Spare us all! Another Indiana Jones film could be on the way

I think it's great if it does happen.  Sure, Indy IV wasn't great, but it had it's moments.  Those moments make me think it's possible Lucas and Spielberg still have what it takes to make a great Indiana Jones movie.  For me it's a no-lose situation.  If I like it, I've got another great Indiana Jones movie to watch.  If I don't like it, I ignore it.

I only liked 1 and 3. Not a fan of 2 or 4. So, i guess i am 50/50 on Mr. Jones.

I would have little hope for this movie.

Harrison Ford must not be getting as many "A" list movie roles coming his way anymore. THAT is why they will make another.

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I only liked 1 and 3. Not a fan of 2 or 4. So, i guess i am 50/50 on Mr. Jones.

 

I only liked 1 and 3 also.  So that means I'll like 5, right? 

I like all four of them, but the first is obviously the best. The rest is good, too, but nowhere near the first one. I never understood the hatred of Temple of Doom, at least that one didn't try to copy the first one, unlike Crusade.

I welcome another Indiana Jones adventure. I don't insist that it be perfect. I would rather see another than not see another.

I think that if then had Indy play less of a role and Mutt take more of the lead, it might work as a transition type move. But then I guess it wouldn't be an Indiana Jones movie with out Indy in it. Anyway I would like to see another.

If they do another, and I truly hope they do NOT, they should kill Mutt off in the first 5 minutes and let Indy ride off into the sunset for good with a little dignity attached. Next to the absolutely god-awful script, LaBeouf was the worst thing about Indy 4 IMO.

Minimalism.

That's what I want from the next Indiana Jones film.

Minimalism.

I want to see elderly Dr. Jones explore / discover / investigate, get into trouble, take risks, and be at risk with only a whisper / hint / faint suggestion of the ethereal. I have an idea of his internal business, but I hesitate to go into that.

Minimalism resonates.

The original is great. I love it. It's untouchable. Every sequel since then is hit and miss, and I think they each hit more than they miss. Yes, even Crystal Skull. So I don't mind another one. I love the character and I love the world.

Is this why the original three still aren't on Blu-ray?? I suppose they'll finally be released as a promotion for the new film.

Agreed. Let them make a thousand IJ movies if they want. Let them make as many remakes. Doesn't take away the originals.

While I think that Crystal Skull is the weakest of the four, I think it was very over criticized.

Probably, but since they announced Star Wars for Blu in 2011, I find it unlikely Lucasfilm with release they other tentpole franchise in the same year. Although I can't entirely remember if the trilogies were released on DVD in the same year.

I liked Indy 4 fine, and would enjoy another one. Hopefully they spend more time on the screenplay, since Harrison Ford made it clear he can still play the role.

I have to disagree with the sentiment behind the title of this thread. I welcome a fifth Indy movie. I enjoyed the 4th - sure, it's not as good as Crusade or Raiders, but I still found it to be a worthy addition to the series. 

I was kind of ambivalent about the 4th one .... it was ... kind of dull and a bit boring. It wasn't completely terrible though. I'd be down for another one, but they should probably get rolling on it asap. 

Replace Shia LaBoof and I'd be all for it.

Count me in as someone who would welcome another adventure.  IJ at its worst is still better than the majority of the garbage released (IMO) today.

I enjoyed the 4th one as well. About the only thing I really didn't like was the poor cgi during the jungle chase scene. Ending with the wedding though seemed a fitting end to the character.

To be honest, I always felt they should have pulled a Bond with the character though. Kept him mid 30ish and updated the actor from time to time. We could have been on the 10th film or beyond by now.

Here's one thing that bothered me about 4. And maybe someone can correct me if I'm interpreting it wrong, but I felt that Indy was too cooperative with the enemy.  To me it seemed way out of character.  For example, in the beginning at the warehouse, I don't think the old Indy would have cooperated with the Russians.  But here we get him leading them right to the artifact they wanted.  Sure, he may have just been buying time to escape, but I still think it was out of character for him to be that accommodating.  I picture the old Indy telling them to "go to hell", getting roughed up, and then finding some way to escape.  I can't remember specifically, but even in the jungle camp, I think I remember him being a bit overly helpful to the Russians.  It just seemed out of character for him.

Strangely enough, one scene that I always hear everyone complaining about is the refrigerator scene.  That's actually one of my favorite sequences.  So I could just be nuts.

Heaven forbid someone in Hollywood would plan to make another entry in a film franchise when the last one was so financially, and for the most part critically successful.

Spare us all indeed!

I don't really get why so many people have it in for Crystal Skull. I can see why many didn't like it, I thought it was ok at best, but some people come across as exceedingly bitter.  Some people may not have liked the film, or even hated it, but hey, alot of audiences and crtics in fact did!

