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post #61 of 86

I liked the series overall.  I liked being in the same boat as they were.  They are aliens they are raising hell, we can only assume the rest of the world is like this too and we are figuring it out as we go along.  Was it the best hour on TV?  No. but there is a lot worse.  Its too bad we will have to wait a year to see what happens.  I didn't expect the ending, and gives them freedom to make next season very interesting.

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post #62 of 86
I'll be back, but this division between soldiers and civilians bothers me. It's the civilians' world too so why should they leave all the fighting to the "pros"? Also, here we have the whole "I'm not shooting at children" thing, which among other things ruined Indiana Jones And The temple Of Doom for me. I mean, c'mon, if somebody's shooting at me, I'm gonna shoot back. Sure, if I can get the Skitter controller, fine, but sometimes this isn't possible. And harnessed children can kill me just as dead as Skitter mechs. And this whole Skitters are really something else--maybe, horrors, kids--has been done to death. And I promise you right now that Noah Wylie will return preaching that we must find a modus vivendi with our alien visitors. Shades of Robert Cornthwaite!

PatH
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I'll be back, but this division between soldiers and civilians bothers me. It's the civilians' world too so why should they leave all the fighting to the "pros"? Also, here we have the whole "I'm not shooting at children" thing, which among other things ruined Indiana Jones And The temple Of Doom for me. I mean, c'mon, if somebody's shooting at me, I'm gonna shoot back. Sure, if I can get the Skitter controller, fine, but sometimes this isn't possible. And harnessed children can kill me just as dead as Skitter mechs. And this whole Skitters are really something else--maybe, horrors, kids--has been done to death. And I promise you right now that Noah Wylie will return preaching that we must find a modus vivendi with our alien visitors. Shades of Robert Cornthwaite!

PatH


I disagree about the soldiers vs. civilians division.  If I'm in that situation I'm looking for a competent military/ex-military person to lead for several reasons.  If they were an officer or NCO they should have leadership ability.  They also have weapons and tactics training that I don't.  Eventually as the civilians become more seasoned and trained there is going to be less of a distinction.

 

I agree with you about the kids.  If they are kids I know I would hesitate, especially if they could be unharnessed, but if they are shooting at me I'm going to at least try to neutralize the threat.

 

Yes the skitters has been done before, but the family drama of having the change happen to family members is where the payoff is I think.

 

I hope you are wrong on his return, but we will see.

 

post #64 of 86
It's not that I want the civilians in control of tactics and strategy, but that I want those same civilians to realize that it's their world too and they should step up and play their part: learn how to use weapons to contribute to the overall effort, etc. If this seasoning occurs in the course of the series, well and good. It is, I think, a variant of the concept of shared sacrifice. All should have a part to play instead of depending solely on the pros while you are herded around to keep you safe. The strategy should be to defeat the invader and in so doing keep the civilians as safe as possible instead of keeping the civilians safe at all costs.

PatH
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It's not that I want the civilians in control of tactics and strategy, but that I want those same civilians to realize that it's their world too and they should step up and play their part: learn how to use weapons to contribute to the overall effort, etc. If this seasoning occurs in the course of the series, well and good. It is, I think, a variant of the concept of shared sacrifice. All should have a part to play instead of depending solely on the pros while you are herded around to keep you safe. The strategy should be to defeat the invader and in so doing keep the civilians as safe as possible instead of keeping the civilians safe at all costs.

PatH


Got it.
 

 

post #66 of 86
I finally got to watch Prisoner Of War last night (DVR'd from the weekend's marathon). I liked it, and wish I had seen it when it first aired. I also got to see the first seven or so minutes of Live and Learn, which I missed the first time it aired. Prisoner Of War showcased the aliens rather nicely. I can't recall having seen them this often in any other episode (unless you count the one in which the captured alien was interrogated, etc.).

I will be watching the two-part season one closer this weekend. I'm looking forward to it, and I'm pleased that there is at least one more season of Falling Skies.
post #67 of 86
funny. i saw a promo that this will be back this summer. i am really surprised that this got renewed.

http://www.tnt.tv/series/fallingskies/
post #68 of 86

It was renewed before the first episode aired; and the ratings were quite good.. why the surprise?

post #69 of 86
Quintessential summer programming. Not good enough to make my winter schedule, but gives me something to watch during the lean months.
post #70 of 86
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It was renewed before the first episode aired; and the ratings were quite good.. why the surprise?

Also knew about the renewal long ago. I really enjoyed it. Much more of an emotional show rather than a CGI filled piece of dreck. Looking forward to its return.

Read somewhere that it's similar to Terra Nova and started filming months ago, even though it won't appear until summer. Although probably a lot looser in their filming schedule since they're not in Australia.
post #71 of 86
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It was renewed before the first episode aired; and the ratings were quite good.. why the surprise?

although i watched the entire season i thought it was poorly written. and the score often took me out of the show.
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and the score often took me out of the show.

Diallo,

I would love to have you elaborate on this, if you're willing.
post #73 of 86
Thread Starter 

New season starting June 17th.  I'm looking forward to this.  It's a nice summer filler.

And, I'm hoping they got a slightly larger budget this time around.

post #74 of 86

I'm looking forward to Season 2 and will be picking up Season 1 on Blu-ray.  Here is a preview of Season 2:

 

post #75 of 86
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New season starting June 17th.  I'm looking forward to this.  It's a nice summer filler.
And, I'm hoping they got a slightly larger budget this time around.

