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post #31 of 51
4/11/10 at 4:57pm
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Originally Posted by Patrick Sun View Post

Yay for Lefty!  He basically won it with his ridiculous second shot on the 13th hole, that was just a bold play.

 

No, he won it because he didn't make any bogeys while making 5 birdies today.  The same can't be said about the other top finishers on the leaderboard.  Just too many mistakes on their part.




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post #32 of 51
4/11/10 at 6:18pm
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Originally Posted by Patrick Sun View Post

Yay for Lefty!  He basically won it with his ridiculous second shot on the 13th hole, that was just a bold play.
 

Considering that he missed the ensuing eagle putt, I doubt this was the reason for his win. As Robert said, Mickelson won because he did not make any mistakes that cost him bogeys.

That was an amazing shot on 13, but it was also a huge gamble. A few yards shorter (which was very possible out of the trees and pine straw), and that shot is in the creek and Mickelson probably loses the tournament.  I'm not sure the risk was worth it, although Lefty pulled it off this time.
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post #33 of 51
4/11/10 at 7:03pm
In many respects Mickelson winning was the worst possible outcome for team Tiger and the image rehab project.
Here you have a person who has been lauded for being there for his wife while she has fought cancer and she in turn gets out of bed to support her husband on the final day of competition.
 The white hat good guy triumphed while the black hat cad faltered.
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post #34 of 51
4/12/10 at 7:46am

Did anyone else happen to watch any of the Masters coverage on a 4:3 display?  Our upstairs TV is an "ancient" 32" CRT set (SD, no less ), and this was the first time that I had noticed a major sporting event NOT making sure that all onscreen graphics were 4:3 safe!

For the entire weekend, any time the current player's score was displayed at the top of the screen, the actual strokes relative to par was mostly cropped.  All I could make out was "+" or "-".

I suppose we all knew this day would come, and it should probably come as no surprise that an organization like the Master's would "throw down the gauntlet" so to speak.

Man, the wife is going to HATE having to say goodbye to her cherished "entertainment center" that is in NO way appropriate to house a widescreen flat panel display...

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post #35 of 51
4/12/10 at 8:18am
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Originally Posted by Patrick_S View Post

In many respects Mickelson winning was the worst possible outcome for team Tiger and the image rehab project.
Here you have a person who has been lauded for being there for his wife while she has fought cancer and she in turn gets out of bed to support her husband on the final day of competition.
 The white hat good guy triumphed while the black hat cad faltered.

I don't know if it had any effect on his image rehab project.

It probably would have been worse had he actually won with a noticeably absent family.
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post #36 of 51
4/12/10 at 9:17am
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Here you have a person who has been lauded for being there for his wife while she has fought cancer and she in turn gets out of bed to support her husband on the final day of competition.
 

This Masters surely represent a moral victory for many people. My wife was definately rooting for Mickelson.
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post #37 of 51
4/12/10 at 9:44am
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Originally Posted by Jason Charlton View Post

Did anyone else happen to watch any of the Masters coverage on a 4:3 display?  Our upstairs TV is an "ancient" 32" CRT set (SD, no less ), and this was the first time that I had noticed a major sporting event NOT making sure that all onscreen graphics were 4:3 safe!
 


Watching The Masters in standard definition should be against the law. Sorry, but I did not turn it on any of our old TV's to notice. Augusta needs to be savored in HD.
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post #38 of 51
4/12/10 at 10:03am
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Originally Posted by Jason Charlton View Post

Did anyone else happen to watch any of the Masters coverage on a 4:3 display?  Our upstairs TV is an "ancient" 32" CRT set (SD, no less ), and this was the first time that I had noticed a major sporting event NOT making sure that all onscreen graphics were 4:3 safe!


I watched the last hour or so on a 4:3 display in a restaurant and all the graphics appeared fine.

Must have been something local caused by the way your cable/satellite company was processing the feed.
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post #39 of 51
4/12/10 at 10:19am
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Originally Posted by Malcolm R View Post

I watched the last hour or so on a 4:3 display in a restaurant and all the graphics appeared fine.

Must have been something local caused by the way your cable/satellite company was processing the feed.

 

Interesting thought.  It wouldn't surprise me to find out that Comcast did something wonky to the feed, but it does surprise me to think that an organization like the fine folks at Augusta National (who go to such great lengths to ensure the presentation is top notch) wouldn't have all sorts of stipulations and very strict guidelines for providers to follow.

Oh, and just for the record, Scott - I would have much preferred watching on the basement front projection system, but I gotta choose my battles wisely, and couldn't shirk my fatherly duties all weekend long...
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post #40 of 51
4/12/10 at 10:28am
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It probably would have been worse had he actually won with a noticeably absent family.

 

Hardly

Winning would have given him the chance to use some sort of canned contrite statement about how even though winning is nice he realizes how much more important to him family is and that he is going to continue to work on his personal short comings so he can become the husband and father his family deserves.
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post #41 of 51
4/12/10 at 10:43am
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Originally Posted by Scott Merryfield View Post




Considering that he missed the ensuing eagle putt, I doubt this was the reason for his win. As Robert said, Mickelson won because he did not make any mistakes that cost him bogeys.

