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post #1 of 16
8/16/10 at 8:30pm
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im looking for the best picture on a 50-55" tv out there for 2d mode..I want you can actually get a hold of unlike the godlike pioneer elite.If the which ever model that has best picture does 3d as that is fine i will just not use the 3d as it makes me nauseous.  as i look through reviews almost every set i like seems to have some issue.ie terrible motion blurr.. blooming or the model doesnt last very long in general. Some things im looking for..

Almost true blacks
very little jittering/motion blur
Vivid/ true colors
lasts more then a year
descent off angle viewing (1 or 2 seats off dead center)
good anti glare (doesnt have to be perfect)
true 1080p /24

you know all the things that make a good tv...
any help would be amazing.. i apologize if this sounds like a rant

ps: if  i can find the pioneer PRO-111FD or the closest thing to it id be happy (doesnt have to be a plasma)

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post #2 of 16
8/16/10 at 9:36pm

Any top of the line plasma is going to fulfill most, if not all, of your criteria.  Don't bother looking at any LCDs.  There are several options with anti-glare screens.  Most likely it will be a choice between Samsung and Panasonic (don't leave out the Premier pro model).

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post #3 of 16
8/16/10 at 9:53pm
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samsung PN50C8000 has been something ive been considering

also add in i wanna be able to watch this set in a fairly well light room from time to time


Edited by unknownuser200 - 8/16/10 at 10:30pm
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post #4 of 16
8/17/10 at 6:45am

Plasmas put out sufficient light for most residential environments.  LCDs can be brighter but would only be necessary in extreme circumstances.  Most people don't care to view critical programming (movies, etc.) in extra bright conditions anyway.  High ambient light will seriously contaminate any video image, regardless of display type (even those outdoor true LED displays- ruins dark areas of the picture).  There is no completely effective anti-glare treatment anyway.  Such coatings only diffuse the reflections into a haze, rather than eliminate them.  No TV made can compete with high ambient light.  There will always be deleterious effects upon the picture.  Video displays will always look better in low light.

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post #5 of 16
8/17/10 at 10:57am
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alrighty soo my top picks are the


pioneer PRO-111FD  (doubt i can get)
samsung PN50C8000 (can only find one review)
panisonic tc-p50vt25 (seems to have motion blurr issues)

so if you guys can help me narrow it down a bit  or help me find the pioneer thatd be great

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post #6 of 16
8/17/10 at 11:02am
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Originally Posted by unknownuser200 View Post

alrighty soo my top picks are the


pioneer PRO-111FD  (doubt i can get)
samsung PN50C8000 (can only find one review)
panisonic tc-p50vt25 (seems to have motion blurr issues)

so if you guys can help me narrow it down a bit  or help me find the pioneer thatd be great

Where did you get the information about the Panasonic having motion blur?
 

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post #7 of 16
8/17/10 at 11:12am
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http://reviews.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/panasonic-plasma-tv/panasonic-tcp50vt25.html here and i cant remember where else

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post #8 of 16
8/17/10 at 2:31pm

There was no mention of motion blur in the review.  They did mention that the video processor had some motion artifacts, which is not the same thing.  I don't care much for their review methods, opinions, or conclusions.  Perhaps you can find a better review.

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post #9 of 16
8/17/10 at 3:11pm

VT25 is the creme of the crop this year, it get's my vote over the Samsung. I'd not put much stock in their reviews, because they can't even get proper tv settings right.

 

As far as light output, My 2010 S2 can make me squint at 75 contrast, so it's got plenty left. I think someone got around 55fl's outta the S2. The newer Neo PDP plasmas from Panasonic put out good light, and use less energy.

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post #10 of 16
8/17/10 at 3:47pm
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oh im sorry i thought it was...well im glad im consulting you guys before i make a purchase. Locally i cannot find a dealer. sooo i started looking around online

http://www.justbuyelectronics.com/panasonic-viera-tcp50vt25-50''-3d-1080p-600hz-plasma-hdtv-tc-p50vt25-925


i came across this

http://www.justbuyelectronics.com/panasonic-viera-tcp58vt25-58''-3d-1080p-600hz-plasma-hdtv-tc-p58vt25-1246

58 is a nice price... im seeing some descent reviews  as they have good white glove service. however have any of you purchased from here before?

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post #11 of 16
8/17/10 at 3:54pm

They have a 4.9 out of 5 on google from 198 buyer reviews.

 

This one is a little more, but has 4.8 out of 5 on 357 reviews.

 

http://www.bestbuypcs.com/panasonic-tcp58vt25-home-theater-plasma-display-best-price.html?___store=default&ovchn=FRO&ovcpn=Froogle&ovcrn=TCP58VT25&ovtac=organic

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post #12 of 16
8/17/10 at 8:40pm
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i feel kinda dumb asking this but what is the difference between the pioneer pro 111fd and the pro 101fd? is it the same screen just one doesnt have a tuner and lacks speakers? if soo thatd work just great because i would be useing an hd cable box and surround sound system  anyway and would never use the onboard tuner or speakers

http://www.bestbuypcs.com/pioneer-kuro-pro-101fd-best-price.html

if theres a difference please let me know... sorry if im off a bit im farly new to tv world (but not brand new)

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post #13 of 16
8/17/10 at 8:43pm

1) TV Tuner
2) Speakers
3) Pedestal stand

 

The 101 is strictly a monitor.

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post #14 of 16
8/17/10 at 8:52pm
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the only thing i fear is warranty issues as pioneer is pretty much out of the tv game from what i understand... the stand maybe an issue but maybe i can find one somewhere .. if not i suppose i could wall mount it

edit stand problem resolved :

http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-KRP-TS02PM-Table-top-plasma-televisions/dp/B001DT2TDI

http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/item/features/750500948/pioneer-krp-ts02pm?ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=750500948&v_c=GoogleBase

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post #15 of 16
8/19/10 at 9:00am

I have purchased from justbuy and their reviews and service are/were rock solid.  I spoke to a specialist there named Eric and he had a very knowledgeable answer for all of my concerns.

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post #16 of 16
8/23/10 at 7:49pm
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edit: sooo the samsungs dont touch the panasonics?


Edited by unknownuser200 - 8/23/10 at 8:04pm
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