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post #1 of 33
2/18/11 at 1:20pm
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now that thier done with the fugitve it would be nice if they would release twelve o'clock

high

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post #2 of 33
2/18/11 at 1:55pm

It would be a definate purchase for me.

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post #3 of 33
2/18/11 at 3:45pm

"Twelve O'Clock High" is a property of Fox unlike "The Fugitive" (CBS/Paramount).

 

Read this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quinn_Martin

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post #4 of 33
2/18/11 at 4:13pm

As I recall, the episodes aired on the American Life Network a while back looked nice. Someone like Shout should try to license it out (It would certainly look better than Room 222 did).

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post #5 of 33
2/18/11 at 7:51pm

The show is airing now on the national feed of Me-TV, complete and uncut for the first time in over 30 years. Any station that aired the show in the last 3 decade was given pre-cut tape that came in at 46:30. Apparently Fox went back and remastered the show, complete and not time sped.

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post #6 of 33
2/19/11 at 8:01am

FOX is not really interesting in releasing vintage series on DVD: see the failure of "The Big Valley" after a season and a half and the long gap between VOYAGE sets.

The only vintage WWII series they used to offer was "The Rat Patrol".

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post #7 of 33
2/19/11 at 9:25am
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Originally Posted by JohnHopper View Post

FOX is not really interesting in releasing vintage series on DVD: see the failure of "The Big Valley" after a season and a half and the long gap between VOYAGE sets.

The only vintage WWII series they used to offer was "The Rat Patrol".


      Except, Fox didn't offer it. It's an MGM show and the first season came out when Sony was distributing MGM and then the second season when Fox struck a deal to distribute MGM. If it was a Fox show, I guarantee it would still be sitting on the shelf.
     

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post #8 of 33
2/19/11 at 12:03pm
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Originally Posted by LeoAmes View Post

As I recall, the episodes aired on the American Life Network a while back looked nice. Someone like Shout should try to license it out (It would certainly look better than Room 222 did).



The History Channel also aired the entire series several years ago.

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post #9 of 33
7/18/11 at 6:38pm

I've recently been able to re-unite with this series as an Orlando affiliate of MeTV signed on a week ago.  Unfortunately, reception of this affiliate is a bit problematic, but in this digital TV age, when it DOES come in, it's pretty darned good-looking.

 

In the past week, I've captured four episodes, all from the latter color-episode half-season.  I've garnered from their online schedule that after one more color episode tonight, they'll be reverting back to the first season to start the series all over again.  They're not airing in strict airdate order, but are close enough that it won't be too much of a problem to re-assemble them in order, assuming I remain fortunate with the reception problems.

 

I was quite impressed with the way the show looked from these episodes so far.  The color looks crisp and clear, and though it's not a high-def signal, even the blocky compression doesn't look too bad on this show.  I beg to differ with Neil Brock above - the show is slightly time-sped with run-times coming in at around 46:30, but the pitch of voices is not raised at least.  Some of the dialog moves along a bit too quickly, but I'm happy just to be able to see the show again after all these years.

 

The four episodes I've captured all had the "In Color" bumper at the start, and one even had a "12 o'clock HIGH, brought to you by..." bumper at the end just before the 20th Century Fox logo, and all of the credits are being run in full.  It's great to see a station/network treat shows with respect.

 

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The opening "In Color" bumper

 

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A typical frame with Paul Burke, Andrew Duggan, and Barney Phillips.

 

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The "brought to you by..." bumper.

 

I'd buy this series on (legitimate) DVD in a heartbeat, if it were ever to somehow be issued.

 

Harry

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post #10 of 33
11/4/11 at 4:55pm

Beginning tonight at 2 AM Eastern, 12 O'CLOCK HIGH will cycle around again and begin with the Season One episodes on MeTV.  The network now seems to be showing them in air-date order, so tonight's episode is "Golden Boy Had Nine Black Sheep", the first episode of the series, that ironically introduces us to both General Frank Savage (Robert Lansing) and later series lead Paul Burke as Joe Gallagher.

 

On my first run through the series, I managed to collect about 84% of the episodes.  On this next run,  I'll attempt to capture the 14 or so episodes that I either missed entirely or were problematic in the reception area,  Every now and them my digital reception gets wonky and either messes up part of the episode, or even switch my tuner to the main channel instead of the subchannel that MeTV is on.

 

Harry

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post #11 of 33
11/4/11 at 5:24pm
It's not fair that Fox has no problem occasionally giving out their older, pre-Murdoch era shows to cable stations (uncut or cut forms), but they have a problem with that when it comes to putting them out on DVD.
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post #12 of 33
11/4/11 at 7:18pm

Since Fox put my Holy Grail TV show out on DVD (THE TIME TUNNEL) -- and they did a fabulous job on it to boot -- I, personally, have no complaints.  Getting 12 O'CLOCK HIGH on a properly mastered DVD set would be welcome, but I can learn to live with syndicated episodes.  I'd buy it in a heartbeat, but I'm still thankful for the two volumes of THE TIME TUNNEL, wonderfully mastered, with pertinent and welcomed extras, that they put out in 2006.

