NFL 2010 Regular Season Discussion Thread - Page 4

I have to say the Chargers’ special teams have been bad so far this year but let’s not sell the other teams short. In the case of the Raiders they obviously saw a flaw in the Chargers’ blocking and executed a rush that took advantage of the flaw.

The Chargers should still win the West since it appears to be a rather weak division but I have to say the window of opportunity for them to win the SB appears to be closing if it hasn’t already closed.

As for the Raiders, it will be interesting to see if they can finally win two games in a row. Somehow I doubt they will win next Sunday.

The Saints loss this weekend kinda tainted the Falcons win over the Saints.  Heh.  I guess the Reggie Bush factor is coming into play for the Saints offensive scoring woes.

The 2-3 [  ] Lions will no doubt be pleased that this is at least being looked at.

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It does seem like a dumb rule. If he had "both feet and a knee on the ground," then the play is over. What happens to the ball after that should be irrelevant. If he were at mid-field, he would have been ruled down as soon as the knee hit and the play would have been over.

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Originally Posted by Scott Merryfield 

 

What is even more dumb is that Johnson, supposedly a "professional", did not understand the rule for performing one of the most basic functions of his job -- catching the ball.  Instead he was too concerned about celebrating instead of securing the ball. That is his fault -- not the league's.

It's like that player a couple seasons ago who streaked away for the touchdown, but then dropped the ball just before he reached the goal line to begin celebrating. Fortunately the fumble was recovered by his teammate and they were able to score from the 1 yard line. 

Like it's somehow cool to score the touchdown, but not cool to hold on to the ball in the actual end zone.  I'd seen this type of thing several times in college, and I think this was a rookie NFL player. They would often drop the ball the split-second after they crossed the goal line. In this case, he dropped it a split-second too early.
 

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Originally Posted by Malcolm R 

 

 

It does seem like a dumb rule. If he had "both feet and a knee on the ground," then the play is over. What happens to the ball after that should be irrelevant. If he were at mid-field, he would have been ruled down as soon as the knee hit and the play would have been over.

Actually, that rule applies all over the field.  And what happens to the ball, ie possession, is the whole point of the rule.  Let's say you catch a ball, fall on your knees, land on the ball, and then the ball squirts out.  Is that a catch?  It isn't, because it doesn't exhibit control.  They should make it clearer in the rule as to what constitutes control, but I agree with Scott -- if Johnson was as aware of the rules as he should have been and not so clouded by the anticipation of celebration, he would have hung on to the ball all the way through.  It's no different than when DeSean Jackson let the ball go inches from the goal line and resulted in a fumble.  And to be clear, I am equating both players' inability to follow the rules, not the differences in possession.

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Originally Posted by Malcolm R 

 

It's like that player a couple seasons ago who streaked away for the touchdown, but then dropped the ball just before he reached the goal line to begin celebrating. Fortunately the fumble was recovered by his teammate and they were able to score from the 1 yard line. 

 

Like it's somehow cool to score the touchdown, but not cool to hold on to the ball in the actual end zone.  I'd seen this type of thing several times in college, and I think this was a rookie NFL player. They would often drop the ball the split-second after they crossed the goal line. In this case, he dropped it a split-second too early.
 

That was DeSean Jackson from the Eagles.  I could of sworn after seeing that he would always be an "issue", seems to have shaped up into a great player since then.
 

The Chargers might as well just stay home the rest of the year. I'd be embarassed to take the field after getting beat down by the Raiders and Rams in consecutive weeks.

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You know that San Diego is going to beat the Patriots.  You just know it -- probably 38-14.

Rivers was sacked seven (7!) times yesterday.  What is wrong with that offensive line?

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You know that San Diego is going to beat the Patriots.  You just know it -- probably 38-14.

 

Rivers was sacked seven (7!) times yesterday.  What is wrong with that offensive line?

Must be that new left tackle that just signed a long term contract  As for beating the Pats, even though it is at home, I doubt it.  The Patriots play like pros.  The Chargers, not so much.

I was reading an article about the game and it referred to the Chargers having the 2nd ranked offense and defense ( or something really close to that) going into that game.  So how does a team ranked that high in offense and defense end up 2-4?  Simple, they're the Chargers.

I think we now have a trend here, Turner simply cannot get him team ready to play when the season starts.  4 years in a row they start 2-3 and now they are 2-4.  I sincerely hope this is his  last season in San Diego.  He should be an offensive coordinator, he has no business being a head coach.

After watching the Patriots - Ravens game yesterday, I think the Ravens are one of the best -- if not the best -- teams in the NFL this year.  Their defense looks almost as good as it did in 2001.  And while some of the announcers were touting how good the Ravens offense(?) is this year, IMO it's primarily their defense that has them at 4-2 (and almost at 5-1).  I wouldn't want my team facing them in the playoffs.  Just ask the Jets and Pittsburgh.

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Originally Posted by Johnny Angell 

Must be that new left tackle that just signed a long term contract  As for beating the Pats, even though it is at home, I doubt it.  The Patriots play like pros.  The Chargers, not so much.

 

As a part-time Patriot fan (I have to split time with the Steelers to keep peace in the family), I'm not so sure about the Pats beating the Chargers. I think the offense is over-hyped by all the talking heads on the tube. It sputtered for most of the day yesterday. They have a decent run defense, but they don't have much of an answer for defending the pass. And the Chargers can be explosive if they can get their act together.