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Originally Posted by Bryan X 

Here's one thing that bothered me about 4. And maybe someone can correct me if I'm interpreting it wrong, but I felt that Indy was too cooperative with the enemy.  To me it seemed way out of character.  For example, in the beginning at the warehouse, I don't think the old Indy would have cooperated with the Russians.  But here we get him leading them right to the artifact they wanted.  Sure, he may have just been buying time to escape, but I still think it was out of character for him to be that accommodating.  I picture the old Indy telling them to "go to hell", getting roughed up, and then finding some way to escape.  I can't remember specifically, but even in the jungle camp, I think I remember him being a bit overly helpful to the Russians.  It just seemed out of character for him.

I agree that was one of many problems. It SEEMED as if he was cleverly using up all their bullets by asking for more gunpowder, and more, and more... But in fact no. Would have been a great moment if he'd managed to disarm them using nothing more than their own greed.

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I agree that was one of many problems. It SEEMED as if he was cleverly using up all their bullets by asking for more gunpowder, and more, and more... But in fact no. Would have been a great moment if he'd managed to disarm them using nothing more than their own greed.

I'm impressed. You're very astute.

The first three words of this thread title say it all. Ford has reached the point where he is too old to play Indy and Shia LeBeouf is no replacement for Harrison Ford. The last film was circling the drain, no matter how much money it made. They should allow the character to gracefully ride off into the sunset and retire, not keep resurrecting him until he is nothing but a pathetic, laughable joke. Ford, justifiably, laughs when people suggest that he reprise his role as Han Solo, so I cannot understand why he cannot seem to see that the same problem he sees with playing Solo also applies to playing Indy. Eventually, you have to let it go and it is about time that Spielberg, Lucas and Ford let go of Indiana Jones.

While it was certainly one of the more ridiculous moments in the series, I don't see the fridge scene being much more ridiculous than surviving a plunge from an airplane then a 1000 foot cliff just because of a rubber raft in Temple, or Indy somehow managing to escape off screen from the tank falling off the cliff in Crusade.

I don't really have a problem with things like the fridge. Popcorn movies should have leeway to do silly things here and there (note: I said here and there). 

It's more the general loss of any sense of tension and good character writing that I think is most hurting post-1980s Lucas. Those used to be strengths, now they've become weaknesses. 

Really think about how vanilla and dull Cate Blanchett's "villain" character in Indy 4 was for example. 

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While it was certainly one of the more ridiculous moments in the series, I don't see the fridge scene being much more ridiculous than surviving a plunge from an airplane then a 1000 foot cliff just because of a rubber raft in Temple, or Indy somehow managing to escape off screen from the tank fallinf off the cliff in Crusade.

The two examples from the first two movies are highly implausible and over-the-top, but surviving a nuclear blast by hiding in a fridge (lead-lined or not) goes beyond ridiculous and into the absurd. Speaking only for myself, the "miraculous escapes" in the first two films manage to ride the fine line of plausible implausibility: in the back of my mind I know they couldn't possibly survive in real life but I can still "accept" it. The nuclear fridge was entirely different. There was no way I could accept him surviving the shock and heat wave from a close order nuclear blast by hiding in a fridge. My immediate response to seeing that was, "this is f'ing stupid beyond belief". That is why I think the scene was worse than any of the two examples that you used. 

I agree that the "fridge" scene was way more ridiculous than anything in Raiders of Last Crusude.  Some of the stuff in Temple comes pretty close, but I never cared for that film very much, anyway.  What bothered me much more than using the fridge to survive the blast itself is that Indy is thrown hundreds of feet through the air, then walks away without a scratch on him.  

And let's not forget the Shia Lebouf character doing the split across two vehicles in a high-speed chase, or keeping up with them by swinging from vine to vine like Tarzan.

I really, really wanted to like Crystal Skull, but scenes like these made it impossible to take seriously, much more so than anything in the previous films.

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Originally Posted by WillG 

 

While it was certainly one of the more ridiculous moments in the series, I don't see the fridge scene being much more ridiculous than surviving a plunge from an airplane then a 1000 foot cliff just because of a rubber raft in Temple, or Indy somehow managing to escape off screen from the tank fallinf off the cliff in Crusade.

Definitely. I think the reason is that people like the first three Indy movies so they let the ridiculous moments in those movies pass but since they didn't like Crystal Skull, they rant and rave about the equally ridiculous moments in that one.

Has Spielberg lost his touch? Or is it a matter of rushing these movies through production in order to meet deadlines or satisfy expectations? I think the main reason he did Indy IV was to get people to stop pestering him over when he would finally make a followup. I saw this film twice in theaters because I thought I would enjoy it more the second time but it never happened...I just couldn't get into it. I think the UFO storyline may have been the culprit but if there's gonna be another one it's gotta recapture the feel of the original. How hard can that be?

The alien theme undermines Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skulls for me. The refrigerator and nuclear blast push it too hard and too far. There's no restraint. I wish they had refined the script a little more, perhaps omit one or two superfluous characters and reduce the size of the spectacle. But I enjoyed the film for other reasons. I enjoy the interaction between Indiana Jones and the kid, the way he starts gruffly being a father before he finds out they're related. I wish they had found another name for him besides Mutt. I especially enjoyed the South American scenes where they explore the ancient ruins and find the mummys. I appreciated the good nature and warmth of the thing. The audiences I sat with seemed to enjoy the film without reservations.