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post #61 of 289
9/8/11 at 10:21am
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Originally Posted by Joseph Burns View Post

So, the samples are: (per the Digital Bits)

"Encounter at Farpoint, Part I"
"Encounter at Farpoint, Part II"

I hope when it's actually on the disc they use the original feature-length version rather than the two-part version that was used for repeats, because that two-part version removed footage from the original version to make room for the "previously on..." clips.

Hopefully, they just called it "parts one and two" in the press release to illustrate that it's two "episodes-worth" of material, rather than two separate episodes.
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post #62 of 289
9/8/11 at 12:25pm
On the DVD, Encounter is presented as one long episode. Likely it's as you conjectured, to illustrate the sample will be 2 episodes of material.
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post #63 of 289
9/15/11 at 1:16pm
Here's a very minor update on the blu ray sampler coming and season sets. Nothing really earth shattering. I know this is the week for Star Wars. smile.gif

http://trekmovie.com/2011/09/14/new-details-on-tng-blu-ray-project/

The part I'm not clear on is what the point of the sampler disc is. And will be a sale item you can get at Best Buy or a sneak peek at what's to come, or a give-away at a show for the video industry or conventions, or what? Or to gauge interest?
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post #64 of 289
9/21/11 at 10:01am
Here's another bit of news from trekcore with quotes and tweets:
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Rumours of a possible high-definition transfer for Star Trek: The Next Generation have been rife on the internet ever since the Original Series was remastered in 2006. That project saw all 80 classic episodes brought firmly into the 21st century with all new special effects and a stunning remastering of the original film.

Star Trek fans have been asking if the same treatment will be given to The Next Generation, and recent rumblings from CBS Paramount confirm that Captain Picard and crew are about to join the original crew in glorious high-definition.

THE STORY SO FAR...
The Digital Bits site reported back in July that sources at Comic Con had confirmed CBS were working on a high-definition transfer for The Next Generation and that 4 'test episodes' were being worked on with the aim of releasing a 'sampler blu ray' sometime in 2011.

On September 2, LeVar Burton, TNG's Lt. Cmdr. Geordi La Forge, tweeted that he had stopped by CBS Paramount Television City to 'see how the TNG conversion to HD for Blue Ray was coming along...' and followed up his tweet with the hashtag #mindblown.

Now, the Digital Bits has confirmed through sources at CBS Paramount which episodes will be featured on the blu-ray sampler disc:
'The disc will include FOUR episodes, two of which will include Encounter at Farpoint, Parts 1 and 2. We're told that the other two should be The Inner Light and Sins of the Father...'

These episodes would certainly provide a diverse cross-section from the show. Unlike the Original Series, episodes of TNG were all edited on video making a high-definition transfer impossible without going back to the original film and creating new special effects.

The four sample episodes are all quite different in terms of their special-effects content and presentation style. The pilot, 'Encounter at Farpoint' would seem to present the biggest challenge for the remastering team. The episode is special-effects heavy, featuring such memorable scenes as the first saucer-separation, Q's energy 'net' and the spaceborne lifeforms at the end of the pilot. Watching this episode on DVD, I have always been struck by the poor quality of the transfer. The picture is incredibly soft, colours are poorly displayed and washed out and there is very little detail visible in the presentation. The transfer to HD for the pilot should represent a huge jump in terms of quality and perhaps be the most noticeable out of the four chosen episodes.

'Sins of the Father' is, from a cinematography standpoint, very murky and dark in it's presentation - a key hallmark for most Klingon episodes. Hopefully a high-definition transfer will bring out much of the detail which is lost in the standard definition release. Whilst not special-effects heavy, 'Sins of the Father' does feature some iconic matte paintings of Qo'noS. It will be interesting to see how this 'regular' episode is remastered and whether or not similar techniques are used that were employed in the remastering of some of classic Star Trek's famous matte paintings.

The final episode, 'The Inner Light' is arguably the most popular of the four. A long-term fan favourite, this episode is constantly seen in top-10 polls for the show. Again, this fifth-season episode isn't especially special-effects heavy, however it does feature a few notable shots involving the Kataan-probe. The cinematography in this episode is also quite unique. Much of the episode's plot takes part on the planet surface and is filmed in a 'washed out' style to depict the growing presence of the supernova. The difference between standard and high definition will probably be far less notable with this episode than the previous three.