That was an amazing shot on 13, but it was also a huge gamble. A few yards shorter (which was very possible out of the trees and pine straw), and that shot is in the creek and Mickelson probably loses the tournament.  I'm not sure the risk was worth it, although Lefty pulled it off this time.

 

Even the AJC call it a bold shot in the mini-headline in the sports page.  The reason he goes for it is because he needed to make birdie on 13, which he did.  That he missed the eagle putt was a bummer, but if he lays up and ends up with a par, the pressure for the remaining holes tightens up for him.  But going for it on 13, and making a birdie changes the strategy for the remaining 5 holes for Phil.  And sure, no guts, no glory, Phil could have easily left the shot short and in the drink, but that's what makes the shot even more treacherous given the 2nd shot conditions. 
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post #42 of 51
4/12/10 at 12:13pm
I am THRILLED that the scumbag, otherwise known as "Tiger" didn't win.
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post #43 of 51
4/12/10 at 1:31pm
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Even the AJC call it a bold shot in the mini-headline in the sports page.  The reason he goes for it is because he needed to make birdie on 13, which he did.  That he missed the eagle putt was a bummer, but if he lays up and ends up with a par, the pressure for the remaining holes tightens up for him.  But going for it on 13, and making a birdie changes the strategy for the remaining 5 holes for Phil.  And sure, no guts, no glory, Phil could have easily left the shot short and in the drink, but that's what makes the shot even more treacherous given the 2nd shot conditions. 
 

Lee Westwood was in the same position as Phil, decided to layup, taking the creek out of play, and recorded a birdie to equal Mickelson's score on the hole without risking a bogey or worse. If Mickelson lays up, he can pick his remaining yardage and have a wedge into the green. Lefty is one of the premiere wedge players in the game, so he would have been playing to his strength.

As I said, it was a bold and exciting shot, but I still do not believe it was the proper play in that situation. Of course, Mickelson's nature is to play the aggressive shot instead of backing off in those situations. It certainly has cost him in other majors, but kudos for pulling off the shot this time.
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post #44 of 51
4/12/10 at 1:50pm
I was shocked he went for it, but he did, and it also got him psyched up for the home stretch.  Was it the proper play, probably not.  But the guy is ridiculously talented, and sometimes, it's better to be lucky than simply good.  I still think it was his turning point where it put the end in sight and Westwood became the guy who was running out of holes given Phil's intial tee shot on 13 creating a slight opening to gain a stroke on Phil.

At least Phil had enough of a lead to play the 3-wood on 18th tee.  Otherwise, his driver might have gotten him in trouble with just a 1-stroke lead after 71 holes.
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post #45 of 51
4/13/10 at 5:09am
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Originally Posted by Jim Mcc View Post

I am THRILLED that the scumbag, otherwise known as "Tiger" didn't win.

He might be a scumbag that shouldn't be married, but he will win again and win often.

The day he got married, I told a friend of mine that he was making a mistake because I felt the only thing that can hold him back in his golf career was injury and getting married.  Of course, I didn't have any idea that he liked the ladies so much which is another reason why it was a mistake to get married. 





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post #46 of 51
4/13/10 at 6:31am
Robert, you're mostly right. Tiger can play just fine through injury. Just not the surgery.
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post #47 of 51
4/13/10 at 7:33am
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He might be a scumbag that shouldn't be married, but he will win again and win often.
Putting aside my feelings on Tiger's off the course actions, I have to agree with Robert on this. Consider that Tiger, after being away from competitive golf for many months, finished fourth in a major in which he played poorly by his standards. Anyone who thinks he will not return to form on the course is just kidding himself.
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post #48 of 51
4/13/10 at 7:45am
As I mentioned in a post earlier - people who are gifted in an area are often poor in another area. I also feel that problems like Tiger with his wife go on all the time by other people and you never know about it because they are not famous. I also feel that with marriage problems - both sides are usually  at fault. Some of my friends seem to indicate that they don't care about something that happens in one's private life
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post #49 of 51
4/13/10 at 8:12am
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Originally Posted by Sumnernor View Post

As I mentioned in a post earlier - people who are gifted in an area are often poor in another area. I also feel that problems like Tiger with his wife go on all the time by other people and you never know about it because they are not famous. I also feel that with marriage problems - both sides are usually  at fault. Some of my friends seem to indicate that they don't care about something that happens in one's private life
 

Listen, I'm as big of a Tiger Woods fan as you can find, but with what he did with so many different women, I have a hard time blaming his wife, even if his sex life with her is not satisfying him.  Furthermore, the class of women he messed around with gives me cause to question his judgement.  If you sleep with dogs, you're going to get some fleas.  A man in his position with corporate sponsers/partnerships can't afford such a lack of good judgement nor being infected with such fleas.:) 






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post #50 of 51
4/14/10 at 10:30am
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Originally Posted by Jason Charlton View Post

Did anyone else happen to watch any of the Masters coverage on a 4:3 display?  Our upstairs TV is an "ancient" 32" CRT set (SD, no less ), and this was the first time that I had noticed a major sporting event NOT making sure that all onscreen graphics were 4:3 safe!
 


I've noticed the same thing on shows like SNL.
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post #51 of 51
4/15/10 at 8:11am
Hope Tiger doesn't watch Larry King on TV  or Elisabeth Taylor movies
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