationship for a while, but it was the risk she knew she had to take.. because no matter how much it may hurt Emmet now, she wants better things for him.  And you're right, the scene between the two was the moment where I think she earned a lot of respect from Melody.   Melody knew how easy it would have been for Bay to go along with "wild and free" lifestyle that Emmet was having, that part of it had to appeal to the inner artist of Bay.   But it was a big sign to say: I'm willing to sacrifice something I value, his faith in me, because I care about his outcome a great deal.. and when she told Melody "it's because I care for him", I think it dawned on Melody that this wasn't a situation where Bay was stepping in to grab something from Daphne, as she had intoned before, but a relationship that was built on a lot of commonalities, and that Bay was being both brave and showing a real big gesture of concern for her son.   Great scene.

 

The last scene I wanted to mention was the "Occupy Buckner" moment :)   No, it wasn't that, but it was a moment where Daphne felt as though: how is it that X can have so much and Y can have so little?   And how is it that an outside sponsorship group like this would come to a high end prep school and throw them scoreboards and more funding and small, public schools struggled?   I have to say, part of this worked because here in Kansas City over the last six months we've had a real fight over this.. all of the public high schools in KC, MO are now uncredited, and it's ranked as one of the bottom five school districts in America.   It's bad enough that the city had to take over the schools and is now offering to bus kids up to 40 minutes to outside schools to make sure their diploma has meaning.   At the same time, a few local private schools have absolutely boomed and their level of national attention is big... as well as funding.   So, that contrast re-presented on the show may be a coincidence (and I'm sure it is) but the timing could not have been better.   I enjoyed that storyline a great deal.   Daphne had been burned by Simone, but the outcome wasn't that Simone had made her life miserable and she'd deal, the outcome was that she had options.. and that she wanted to commit to those.   I have a gut feeling this is going to end up in a fairly contrived storyline (at some point the two schools will play each other) but I'll deal.

 

Really enjoyed it last night.  And you're right, the fight in the art gallery was some classic material.

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Longer thoughts later but it's amazing how much they pack into an hour with this show.
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I was so glad they explored a Deaf kid who doesn't have this idyllic home life with parents that have dedicated themselves to bridging the language divide. Among Deaf children with hearing parents, there are at least as many parents like Travis's as there are parents like Regina. Most fall somewhere in between, but much closer to John than to Regina. Having pidgin, homemade signs within the household is not uncommon, either. It's something I can't fathom; I'm terrible with languages and barely scraped by ASL in college, but if I had a Deaf kid there's no way I wouldn't be working my ass off so as to be able to communicate with him or her.

It was nice too, because it reflected on John's handling of Daphne's Deafness, or lack there of. He's involved with Carlton, he's very involved with Daphne, but her incredibly strong -- some would say implausibly strong -- oral skills have allowed him to basically pretend that she's not Deaf. He hasn't grappled with it in the way Kathryn has. He certainly hasn't grappled with it in the way Bay has; of the Kennishes, she's the only one in the trenches daily with it staring her in the face.

Speaking of Bay, while I really enjoyed the show playing out a storyline with Bay and Emmett that had nothing to do with the Deaf World, I thought they missed an opportunity a little bit with paralleling the Bay-Emmett relationship and the Daphne-Wilke relationship. Like John, Wilke's been allowed to basically ignore Daphne's Deafness. I was really hoping we'd get a conversation between Bay and Daphne where Daphne picked Bay's brain trying to get a clue into how things look from the hearing side of the equation. Because Emmett's non-verbal, Bay never had the option of ignoring his Deafness. She's really dedicated herself to picking up ASL on an insanely accelerated schedule. If I were Daphne, I wouldn't be able to help making the unfavorable comparison of Wilke to Bay.

Simone continues to be a grade-A selfish, domineering psychobitch. At the same time, I liked that neither Bay nor Daphne slagged her in front of Toby. He deserved to come to his own conclusions.