You can remind yourself how the episodes look at the moment in our extensive collection of screencaps from the DVD releases of the show. Check out screencaps from the sampler-disc episodes with these links:

1x01-1x02 'Encounter at Farpoint' (Parts 1 & 2) DVD Screencaps
3x17 'Sins of the Father' DVD Screencaps
5x25 'The Inner Light' DVD Screencaps
Update: The Digital Bits reports in its September 12 bulletin that the sampler blu ray is set to be officially announced on September 28, TNG's 24th anniversary. The anticipated U.S. release date will apparently be around December 6.
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Robert Meyer Burnett (director of "Free Enterprise") has tweeted a few intriguing nuggets as well:

[sep 18] I cannot believe how good TNG looks in HD. Hoping they go with 16:9. This is one time the purist in me whole-heartedly supports the change.

[sep 19] CBS should put their excellent TNG 1:33 vs 16:9 demo online and let the fanbase vote. (16:9 would win by a landslide...).

[sep 19] TNG was photographed in such a boring fashion 16:9 can only help. But I can see both sides of the argument.

I'm not in favor of RMB's tweets, but then it would be interesting to see what the live action looks like, if there was room in the frame to go 16x9. But I prefer OAR.
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post #65 of 289
9/21/11 at 10:23am
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Originally Posted by Robert Meyer Burnett 

[sep 18] I cannot believe how good TNG looks in HD. Hoping they go with 16:9. This is one time the purist in me whole-heartedly supports the change.

[sep 19] CBS should put their excellent TNG 1:33 vs 16:9 demo online and let the fanbase vote. (16:9 would win by a landslide...).

[sep 19] TNG was photographed in such a boring fashion 16:9 can only help. But I can see both sides of the argument.



Hope nobody important listens to this guy. I can't imagine that in 1987, the live-action would've been framed for anything other than 4x3. Even if there was additional picture area on the sides (and we don't even know that there is), it's quite likely to include things we're not supposed to see like light stands, plywood, etc.

If people want this to "fill" their TV, let them use the 'zoom' feature.
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post #66 of 289
9/21/11 at 9:37pm

Im actually one of the few people who prefers they re-frame the original negative to 16:9.  I believe that if handled with the proper TLC it can be done and still work quite well.  

 

I am one of those people who prefers OAR in my movies, but for a show like TNG that has almost too much in the frame and wasn't shot with quite the same artistic intent.  I just don't hold a dialogue heavy TV show with the same artistic intent that I would a James Cameron, Steven Spielberg or Peter Jackson movie when they can afford to spend days on a single shot to get just the right look.   That might sound like a double standard but its just how I feel. 

 

If you want to respond to my post to disagree please spare me the comments about "using the zoom to fill the screen."  Its NOT the same thing as properly reframing from the original negative that opens up the possibility to get more information on the sides that may not have been previously seen.  If you say the 4:3 image represents the full image filmed you obviously have not paid attention to the pictures that compare Enterprise shots using footage from the original TNG negative that CLEARLY show that not all information is being seen from the original 4:3 broadcast.

 

Having said that, I completely respect and understand the feelings of those who prefer OAR.  It's probably the most "correct" thing to do.  If Paramount/CBS chooses to leave the show in 4:3 I probably won't buy it since I already have it on dvd.

 

I really hope CBS takes up Robert Meyer Burnett's idea about showing a side by side demo of 16:9 vs 4:3.  Then we can make an informed judgement.

 

 

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post #67 of 289
9/21/11 at 9:56pm
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Originally Posted by Robert Meyer Burnett 

[sep 18] I cannot believe how good TNG looks in HD. Hoping they go with 16:9. This is one time the purist in me whole-heartedly supports the change.

[sep 19] CBS should put their excellent TNG 1:33 vs 16:9 demo online and let the fanbase vote. (16:9 would win by a landslide...).

[sep 19] TNG was photographed in such a boring fashion 16:9 can only help. But I can see both sides of the argument.



Hope nobody important listens to this guy. I can't imagine that in 1987, the live-action would've been framed for anything other than 4x3. Even if there was additional picture area on the sides (and we don't even know that there is), it's quite likely to include things we're not supposed to see like light stands, plywood, etc.