Then again I have to hope that the Patriots can at least rise to the level of the Rams and Raiders.

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Originally Posted by Malcolm R 

Then again I have to hope that the Patriots can at least rise to the level of the Rams and Raiders.

Here are some quotes from the S.D. paper to put your comment into perspective:

No thoughts on this weekend's games?

--Browns clobber the defending champion Saints? Yes, that was the "Browns," aided by Brees' four interceptions?

Don't know what's going on down in the Big Easy, but it doesn't look like the Saints are any danger to repeat.

--Chargers leave a live ball just laying on the field...twice?

Instead of on-field practice this week, I think Turner just needs to sit everyone in a classroom and go over the NFL rule book. Remedial reading. The fact that they still had a chance to win the game after all that speaks volumes to how overrated the anemic Patriot offense has been this season. Yes, the Pats have been scoring quite a few points, but a good share of those are scored by the defense and special teams.

--The half-replay reversal in Miami vs. Pittsburgh?

I'm not sure what other call could be made. There was definitely no way to see in the replay who had possession at the bottom of the pile, and after the on-field call was a touchdown, the officials didn't bother to dismantle the pile to check. But it still seems like a cheap ending to the game. Maybe they should do another coin-toss in those situations, similar to a jump ball in NBA when possession isn't clear?

--Favre throws three picks and apparently gets teary-eyed...again...in the locker room?

Don't know why Favre keeps breaking down. I don't even really like the man, but it was a small group of Vikings who essentially twisted his arm to come back yet again. They are the ones who should be taking the blame for the implosion for insisting that a past-his-prime QB lead their team.

--Cutler throws four interceptions to the same defensive player?

Cutler's always been overrated IMO. I've never understood why he seemed to be "in demand" as a QB. And he's obviously insane if he keeps making the same pass to the same player/area and expecting a different result. Apparently that area/player is well-covered Jay, throw it somewhere else.

The Raiders scored 59 points in one game!

The Raiders score 59 against the Broncos in Denver?  .

The Niners lose to a winless Panther team?  (O.K., not so surprising).

But the Niners (1-6) coach says they'll still make the playoffs   . Alex Smith goes down, so they bring in Carr who proves he's no better than anyone else they've had over the last few years. What a mess  .

Aaron Rodgers throws several passes to Casper the Friendly Ghost?   (There wasn't anybody anywhere near where he threw the ball).

On the other hand, it's a good thing my job isn't being televised live  .

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The Raiders scored 59 points in one game!

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Originally Posted by gene c 

The Raiders score 59 against the Broncos in Denver?  .

 

Aaron Rodgers throws several passes to Casper the Friendly Ghost?   (There wasn't anybody anywhere near where he threw the ball).

 

 

Yeah, I forgot about the Raiders. I wonder if Al Davis was awake to see the event?

Those Rodgers passes were weird. I thought maybe he lost a contact lens or something. Once is a miscommunication, 4 or 5 times is just ridiculous.

I keep waiting for Mike Singletary's head to explode, Scanners style, at the end of one of these Niners games.

The NFL came out and said the TD to Shianco should of never been overturned.  I've watched a lot of games this year, but that Packers Vikings game was the worst officiated game I can remember this year. 

I'm a Cowboys fan, but will someone please tell me why this team at 1-5 deserves so much air time?  Must be the first team in NFL history to start 1-5 but the media is not ready to say they are done. 

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I'm a Cowboys fan, but will someone please tell me why this team at 1-5 deserves so much air time?  Must be the first team in NFL history to start 1-5 but the media is not ready to say they are done. 

The Sunday nite and Monday nite games are generally decided before the season.

Cuz they're "America's Team," don-cha know? *Yeeeeeeeeeee-Haaaaw!*  If ya don't like the Cowboys, you must be a freakin' Commie! 

Seriously, though, who knows. There are teams in every sport that seem to gain a lion's share of the attention while other teams are forgotten. In baseball, we're all supposed to bow and scrape at the altar of the Yankess and Red Sox. In basketball, the Celtics and Lakers.

"So, when the Bills finally win a game will the 2008 Detroit Lions pop the champagne?"

LOL!  Good one.  A little sad, but still funny.

I read that the Vikings are trying to get the trade rescinded so they get their 3rd round pick back from the Pats, and the Pats get Moss back.  Weird.

Moss' heart sure does seem still to be with New England.  But there are a plethora of teams ahead of the Patriots -- assuming they even wanted him back -- who could claim him first.  I'm wondering if Moss not only likes Bill B., but also realizes that a 2-5 team has a very good chance of not even making the playoffs.  Hmmm.

That was an okay game last night.  I was rooting for the Texans, but I didn't think a season sweep of the Colts would occur.  Despite all of their injuries, Indianapolis can still put the ball in the endzone almost at will.  This has something to do with a guy named Manning.

"It wouldn't surprise me if he cleared waivers and then resigned with New England."

This is where I am leaning at present as well.  I don't think I'd mind seeing it happen.  I like the idea of having a contributing (happy?) Moss paired with Branch as deep threats, and Welker and Tate (among others) for shorter gains.  Now if we could only get Moss not to speak until after a (possible) Super Bowl victory....