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I will.  The most popular Facebook game, FarmVille is available natively on iOS, probably others are as well.  So Flash is even more useless than the article claims.  Also he doesn't mention, the SkyFire browser (as well as other programs like the newly minted Watchlater, apparently) play Flash material on iOS.

 

The only people still pumping Flash are either Flash developers or Adobe employees (or professional Apple haters who are using Flash as this week's cudgel).  I can't imagine normal users complain about the missing banner ads.

 

post #33 of 46
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Then please explain the ATROCIOUS Playbook and Verizon commercials on TV this week. Both of these companies can't believe they have such a competitive advantage as to be spending tens of millions of dollars on this pure shit without at least some minor belief that there is a call for it from 'normals', can they?

Have you seen them? The "my work is done here" commercial may be the worst tech commercial I've ever seen.

Yes, worse than Palm's.
post #34 of 46

It will soon be moot

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/perlow/exclusive-adobe-ceases-development-on-mobile-browser-flash-refocuses-efforts-on-html5-updated/19226

 

 

 

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We will no longer adapt Flash Player for mobile devices to new browser, OS version or device configurations.

 

post #35 of 46
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And now it's official. Flash is dead on Mobile Android. Where's your outrage?

http://www.theverge.com/2012/2/7/2782743/adobe-flash-not-supported-chrome-android-browser-android-browser
post #36 of 46
Still works for me. Dolphin HD, Boat browser, and a half dozen other browsers still support Flash. And yes, on ICS.

Sorry to block your schadenfreude.
post #37 of 46

It may not be gone, but it's withering. Adobe has officially quit mobile development. Google has officially given up on it from their "flagship" browser. Sure, the technophiles will get a custom browser to run Flash. But the masses, the tens of millions who keep this system going, are no longer to be using Flash on mobile in the future. And that means it's dead as a mobile web plug-in. It's just a matter of time.

 

Which I see only as a good thing. I only wish it would disappear from the desktop, including Facebook. It's nothing but pain on my Mac.

 

On the plus side, Android users will have pens.

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It really does not take a technophile to use another browser (well, on Android, I can't vouch for iOS). By your reasoning, any app is the province of technophiles only since it is not preloaded.

 

I would think that users who cannot figure out how to use the Market for programs would never need Flash in the first place.  If you're that technologically inflexible or ignorant, the Flash debate has no meaning anyway.

 

It interesting that iOS users constantly tout the number of apps available yet if you need to download an app for something on Android, that's beyond the abilities of normal users and therefore fail.

 

Huh? 

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One legit store versus jail breaking plus 2 legit stores and dozens of lesser ones so yeah.
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It really does not take a technophile to use another browser (well, on Android, I can't vouch for iOS). By your reasoning, any app is the province of technophiles only since it is not preloaded.

 

I would think that users who cannot figure out how to use the Market for programs would never need Flash in the first place.  If you're that technologically inflexible or ignorant, the Flash debate has no meaning anyway.

 

It interesting that iOS users constantly tout the number of apps available yet if you need to download an app for something on Android, that's beyond the abilities of normal users and therefore fail.

 

Huh? 

Here's the test: Does Flash for mobile websites go away, or does it thrive and remain necessary for big places like YouTube, Hulu, Netlifx, ESPN, Vanguard, and so on?

 

 

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One legit store versus jail breaking plus 2 legit stores and dozens of lesser ones so yeah.


I've read this a dozen times and I have no idea what you're trying to say.

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One legit store versus jail breaking plus 2 legit stores and dozens of lesser ones so yeah.

Huh? My Droid Razr is not rooted, yet I somehow managed to download a different browser (Dolphin HD) and email client (K9) free from the Android Market and install a shortcut for each on my home page. I may be a technical person, but I needed no technical skills to do this. It was so simple even an Apple user could do it. biggrin.gif

BTW, the only reason I even use two different app stores (Android Market and Amazon) is because Amazon offers a free app each day. While most of them are silly games I have no interest in, I have found a few useful apps there and saved some $$$. All without a need to root the phone, use a custom app launcher, or make any other modifications to the OS.
post #43 of 46

Can't we all just get along? smiley_wink.gif biggrin.gif

 

I'll say this though that I have no love for Flash -- never did and probably never will, regardless of whether it's for mobile or desktop browsing.

 

Only thing good about Flash when I browse on my BB is they -- mainly all the unwanted ads -- get ignored by the browser, which actually makes certain sites load/operate faster/smoother on mobile than desktop at times.

 

Sure, would be good to have embedded videos work properly/smoothly, but I'd gladly see definite advances toward that end (whether we stick w/ Flash or move to HTML5, etc)...

 

_Man_

 

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I've read this a dozen times and I have no idea what you're trying to say.

I'm saying Apple has one store. EVERY user knows to go to the App store to get new apps, no questions asked.

On Android you have the carrier's stores, Google's main one, the Amazon one, the one for jailbroken apps, and probably more than that that I haven't even thought about.

So yeah, maybe you can get an app from the 'official' store, and maybe you can't.
post #45 of 46

Wow Sam, you've sunk to a new low of acting dumb.  You seriously think it's that hard downloading apps?  Seriously?  There's a shortcut on the home screens.  It's The Market.

 

You are so sure of how Android doesn't work yet you appear to know absolutely nothing about how Android actually works.  At this point, you're just trolling.  Kind of sad.

post #46 of 46
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/shrug at least I don't do personal attacks.

You are taking my point in reverse tho, you are looking at the head not at the tail. Of course you can pull that browser from the 'official' marketplace but at two popular android devices don't hav the marketplace installed, at least not by default: kindle fire and Sony Vita.

Is dolphin available on the amazon marketplace? Bodes it work on the fire? I legitimately don't know and don't have mine here to test it out. Does it run flash well on the fire?

That's -exactly- what I'm talking about with the fragmentation issue, not just mainstream phones.
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