 

Harry

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post #13 of 33
11/4/11 at 11:20pm
What happened with the show, as well as others on ME-TV, is that they were running them uncut for about the first 3 or 4 months and then I guess they picked up more affiliates (and sold more commercials) so they then must have gotten in pre-cut versions of shows. But my friend recorded episodes when they started airing that came in at 51 minutes. But, of course nothing good ever lasts for very long so now they are back to the 46:30 ones we've been seeing for the last 25 years.
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post #14 of 33
11/5/11 at 3:16am
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What happened with the show, as well as others on ME-TV, is that they were running them uncut for about the first 3 or 4 months and then I guess they picked up more affiliates (and sold more commercials) so they then must have gotten in pre-cut versions of shows. But my friend recorded episodes when they started airing that came in at 51 minutes. But, of course nothing good ever lasts for very long so now they are back to the 46:30 ones we've been seeing for the last 25 years.


The episodes are still uncut, but the body of the show is time-sped.  They run the credits and theme music at normal speed.

 

The key I think is the "more affiliates" part, as the local stations need to have their own inventory of local avails to sell or use as promos.  

 

Harry

 

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post #15 of 33
11/28/11 at 7:41am

Just a note to anyone who's paying attention to the 12 O'CLOCK HIGH run on MeTV:  The schedule is changing as of today.  It appears that the series is moving to 4 AM instead of 2 AM weeknights (ET).  In addition, there's an extra episode now scheduled on Sunday night/Monday morning at the same 4 AM (ET).

 

Harry

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post #16 of 33
11/28/11 at 2:30pm
i tweeted to fox home entertainment about the series on dvd. hoping they will get back to me.
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post #17 of 33
11/28/11 at 4:34pm
Don't be surprised if they don't. Remember, this is Fox we're talking about here, the stingiest of the six major TV production companies. This is the same Fox that licensed out Burke's Law to VCI, and, despite the first two volumes (season 1 of 3) being a strong seller, Fox, FOR SOME REASON, STILL ISN'T SATISIFIED!
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post #18 of 33
11/29/11 at 12:23am
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i tweeted to fox home entertainment about the series on dvd. hoping they will get back to me.

Good luck with that. Let us know how that works out for you. rolleyes.gif
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post #19 of 33
11/29/11 at 10:08am
I would really love to see this series on DVD but there is a less than 1% chance of Fox ever releasing it. The only real hope is if they license it to someone like Shout, MPI or VCI but they seldom do that and they would more than likely want more money than anyone could afford and still make a profit.
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post #20 of 33
11/29/11 at 10:12am
Hell, even if it wasn't for the rights issues, I still think they would be too lazy to license out or release Batman, The Green Hornet, and The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis themselves.

I think the only reason Fox is the worst studio to represent classic TV is due to the current state of their home video division. Whoever is currently running it obviously must have failed economics 101. How those people are still employed is beyond me. They should be fired and blacklisted from the industry this instant.
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post #21 of 33
11/29/11 at 2:40pm

I'm just thankful that a television outlet that I can receive has run the episodes.  With diligence, I've gotten up to 71 of the 78 episodes compiled with one full run-through plus.  The seven I'm missing include five from Season Two and two from Season Three.  Assuming the current scheduling holds through the new year, I could gather the last episode I need on February 4th.

 

It's entirely possible that Fox perceives the show to be somewhat un-PC with its war themes.  Still, if it ever were to go to DVD in a remastered state, I'll grab them up.

 

Harry

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post #22 of 33
1/18/12 at 5:57pm

For anyone who cares (and why would anyone?), I now have 76 of 78 episodes of 12 O'CLOCK HIGH that I've recorded off of the MeTV television service.  And in early February, I should be able to grab the 77th.  

 

One episode in my recording schedule that I needed recorded but had no sound, so I'll have to wait for the cycle to repeat again, and it might be late March until I can get that one.

 

For the record, MeTV currently airs the show Sunday night/Monday morning through Friday night/Saturday morning at 4 AM, for a total of 6 per week, so it now only takes 13 weeks to get through them all. The episodes are intact for the most part, with only time-compression reducing the run-time to 46:03.

 

Harry

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post #23 of 33
1/29/12 at 7:01pm
I would love to see this set released to dvd. I am War buff, not because i support war. I like series that talk about our history, especially fighting in wars, floods, etc. It is important to keep history alive!!
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post #24 of 33
4/8/12 at 2:11pm
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For anyone who cares (and why would anyone?), I now have 76 of 78 episodes of 12 O'CLOCK HIGH that I've recorded off of the MeTV television service.  And in early February, I should be able to grab the 77th.  