Hope Kathryn and the lawyer don't shack up.
post #50 of 53
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Man those final seconds were a knife twist to the gut. I don't like it, because I honestly don't see how you salvage a relationship after someone has cheated. But unlike most shows that go to that place, I can absolutely believe in this circumstances. It was so unfair for Emmett's parents to put her in the middle of their custody battle. She manages to avert a catastrophe, and this is the reward she gets. But even though she knew it might end the relationship, she did it anyway. That's a HUGE growth moment for her character. It just that, even though the show was absolutely playing fair, I hate to see the Emmett-Bay relationship I loved destroyed like that. If Bay forgives Emmett, it still won't be the same because I won't respect Bay any more. If they're to have any future together, they have to break up over this. Otherwise, Bay's just validating his infidelity.

I really liked the build-up to the basketball game and the impact on the Deaf community. It rang true to me, and it gave the show another avenue for John to confront Daphne's Deafness.

Always nice to see Shelley Long, even though she didn't have much to do here.

Next week's going to be brutal, now that we know all of these secrets that the characters won't know until everything explodes and end on a cliffhanger ending in the winter finale.
post #51 of 53

The final moments went from a fantastic, great moment on the basketball court, which managed to make something that I thought would be really "blah" into something pretty cool (her turning off the hearing aids and us hearing the world as she does) to something that was just a punch in the gut.. of course Emmet feels betrayed - his world is falling apart, and he doesn't feel as though anyone is there for him.  He was hurt by Bay because he thought she meddled when he asked her not to.   As he moves past it, he'll realize what a bad position she was put in, and I think he's going to regret what happened.   Kids do stupid things out of anger, spite and loneliness.  As much as Simone is a true "bitchy" character, we also got to see that she has some personal regret about the kind of person she is, and maybe some of what Ty is telling her is sinking in.

 

When Daphne explained why her doing well was so important, and how she viewed herself, for John it was so different from his experience.  I waited for part of him to see her as a Clemente, Robinson, etc. type character: her journey wasn't just one for herself, she felt the pressure of her community to do well, to represent them well.  I thought that was a great moment.

 

My one caveat:  I realize this is TV and I called this happening for a while, and that's OK it went well.. but I wish this show would get geography better.. Mission Hills (Kansas), and Carlton (most likely also Kansas) would not be playing in Springfield (Missouri) a state tournament :)

 

But I can put that nitpick aside.. the girl who plays Daphne probably won't get recognized for any awards, but her performance as well as the performance of the actress who plays Bay, has been sensational throughout the entire run.

post #52 of 53
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I was really dreading tonight's episode, because I find it really uncomfortable to watch one person be totally oblivious while the person they trust lies to their face. But I should have known better; this show has so much going on at any given moment, that that was a very small part of the episode. If anything, I liked that Bay got this one more perfect memory before everything went to hell.

I really enjoyed Daphne's storyline, with feeling the ghosts of the life she could have had all around her. Especially when the alternative life is this idyllic fairytale existence. It resonated well with Wilke's dilemma, about the costs of keeping even well-intended secrets.

I thought Melody's advice was extremely self-serving. I know she just got her son back and doesn't want to drive another wedge between them so soon. But Bay basically saved her family by manning up in an incredibly brave and conscientious way by talking to Cameron rather than stabbing him in the back and getting him to put Emmett first. Instead of a long, drawn out custody battle she got her son back. If she were in Bay's shoes, wouldn't she want to know? After everything Bay has done, doesn't she deserve to know?

The great thing about the zombie film forcing Simone and Emmett into the same space again is that it really played up the duology of the betrayal. Bay and Daphne are the focal points of the show, so naturally I viewed the affair through the prism of Emmett cheating on Bay. I didn't really think about the fact that Simone cheated on Toby, too. Much like Bay and Daphne going though this experience together makes it a little bit easier, hopefully having a sibling who's feeling more or less exactly the same thing you are will make it easier too.

I'm still not 100 percent convinced that John is telling the truth about Sarah Lazar.
post #53 of 53
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More thoughts later, but the thing I'm most left with is: what a frustrating way to go into a six month hiatus.
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