If people want this to "fill" their TV, let them use the 'zoom' feature.


Ill take his word over yours since he probably has access to actual video and seems to be connected to the project itself.   

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post #68 of 289
9/21/11 at 11:13pm
I'm afraid Paramount will listen to the vocal minority who want Next Generation in square shape, and ignore their gut instinct that widescreen will be amazing and give people a reason to buy the show on BluRay rather than watch their DVDs again.

I will only buy if it is widescreen.

But frankly I'd rather buy Enterprise -- which was shot widescreen and in HD to begin with!
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post #69 of 289
9/21/11 at 11:26pm
They could make both versions available with a flick of a menu button.
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post #70 of 289
9/22/11 at 2:49am
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Originally Posted by Will_B View Post

I'm afraid Paramount will listen to the vocal minority who want Next Generation in square shape, and ignore their gut instinct that widescreen will be amazing and give people a reason to buy the show on BluRay rather than watch their DVDs again.

I will only buy if it is widescreen.

But frankly I'd rather buy Enterprise -- which was shot widescreen and in HD to begin with!

Yeah, tilt and scan and losing information from the top and bottom of the frame, and having everything stretched out is so awesome, just like Pan and Scan was the best for VHS! rolleyes.gif
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post #71 of 289
9/22/11 at 5:42am
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Originally Posted by Will_B View Post

I'm afraid Paramount will listen to the vocal minority who want Next Generation in square shape, and ignore their gut instinct that widescreen will be amazing and give people a reason to buy the show on BluRay rather than watch their DVDs again.
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Do you have any evidence to support the claim that those preferring OAR are in the minority?

I like things to fill the screen as much as the next but I have a hard time believing that all the content to be cut from the top and bottom will have been unecessary in evey scene. And taking into account TOS, plenty bought it in HD in OAR even though it showed the same basic content as the DVD's, just in higher resolution. So switching it to 16:9 for TNG won't necessarily generate more sales because you will still have those saying "I won't buy it because I have DVD's in OAR and that is the proper presentation for the show". OAR will win out because it is the proper way to go and I believe that will be the position of the majority in the end.
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post #72 of 289
9/22/11 at 6:08am
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Do you have any evidence to support the claim that those preferring OAR are in the minority?

I like things to fill the screen as much as the next but I have a hard time believing that all the content to be cut from the top and bottom will have been unecessary in evey scene. And taking into account TOS, plenty bought it in HD in OAR even though it showed the same basic content as the DVD's, just in higher resolution. So switching it to 16:9 for TNG won't necessarily generate more sales because you will still have those saying "I won't buy it because I have DVD's in OAR and that is the proper presentation for the show". OAR will win out because it is the proper way to go and I believe that will be the position of the majority in the end.
 


I was actually one of the first people to say over on bluray.com that I preferred 16:9 fully expecting to be tarred and feathered, but I ended up REALLY surprised with the amount of people that felt the same way I did.  It seemed like it was about 60:40 in favor of reframing.  Is that proof?  Hardly, but it does suggest that there is more support for 16:9 than I anticipated.

 

 

 

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post #73 of 289
9/22/11 at 6:16am
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They could make both versions available with a flick of a menu button.


Im sure you know this but the obvious problem that creates is too many discs.

 

Here is what I think could be cool if it were possible:  Is that they scan the ENTIRE film negative so that you get a full amount of information and allow a BD-Java program to do the cropping for you in a way that shows the proper framing for 4:3 and a 16:9 reframe DONE PROPERLY so people can choose (ala not a stupid "press the zoom button" equivalent).  I have NO IDEA if that is beyond BD-Java's capability or not, but it would solve the problem of creating too many discs and allow people to get what they want.

 

Yes, there IS proof that the 4:3 image DOES have some information cropped.

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post #74 of 289
9/22/11 at 6:53am
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Yes, there IS proof that the 4:3 image DOES have some information cropped.

Yes but it's not information that is meant to be seen. When they shot this show, it was never shot anyway but 4:3 and anything else (more picture or not) is an incorrect presentation of the material. It's not about seeing the most picture possible, it's about seeing what the director and cinematographer intended.

