Dexter Season 5

Won't be able to watch this until Monday nights this season and it's torture, I tell you!  TORTURE!

Me too on Mondays, but Mondays will consist of dexter, Boardwalk Empire , and Bored to Death. Can't Beat that with a stick.

Mondays here, too. Sundays are reserved for THE SIMPSONS and Seth McFarlane's trilogy of hilarity.

UPDATE: Just saw the premiere ep., and I was really hoping, though, he would have faked his own death and gone on the run. Quinn looked like he lost some weight. Loev the fact that Peter Weller's on it.

Decent set up to the season.  Although I don't know about the Deb/Quinn hookup on Dexter's kitchen floor.  Was that really necessary and/or would that really happen?

So killing that guy in the bathroom seemed pretty sloppy for Dexter.  That's gotta come back to haunt him.  And you gotta think there were cameras somewhere at that place.

Shawn, I agree I was hoping he would run off and the season would be about Dexter missing.  Not sure about faking his own death though.

Yeah, I think you're right on that one. There's no place you can go nowadays that doesn't have some kind of surveillance cameras.
 

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So killing that guy in the bathroom seemed pretty sloppy for Dexter.  That's gotta come back to haunt him.  And you gotta think there were cameras somewhere at that place.

 

I've been thinking lately when this series finally comes to and end, how will it happen? Will Dexter finally be caught, and found out by the ones closest to him, and put through a trial? If so, does he get life, or the death penalty? Or, does he disappear, like I thought he was going to this season, and we get a season long manhunt? Or, does he end up either getting killed, or sacrificing his life for a percieved greater good? I have considered all of these, trying to second guess the show's creators.  

I've been wondering that since season 1.  I don't think he'll go to prison.  He'll either die some tragic death or go in hiding, and that's how the show will end.  Would be interesting to see other characters reactions though.  If you think about it, now that Rita's gone, would any of the other characters other than maybe Deb be truly surprised if they found out the truth?  While I was glad they killed off Rita, one negative about it is that we'll never see what her reaction would have been.  Though I suspect it would have been something along the lines of, "HOLY CRAP!"

Hey, how did you do that with the Spoiler Warning, having to click on it, to show it. I like that. I was always wondering how they Dexter and Rita came to meet, and how much he was on a "working date."

Quinn is venturing into dangerous territory here. Anyone remember Doakes?

Oh, wait, I you're commenting on last night's episode. I won't be seeing it until tonight. Thank God, you didn't reveal any more than I already know.

I was still commenting on last week's. Because of Sunday night's Animation Domintion on Fox, I don't watch Dex until Monday nights.

As you can tell below I have mastered the art of the Spoiler Quote. 

I think the Astor reaction is right on the money. Even adults often have to find someone (anyone) to blame. Even knowing it's wrong to do so, that's still the initial emotional inclination. There's the  classic story about the man coming home from work frustrated and kicking the pet. As if the pet did anything. Astor has had problems with Dexter in the past. They worked through it. I thought she explained her feelings pretty well when she talked about not so much blaming him for mom being dead, or even that he can't react as she thinks he should, but because she was adjusted to her previous no-dad life. Then Dexter comes along and gets her to believe things could be even better. She finally opens up to that concept, settles in a little bit, and then this happens. It'd be hard for me to think any reaction is too far off base at this point. If she walked out in front of a bus, I'd still say she's acting within the range of, "Understandable."

One of my favorite scenes of the whole episode was the Breakfast scene with the cooking of the pancakes, Astor comes in seeming much happier, and then sets the table with 4 plates and her whole demeanor just implodes.    An amazing little job for a young actress to get that transition so right -- just devastatingly painful to watch her face melt.

Nothing is going right for Dexter this season.  Having babies will do that to ya.

Guess I missed who the girl was at the end. She could'nt been one of Boyd's victims since he did'nt know about going to the "Kill Room"  Who was she?

Julia Stiles - Dexter was at Boyd's house setting up an improvised room.  She saw Dexter through the window/door.

He should've just said - "I'm Batman" and left it at that.  Play up the superhero angle so he can let her go.  Although he really can't do that since there's no guarantee she won't talk.

I'm curious, is this the beginning of Dexter turning to the Darkside, I mean, more than usual? As in now he's gonna have to kill someone innocent just so  he can keep his secret. That would be an interesting plot twist, have him inch closer to being a "real serial killer," where his vicitms are no longer those who are pychos themselves, but regular folk.

I wonder if that would kill the ratings, turning him into the bad guy.

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I'm curious, is this the beginning of Dexter turning to the Darkside, I mean, more than usual? As in now he's gonna have to kill someone innocent just so  he can keep his secret. That would be an interesting plot twist, have him inch closer to being a "real serial killer," where his vicitms are no longer those who are pychos themselves, but regular folk.

He essentially already did that with Doakes.  I know he didn't "pull the trigger" so to speak, but that's certainly where it was headed.

Speaking of Lila, what's with the new nanny?  I couldn't help but think she's somehow tied to Lila.

I enjoyed the episode, but I notice the writing getting a little lazier as the seasons go on.  Like Dexter injecting the killer's neck, but not holding on to him?  I bet if you look back at every time he did that, he NEVER let go of the person.  Also, no one finds the syringe?  That's a little ridiculous.

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Like Dexter injecting the killer's neck, but not holding on to him?  I bet if you look back at every time he did that, he NEVER let go of the person.  Also, no one finds the syringe?  That's a little ridiculous.