So glad this is coming back. Kind of like James Cameron's movies, it's got the emotional story behind things, not just a bunch of special effects.
post #76 of 86
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Diallo,
I would love to have you elaborate on this, if you're willing.

the score for this show sounds like a 1980's after school special score. it irritates me to no end. if music is going to be added to a scene i would prefer that it have some dramatic impact. often the score is just really immature sounding to me. that is the best way i can explain it.
post #77 of 86
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It was renewed before the first episode aired; and the ratings were quite good.. why the surprise?

[shrug] i would have rather the 4400 gotten renewed instead. [/shrug]
post #78 of 86
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it's got the emotional story behind things, not just a bunch of special effects.

i agree with this. however, some of the decision making of some of the characters is extra damn dumb. i just cant imagine being in some of the situations that these folks are in and some of the decisions that are made. and there are far too many instances of kids, and in some cases adults, doing dumb stuff. that just doesn't seem all that realistic to me given the circumstances that these people are in. some of these decisions can literally lead to the demise of the entire group. smh......
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post #79 of 86
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[shrug] i would have rather the 4400 gotten renewed instead. [/shrug]
The 4400 was canceled years ago and wasn't even on TNT.
post #80 of 86
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It was renewed before the first episode aired; and the ratings were quite good.. why the surprise?

Never knew this, but glad it happened.

To bad Terra Nova didn't get the same consideration.
post #81 of 86
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[shrug] i would have rather the 4400 gotten renewed instead. [/shrug]

 

I enjoyed 4400 as well.. but let's cover this:

 

 

It had a dismal ratings 1st season, and they renewed it anyway hoping it'd grow; and it didn't.  As far as that goes, USA stuck with 4400 longer then a lot of networks would have.   So, I can't blame USA for that one.

post #82 of 86
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i agree with this. however, some of the decision making of some of the characters is extra damn dumb. i just cant imagine being in some of the situations that these folks are in and some of the decisions that are made. and there are far too manyinstances of kids, and in some cases adults, doing dumb stuff. that just doesn't seem all that realistic to me given the circumstance that these people are in. some of these decisions can literally lead to the demise of the entire group. smh......

Agree with you on the dumb decisions, but I still enjoy the show, just overlook the flaws and really dumb decisions and keep watching. The whole quasi-military group versus the civilians is rather silly, but with television and movies, we as an audience have little choice. This has enough positives to keep me watching and ignore the silly situations that sometimes happen.
post #83 of 86
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The 4400 was canceled years ago and wasn't even on TNT.

ummm.... i still would have rathered the 4400 had gotten renewed years ago on a different station....
post #84 of 86
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ummm.... i still would have rathered the 4400 had gotten renewed years ago on a different station....

And........ I'd rather have gotten a bigger raise at work than either being renewed (though I like both). But one has nothing to do with the other, so, umm, yeah
post #85 of 86
A bit off topic, and since this show is safe, just curious how some other shows get cancelled, Except for the situation comedies and a few other minor shows that are filmed shortly before they air, most shows are filmed, edited, special effects added, etc. many months before they air.It's pretty obvious when they're showing an episode set in summer yet all the trees are dormant and snow is on the ground.

Not counting things like Desperate Housewives which seems to always have a perfectly gorgeous Wisteria Lane.

What I'm curious about is shows that have a huge lead time between filiming and airing, why are things cancelled when they've already spent loads of money on episodes that will never be seen? Why not let things like Awake, Missing, Terra Nova and others end properly instead of writing in a quickie version that ends the show.

Hope I didn't hijack this thread, love Falling Skies and am so glad it's returning. But even Falling Skies comes into question. What if people hated it and the network decided to drop it? From the teasers I've seen it looks like they were already filming last summer and fall. If the ratings weren't that great they'd just dump it? Leaving who knows how many episodes in limbo, never to be seen.

I'm probably analyzing things a bit to much, but some perfectly decent shows have been dumped, when the networks could have easily shown the "unseen" episodes to provide some type of closure.
post #86 of 86
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A bit off topic, and since this show is safe, just curious how some other shows get cancelled, Except for the situation comedies and a few other minor shows that are filmed shortly before they air, most shows are filmed, edited, special effects added, etc. many months before they air.It's pretty obvious when they're showing an episode set in summer yet all the trees are dormant and snow is on the ground.
Not counting things like Desperate Housewives which seems to always have a perfectly gorgeous Wisteria Lane.
What I'm curious about is shows that have a huge lead time between filiming and airing, why are things cancelled when they've already spent loads of money on episodes that will never be seen? Why not let things like Awake, Missing, Terra Nova and others end properly instead of writing in a quickie version that ends the show.
Hope I didn't hijack this thread, love Falling Skies and am so glad it's returning. But even Falling Skies comes into question. What if people hated it and the network decided to drop it? From the teasers I've seen it looks like they were already filming last summer and fall. If the ratings weren't that great they'd just dump it? Leaving who knows how many episodes in limbo, never to be seen.
I'm probably analyzing things a bit to much, but some perfectly decent shows have been dumped, when the networks could have easily shown the "unseen" episodes to provide some type of closure.

i think its a cost/benefit ratio with certain networks with the shortest leash being on broadcast networks. if a certain show can not command a certain advertising rate based on sponsors (commercials) then the network does not feel as though it has a good enough of cost/benefit ratio in order to justify its continued existence on the network. in other words, if enough people are not watching then the network can not charge advertisers enough money to cover the cost of the show to the network.

think about the superbowl. the nfl can charge 3 million bux for 30 seconds because that is one of, if not the most watched programs of the year.

with that said, i agree that if a show has already been filmed there is no harm in simply burning off the remaining episodes. and that is also another reason why unless i have great interest in a show, especially on a broadcast station, i will wait for the first season to complete. i have been burned too many times with shows that i liked that either got the ax mid season or the show was left on a cliff hanger that will never be resolved.
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