While I have no interest in Star Trek, I do have an interest in the proper aspect ratio being used because if they ruin a show like Trek, which has a legion of fans, there's little hope for other 4:3 shows getting their proper aspect ratio on Blu-ray.
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post #75 of 289
9/22/11 at 6:55am

I can see a good argument for doing the remaster in 16 x 9. The whole purpose of this is to future-proof the series, so it can run on HD stations and TVs, which are now the standard. No one's going to want to tune into something that has a muddy old image on the shiny, expensive new HDTV they bought. Making the show HD and widescreen fulfills that need. 

 

I'm sure doing it either way will produce good results. I look forward to this project.

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post #76 of 289
9/22/11 at 7:02am
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Originally Posted by Nelson Au View Post

They could make both versions available with a flick of a menu button.
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Originally Posted by Merrick Gearing View Post





Im sure you know this but the obvious problem that creates is too many discs.

 

Here is what I think could be cool if it were possible:  Is that they scan the ENTIRE film negative so that you get a full amount of information and allow a BD-Java program to do the cropping for you in a way that shows the proper framing for 4:3 and a 16:9 reframe DONE PROPERLY so people can choose (ala not a stupid "press the zoom button" equivalent).  I have NO IDEA if that is beyond BD-Java's capability or not, but it would solve the problem of creating too many discs and allow people to get what they want.

 

Yes, there IS proof that the 4:3 image DOES have some information cropped.


Nice idea, but highly unlikely, at least at this time. The problem here is that it would be difficult for any program to determine by bits what is relevant material to be included or cut. I don't doubt there is extra material on the sides that could be included. That is pretty common, but it does not mean it's all usuable. So in the end I believe it would still take a person to manually frame each shot. Not that this is a problem, there are other examples of content that has gone through the same process of being migrated from 4:3 to 16:9.

As far as including both versions, i don't see disk count being the major issue. Star Trek TOS inlcudes a version with original effects and new effects. But in this case the original effects was a product of the original scan and cleanup. In other words, they had to produce a version like this before adding the new effects. So it was just a matter of including on disk something they already generated. But in the case of TNG it would depend how they approach it. If they redo the effects in 4:3 first and create a 4:3 master then trim to 16:9 it is possible. But then you lose some of the benefits of going 16:9 if the effects shots are framed for 4:3 (not maximizing the real estate available). However, if they decide to frame the effects for 16:9 in the beginning then they would have to do the effects twice, which would be extra burden.

I'm sure they went through the same analysis with TOS, but I'm glad they stuck with OAR. TNG is not as important a series for me, maybe because I've just seen it to many times, maybe because I had issues with the early Crushers years. DS9 would be my choice because of the story arc of the last few years.

Edit: Actually, the capability you are describing is really nothing more then a continued enhancement of "smart" zooming capabilities in players and output devices.
Edited by smithb - 9/22/11 at 7:27am
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post #77 of 289
9/22/11 at 7:05am
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I can see a good argument for doing the remaster in 16 x 9. The whole purpose of this is to future-proof the series, so it can run on HD stations and TVs, which are now the standard. No one's going to want to tune into something that has a muddy old image on the shiny, expensive new HDTV they bought. Making the show HD and widescreen fulfills that need. 

 

I'm sure doing it either way will produce good results. I look forward to this project.


The Twilight Zone Blu-rays are proof that you can make a 4x3 show look great and also not destroy the composition of the show. I can't believe that anyone is advocating anything other than the original aspect ratio at a board like this. If studios were still catering to people who want to fill their screens, we'd all still be stuck watching Lawrence Of Arabia in pan and scan.
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post #78 of 289
9/22/11 at 7:30am
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The Twilight Zone Blu-rays are proof that you can make a 4x3 show look great and also not destroy the composition of the show. I can't believe that anyone is advocating anything other than the original aspect ratio at a board like this. If studios were still catering to people who want to fill their screens, we'd all still be stuck watching Lawrence Of Arabia in pan and scan.

As well as, Star Trek TOS, Space 1999, and The Prisoner. All excellent quality blu-rays in 4:3 ratio.
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post #79 of 289
9/22/11 at 8:24am
Perhaps another lesson is shows like Kung Fu that were re-framed to 16 x 9 saw a super negative reaction. I never bought that series or saw the reframing. But I recall the outcry on the HTF was there against that. If that same reaction was felt in the mainstream, perhaps the studios know it's not wise to reframe an originally filmed 4 x 3 property.