This was just plain sloppy planning for Dexter to fall victim like that. I mean, what the hell?! Broad daylight, the dude was holding a tranq gun, didn't grab the fucker . . . that's not the Dex I know. I'm gonna assume it's the loss of the kids and Rita that still have him seriously off his game.

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Originally Posted by SWFF 

I'm curious, is this the beginning of Dexter turning to the Darkside, I mean, more than usual? As in now he's gonna have to kill someone innocent just so  he can keep his secret. That would be an interesting plot twist, have him inch closer to being a "real serial killer," where his vicitms are no longer those who are pychos themselves, but regular folk.

This isn't the first time he's been seen.  Wasn't there a scene in an earlier season where he killed a couple in a trailer (in a junkyard) and someone was peeking through a trunk keyhole?  Can't remember much else about that.  I'm sure she'd keep quiet about her rescuer.  They guy never came back and she eventually managed to escape.

But, of course, since the woman is a known actress this storyline is far from over.


 

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Originally Posted by ScottH 

I enjoyed the episode, but I notice the writing getting a little lazier as the seasons go on.  Like Dexter injecting the killer's neck, but not holding on to him?  I bet if you look back at every time he did that, he NEVER let go of the person.  Also, no one finds the syringe?  That's a little ridiculous.

Re: Not holding on to the victim - common argument: then there wouldn't have been drama.  And they needed to move the murder to the house.

Re: the syringe - Yeah.  I expected him to toss it into the bush when he realized he was passing out. 

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This was just plain sloppy planning for Dexter to fall victim like that. I mean, what the hell?! Broad daylight, the dude was holding a tranq gun, didn't grab the fucker . . . that's not the Dex I know. I'm gonna assume it's the loss of the kids and Rita that still have him seriously off his game.

That's exactly what Harry said.  He was being sloppy and careless but Dexter didn't care.  He needed his 'fix'.

EDIT: Thinking about it, killing the guy was a big risk.  They were both taken to the hospital, now one is dead and will be reported as missing by his bosses.  He might be recognized by the hospital staff, and Dexter as well for being with him.  If the girl then shows up as escaping a serial killer (she won't be able to just go home, shower, and get on with her life) everything will get put together and even more focus gets put on Dexter.

But this wouldn't be the first time the suspected course of events turns out to be forgotten about.  Such as the guy Dex killed in the bathroom.  If that story was going to be pursued it would have by now.

Masuka's re-enacting of the crime scene is hilarious. Nice to see him back to his old, perverted self again. How I missed thee.

What an intense episode. I was lliterally on the edge of my seat when Dexter was dragging that guy away while Deb was just around the corner. I thought he was going to get caught and have to lie his way out of it.

This season is insane. I have no idea what's going to happen but I know its going to be a crazy ride.

Agreed.  I was a little surprised that there have been less comments.  I am loving this season.  Both Dexter and the PD have their own significant targets; Dexter's new counterpart is very compelling; and his home life is complicated enough to have an effect on the workings of his dark passenger.  I also like what they are doing with Quinn and hius suspicions.  About the only plotline I didn't like was LaGuerta and Angel fighting over such stuff, but they seem to have done away with the silliness last night.  I do think there was a mistake in there being some "policy" that the uniforms couldn't enter a facility before the detectives and that they'd call Dexter and Matsouka before the uniforms or anyone else even confirmed a crime scene, but I was able to overlook it.  Anyone a cop that can explain why the uniforms would have to wait outside before anyone ascertained whether someone could be hurt inside and that time was of the essence?

Deb didn't have a warrant either, so that wasn't the issue.  The report was that there was shots fired and possible homicide, which means someone may have been in danger (and in fact was) with the perp possibly inside.  That pretty much not only allows, but mandates, the officers to go right in I would think.

While Dexter's use of his victim was clever, I couldn't help thinking the whole thing wouldn't hold up to closer scrutiny and autopsy.  The rapist has his neck snapped, and the 'mummy' was apparently strangled.  Who killed who?

While I love both the show and the books I'm always annoyed when something I think should become a major headache for Dexter never materializes.  I was expecting this season to be about Dexter trying to escape the heat of the Trinity episode but that's all but gone (except for Quinn's suspicions).  Then you have the bathroom murder early in the season, etc.

Unrelated to the above - I wonder how closely the writers work with the author of the books.  The last book, while having a completely different plot, does share similarities to this season - that is... ah I'll spoilerize this because I know I like going into  some things blind, but it's pretty minor:

Hey Paul -

Funny how tastes differ.    What is an annoyance to you is refreshing to me.  I like that there are loose ends.  It's more true to life.  For me, not every hint or lingering shot has to be a foreshadow for something down the road. It enables the writers to keep me guessing.  If I KNEW that every mistake was going to come back later, I'd be preoccupied with trying to guess where something was going to come back, instead of being surprised when the writers went a different direction.  I like when the writers are a couple of steps ahead of me, and the Dexter writers have never failed to disappoint.  Then again, I liked the Russian in the woods in the Sopranos.

We also disagree on the books.  I've read them all and find the series to be much more enjoyable.  The last book got a little too far for me into the mystical to where I just didn't believe what I was reading.  To each his own.

If you are also looking for loose ends, don't forget that Dexter probably didn't have time to clean the crime scene and Lumen's fingerprints are everywhere, including the hose nozzle, which Vince has an interest in.  And we already know her fingerprints are in the database.