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Season 2 starts this Tuesday.  I don't remember much, but I think we left off with the people of earth finally knowing the Vs are a threat.  If so, it should be a fairly fresh start.

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Thanks for the reminder. I didn't really care for the first season but it's a cool idea so I'm willing to stick with it a little while longer.

post #3 of 171

I like the series more than most on here and I can't wait.

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I hope they do a better job with the footage "onboard the ships", but I'm not holding my breath.  The greenscreen CGI stuff was so distractingly bad.

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I may star watching again now that Jane Badler is back reprising her role.

 

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Tonight!

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Interesting premiere. I knew that opening was a dream!

Not sure if it seems contrived to deduce that Erica was experimented with by the aliens. Or if it is a cool thing to be revealed later to be some kind of larger thing.

Why would they want to use humans for breeding if the queen can make more babies. Unless there is some kind of quality they are looking for that results from the hybrid. Sort of a Battlestar Galactica vibe. ( I'm still watching that series on BD, not done yet!)

Jane Badler's reveal was kind of cool, though that lighting wasn't kind to her face. smile.gif
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Jane Badler's reveal was kind of cool, though that lighting wasn't kind to her face

 

I was thinking the same thing.

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I knew the opening sequence was a dream, but wished like heck it wasn't.   This show could have drastically changed it's tone and went a totally different direction if they had pulled that trigger, and showed the earth shockingly now at war etc. etc. etc. The show could have changed tone quickly and it could have went somewhere I think would have been entertaining. Instead "dream" means we are likely to get a season of cloak and dagger. Boring. You could have years of a series of small resistence movement vs. the V with a third faction still believing "peace" is possible.

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At least the writers are trying to write some curiousity into the dialogue between characters in terms of broad motivations.  Let's see if this "Species" spin on things (and it's a call back to the old "V" plotlines), but hopefully with a fresh twist or two on the product of such mating attempts.

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As someone who was pretty critical of the first season, I have to say that I enjoyed the premiere.

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I was hoping some character in the show would have said (w/r/t/ red rain): "They from Mars!!! They're turning Earth into Mars!!!"

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I wonder why they still have to refer to themselves as V's. I haven't seen the original mini series since it originally aired, so I don't recall what they called themselves.

 

I forgot to mention, that sequence were Anna whips one of the ship captain's face off and then kills him was fun gratuitous CGI effects to finally show what they look like. And the baby too.

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...that sequence were Anna whips one of the ship captain's face off and then kills him was fun gratuitous CGI effect...

That was a cool sequence as well, but, given the very form fitting dresses Anna wears, where does she hide that tail?

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...that sequence were Anna whips one of the ship captain's face off and then kills him was fun gratuitous CGI effect...

That was a cool sequence as well, but, given the very form fitting dresses Anna wears, where does she hide that tail?



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post #16 of 171
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We saw something running under her skin before it popped out, so it's internal.  My leap on Erica's phosphorus wouldn't have been to "They experimented on me!" but "What if Ty's dad is a V?"

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...that sequence were Anna whips one of the ship captain's face off and then kills him was fun gratuitous CGI effect...

That was a cool sequence as well, but, given the very form fitting dresses Anna wears, where does she hide that tail?

And when Anna takes the hand of one of the soldiers before she shuts down their life support made me wonder how those long spindly fingers fit onto human sized hands! smile.gif

 

I was wondering also, in the original series, I don't recall any problem with the V's when they ripped off the rubber human skin. In this series, the human outer skin seems to be living and they seem to feel pain when it's damaged. I guess I am referring to last season when Anna ordered a bad V to be skinned. What I wasn't sure was happening was if they were skinning his human skin off? That didn't seem too pleasant a prospect for that V. 
 

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Count me in as one who enjoyed last night's episode more than any hour of the first season. Considering the behind-the-scenes chaos and rapidfire succession of showrunners, it's not surprising that the quality control was nil. Hopefully ABC used the extended hiatus to put a team into place that can maintain at least this level of quality. The introduction of Bret Harrison as the research assistant was a good start. I loved him on Reaper and his character here has more spunk than any of the existing characters.
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Not sure if it seems contrived to deduce that Erica was experimented with by the aliens. Or if it is a cool thing to be revealed later to be some kind of larger thing.

The show made a point of stating that Tyler's father wasn't a full genetic match during the first season, and how his sense of being betrayed led to the divorce. He assumed that the reason he wasn't a complete genetic match was because Tyler was the product of an affair Erica had. It's increasingly likely that he is Tyler's biological father, but that a serious chunk of alien DNA spliced in there threw off the paternity test.
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I wonder why they still have to refer to themselves as V's. I haven't seen the original mini series since it originally aired, so I don't recall what they called themselves.