However, as Kirk once said, "Young minds, fresh ideas, be tolerant." I am open to the idea of a widescreen Next Generation. I'd be curious if they could pull it off. There is one shot in The Best of Both Worlds part 2 that is a close-up of Riker as he is about to order the weapon to fire against the Locutus cube ship. That is so close, not sure you can make that wide without cutting off Riker's forehead or chin. smile.gif

That said, I would have been pretty upset of the TOS remastered if that was made 16 x 9 for the HD-DVD and blu rays. Yet, I am aware TOS is made into widescreen for overseas consumption. As they made the CGI effects for TOS widescreen, they must have framed it to work both with OAR and widescreen, so they must be doing the same for TNG.
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post #80 of 289
9/22/11 at 9:24am
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The Twilight Zone Blu-rays are proof that you can make a 4x3 show look great and also not destroy the composition of the show. I can't believe that anyone is advocating anything other than the original aspect ratio at a board like this. If studios were still catering to people who want to fill their screens, we'd all still be stuck watching Lawrence Of Arabia in pan and scan.


And NOBODY has said that they DON'T look great.  But that doesn't mean that we can't be open minded to the fact that TNG could conceivably work just as well even better in 16:9.  

 

Yes, the results will vary from shot to shot, episode to episode and season to season, but I believe that it can be done well.  I am very much opened to that.  I have also heard insiders who are very strict about changes to film who have said that they will have an open mind about it.



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As well as, Star Trek TOS, Space 1999, and The Prisoner. All excellent quality blu-rays in 4:3 ratio.


 

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post #81 of 289
9/22/11 at 9:29am
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The Twilight Zone Blu-rays are proof that you can make a 4x3 show look great and also not destroy the composition of the show. I can't believe that anyone is advocating anything other than the original aspect ratio at a board like this. If studios were still catering to people who want to fill their screens, we'd all still be stuck watching Lawrence Of Arabia in pan and scan.


I agree with you, but there's never really been a project like this, has there? Where the studio has to go back to the various takes of a scene, find the one used in the episode, convert it to HD, and do the same with the next scene and the next, and so on, and meanwhile recreate the special effects from scratch. They are essentially rebuilding each episode, scene by scene. If you're going to do that in 2011, why not at least consider doing so in widescreen, since all of the monitors that are going to be used to view this from now on will be widescreen?

 

That said, my gut reaction is to preserve the original aspect of the show, but I can see the other side too. 

 

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post #82 of 289
9/22/11 at 9:47am
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I agree with you, but there's never really been a project like this, has there? Where the studio has to go back to the various takes of a scene, find the one used in the episode, convert it to HD, and do the same with the next scene and the next, and so on, and meanwhile recreate the special effects from scratch. They are essentially rebuilding each episode, scene by scene. If you're going to do that in 2011, why not at least consider doing so in widescreen, since all of the monitors that are going to be used to view this from now on will be widescreen?

 

That said, my gut reaction is to preserve the original aspect of the show, but I can see the other side too. 

 


Star Trek TOS with the new FX is a perfect example of doing all of this but keeping it to OAR.
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post #83 of 289
9/22/11 at 9:52am
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Originally Posted by Merrick Gearing View Post

But that doesn't mean that we can't be open minded to the fact that TNG could conceivably work just as well even better in 16:9.  

 

Yes, the results will vary from shot to shot, episode to episode and season to season, but I believe that it can be done well.  I am very much opened to that.  I have also heard insiders who are very strict about changes to film who have said that they will have an open mind about it.


Open mindedness has no bearing on it. It was shot 1.33 so changing the aspect ratio to 1.78 or 2.35 or anything other than 1.33 simply can never be correct. At 1.78, it may look fine (though I doubt it's going to since every shot was composed for a 1.33 frame) but it shouldn't be about how it looks in an altered framing or that it fills my screen, it should be about preserving what was originally shot.
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post #84 of 289
9/22/11 at 10:14am
There's another wrinkle I'm trying to gather more intel on. The film elements still exist for the optical effects of ships. I hear they look as fantastic as the live action. So it's possible they do not do CGI ships, just the effects of phaser beams and transporter effects and similar effects. If I learn more, I'll post it.
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post #85 of 289
9/22/11 at 10:24am
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And NOBODY has said that they DON'T look great.  But that doesn't mean that we can't be open minded to the fact that TNG could conceivably work just as well even better in 16:9.  