One episode in my recording schedule that I needed recorded but had no sound, so I'll have to wait for the cycle to repeat again, and it might be late March until I can get that one.

For the record, MeTV currently airs the show Sunday night/Monday morning through Friday night/Saturday morning at 4 AM, for a total of 6 per week, so it now only takes 13 weeks to get through them all. The episodes are intact for the most part, with only time-compression reducing the run-time to 46:03.

Harry

I am glad you are able to record the episodes. I would love to see VEI picked up this release as they seem to be one of the distributors that is doing lots of work on the 1950/1960s tv series, especially the obscure shows.
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post #25 of 33
4/8/12 at 5:55pm

I did indeed manage to grab that final missing episode on March 29th, completing my quest to see this series again after all these years.  The prints weren't always A+ grade, but were at least serviceable, and sped-up without any edits.

 

I was determined not to spend a dime with the bootleggers out there who are selling sets based on some false premise that 12 O'CLOCK HIGH is in public domain.  I cannot imagine that being the case. MeTV obviously bought the series from *someone*, so *someone* must own it, likely 20th Century Fox.

 

Harry

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post #26 of 33
5/24/12 at 4:33am

Just a notice that MeTV will run the two-part "P.O.W." episodes from season one of 12 O'CLOCK HIGH as part of their Memorial Day salute to servicemen.  The schedule is:

 

07:00 PM M*A*S*H

07:30 PM M*A*S*H

08:00 PM COMBAT!

09:00 PM 12 O'CLOCK HIGH

10:00 PM 12 O'CLOCK HIGH

 

It's the first time I've ever seen them acknowledge 12 O'CLOCK HIGH in their promos!

 

http://www.metvnetwork.com/memorialday.php

 

Harry

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post #27 of 33
5/24/12 at 7:11am
Harry....do you know if DIRECTV carries MeTV???
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post #28 of 33
5/24/12 at 10:09am

MeTV is typically a digital subchannel of a local station.  If DirecTV carries local stations then they might have it.  Typically, local network stations will have a digital subchannel that might have a constant weather feed, some have alternate networks not available on main stations, and some affiliate with these retro networks like MeTV, Antenna TV and RTV.  

 

I'm not a satellite subscriber, so I really don't know.  My sense is that the satellite providers are limited in their bandwidth and don't have room for digital subchannels. You can check your area on the MeTV map and see if there's an over the air affiliate nearby and hook up an antenna to receive it, but since MeTV only reaches between 60 and 70% of the country, there are obvious holes in that approach.

 

I'm lucky enough to live in between two markets that BOTH have MeTV (Orlando and Tampa).  If I could send you one, I would!

 

Harry

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post #29 of 33
5/24/12 at 6:18pm
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Originally Posted by Harry-N View Post

MeTV is typically a digital subchannel of a local station.  If DirecTV carries local stations then they might have it.  Typically, local network stations will have a digital subchannel that might have a constant weather feed, some have alternate networks not available on main stations, and some affiliate with these retro networks like MeTV, Antenna TV and RTV.  

I'm not a satellite subscriber, so I really don't know.  My sense is that the satellite providers are limited in their bandwidth and don't have room for digital subchannels. You can check your area on the MeTV map and see if there's an over the air affiliate nearby and hook up an antenna to receive it, but since MeTV only reaches between 60 and 70% of the country, there are obvious holes in that approach.

I'm lucky enough to live in between two markets that BOTH have MeTV (Orlando and Tampa).  If I could send you one, I would!

Harry

If a local station is carrying MeTV,AntennaTV,RTV on a station's prime (X.1) channel, then it's on DirecTV and Dish, other than that, you have to pick it up off-the-air with a Digital Converter Box and an antenna!
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post #30 of 33
5/24/12 at 7:14pm
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I did indeed manage to grab that final missing episode on March 29th, completing my quest to see this series again after all these years.  The prints weren't always A+ grade, but were at least serviceable, and sped-up without any edits.

I was determined not to spend a dime with the bootleggers out there who are selling sets based on some false premise that 12 O'CLOCK HIGH is in public domain.  I cannot imagine that being the case. MeTV obviously bought the series from *someone*, so *someone* must own it, likely 20th Century Fox.

Harry

Well done, Harry. Have to be aware of those shifty bootleggers rolleyes.gif From what I've seen of Twelve O'Clock High, it looks like a marvelous series. We got it here on cable in Australia also but didn't manage to see the whole series unfortunately. It looks like we got a similar run time here albeit a couple of minutes longer in PAL standard time.
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