Considering that they are reptilian creatures underneath, it's likely that the V's real name isn't pronouncable with a human mouth, and that the constraints of speaking in a human skin prevent them from speaking their native language.
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We saw something running under her skin before it popped out, so it's internal.  My leap on Erica's phosphorus wouldn't have been to "They experimented on me!" but "What if Ty's dad is a V?"


Exactly. If they experimented on her, what does that say about Tyler? If Ryan's daughter is on one end of the alien-human hybrid spectrum, it's likely that Tyler's on the other.
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And when Anna takes the hand of one of the soldiers before she shuts down their life support made me wonder how those long spindly fingers fit onto human sized hands! smile.gif

Who's to say they do? The Visitor species is clearly highly differentiated, with different body types depending on their intended purpose. All of the Visitor types we've seen so far are able to fit into a human skin. It's entirely possible that there are many other variations that cannot.
USA Today got an exclusive render of what the Visitors look like under their human skin. It is not very humanoid at all: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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post #19 of 171
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That render set off my Giger [sic] counter!

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Oh now that's pretty classic.   Despite my criticism, I liked the first episode this season more then anything last year.. I just thought they could have went a step farther.

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Does anyone know how many episodes there are this season? If they're starting this late, I'm guessing it's 12 or 13.

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It was going to be 12, but a month or so ago, ABC cut back the order to 10 episodes.

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^ Thanks for the info.

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Hey, did the second season of this start up yet? It was suppose to start sometime around the end of January, right? I cant wait to get back to the slow motion train wreck of a show!

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It started last week.
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Second week in a row that was better than anything we'd seen in season one. It's still not a show I'd mourn if it was cancelled, but the writing is sharper, and the plot holes a little less glaringly obvious. I like the introduction of a philosophical element into the conflict: much like the aliens in "War of the Worlds" were defeated by a simple virus, the emotional capacity of humanity threatens to undermine the Visitors' plans without us needing to fire a single shot. For a species that seems to colonize worlds by creating new variations on itself through interbreeding with the better adapted native populations, it has to be a constant threat that the part that is native overpowers the part that is Visitor. What will it matter if the next generation is green and scaly and cold-blooded if it thinks and acts human? All the Visitors will have done is better adapt humanity to fight them. Having the original Diana be a deposed Queen who once lived among humanity, compared it to her native species and found her own species lacking is a delicious twist. Had Anna not betrayed her mother, the invasion would have probably still happened. But it would have been in a different form, more palatable to humanity, and probably more successful for it.

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Really? Then off to Hulu I go!

 

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The hell - they're not running it on Hulu? How weak is that? Well, off to youtube for a round of catchup I guess.

post #28 of 171

I agree that this show is much better this season than last.  Unfortunately I think they lost too many viewers with the tepid last season for it to survive.

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Goddamned! What a sucktacular opening! But at least we get Jane Badler wearing fishnet stockings and fuck-me red high-heeled red pumps inside of a giant corn husk. That's gotta be worth something. And at least the series didnt dick us around dragging out the "What is that red rain?" for half a season. That's another point in the show's favor.

 

The rest of it? It still doesnt make a lick of sense.They go and talk to Science Nerd (who astoundingly is a doctor of archeology, biology, chemistry, environmental science, and a few dozen other things) and tell him about all the bad things the Visitors have done - the Healing Hospitals, the Blue Energy (which really sounds more like a specialty drink or a Disco group from the seventies than the Salvation of the World) - and yet they fail to back up their assertions with one horrible thing that the aliens have done - aside from poor marketing brand name choices. And speaking of Nerd Doctor, he "carbon-dated" material at the crater to be least fifty years old? I got two words: Fuck and no. Carbon dating doesn't work for material that young. And then he has no idea what this mystery compound is, but Angry Black Man can just look at it and say, "Oh, it's a phosphorus compound." Does this Nerd Doctor even have a science degree?

 

And so Anna flips out and lost her shit and unleashed some godlike terror machine that made the fucking sky bleed for four days. Cool! This means that something is going to happen - Syria is going to launch its entire payload of missles at a mothership! The President addresses the nation urging calm while privately wondering if the bill for all these wonderful alien advancements is finally coming due, and our resistance cell has to deal with dangerous copycats inspired to start whacking Visitors, and Anna realizes she overstepped and is now going to face public distrust. . . .

 

Nope. One speech and everyone completely changes their minds about the rain of blood, and they all is forgiven? Riiiiight.

 

And for someone so immune to human emotions, Anna sure has a LOT of 'em. I'm not talking about flipping out at all her babies being killed, but she's smarmy and smug and pretty casual about showing 'em off. And if Anna can't understand human emotions at all, how is she so good at manipulating ours?

 

But at least Jane Badler looks pretty good after all this time. It might be stunt casting, but it's pretty good stunt casting.


Edited by Tony J Case - 1/12/11 at 1:34am
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It's weird seeing Elizabeth Mitchell in this show about cross-breeding, fertility and babies after watching her in "Lost" and what went down with pregnancies and babies on the island.

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