 

Yes, the results will vary from shot to shot, episode to episode and season to season, but I believe that it can be done well.  I am very much opened to that.  I have also heard insiders who are very strict about changes to film who have said that they will have an open mind about it.





 


You keep stressing about being "open minded", but I'm just not seeing how the benefits out weigh the negatives. For me at least content is the most important thing and trimming the top and bottom is losing content. Now it may not always be critical content, but in the case of closeups and congested frames it can still be valuable content. To do this just to fill a screen just doesn't seem worth it. But why stop there, if filling the screen is so important then why not force all OAR's that are not 16:9 into a 16:9 world? Maybe, because it isn't actually that important.
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post #86 of 289
9/22/11 at 10:58am
As for being open-minded, I think the best compromise would be for them to do what they did for TOS and what BBC Resources did with Space: 1999: do OAR for the Blu-Ray release and make a widescreen presentation (future-proofed) for HDTV broadcast syndication.
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post #87 of 289
9/22/11 at 11:18am
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Star Trek TOS with the new FX is a perfect example of doing all of this but keeping it to OAR.


But both Star Trek TOS and Space:1999 were also remade in widescreen for syndication -- and Space:1999 came really close to being released in widescreen for home video too, because the results were fantastic (from going back to the original celluloid film, which turned out to have plenty of extra sideroom).

I'm sure there are folks who wanted the widescreen version of TOS who have managed to obtain the widescreen TOS version somehow. Would it have sold better than the 4:3 version? Who knows. By all rights fans of the "original image" should have been outraged by new special effects, but they ended up liking them, from what I've seen on forums.

By the way I'm sure that eventually the widescreen version of TOS will be released on BluRay, just to keep the sales going (once Paramount feels all the fans have bought the 4:3 version and they need something to make people buy it again). Maybe they'll do the same thing with Star Trek: Next Gen.
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post #88 of 289
9/22/11 at 11:21am
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But why stop there, if filling the screen is so important then why not force all OAR's that are not 16:9 into a 16:9 world? Maybe, because it isn't actually that important.

And indeed many 1.85:1 movies are opened up to 1.77:1 (or whatever the exact aspect ratio of current monitors are) for home video releases.

It's a subtle change, but it happens.
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post #89 of 289
9/22/11 at 11:27am
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And indeed many 1.85:1 movies are opened up to 1.77:1 (or whatever the exact aspect ratio of current monitors are) for home video releases.

It's a subtle change, but it happens.

It's not even subtle, it's virtually imperceptible and not at all related to the issue at hand. Anyone with any type of eye for photography can see the difference between 1.33 and 1.77 but a 0.08 change is something that every cinematographer allows for due to the variances that will occur in theatrical screenings.
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post #90 of 289
9/22/11 at 11:58am

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Open mindedness has no bearing on it. It was shot 1.33 so changing the aspect ratio to 1.78 or 2.35 or anything other than 1.33 simply can never be correct. At 1.78, it may look fine (though I doubt it's going to since every shot was composed for a 1.33 frame) but it shouldn't be about how it looks in an altered framing or that it fills my screen, it should be about preserving what was originally shot.

 

I dont share that opinion.  I just do not cannot hold a TV show such as TNG that often has tons of USELESS info on the screen and is shot in a crude manner in the same regard that I hold a Jim Cameron/ Peter Jackson film who could spend days trying to get the perfect look for a specific shot.  For films I want OAR and demand OAR.

 

On a TV show "its shoot this scene quickly, move to the next" mentality with little (not saying NONE) regard to getting a specific look or intent.  

 

 I was one of the people who would sign every widescreen petition back in the day.  So yes, I love OAR and if want to watch TNG OAR I have the dvds, but I am VERY intrigued by the possibility  about giving TNG a more modern look in 16:9.  


In regard to being "right"  I dont claim that 16:9 is the right thing, I am just saying its what I would prefer IF it can be done in a dynamic and exciting way.  

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