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A Nightmare on Elm Street (1984)

post #1 of 42
4/5/10 at 3:42pm
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I guess there are several missing sound effects on the stereo remix. However, I have heard that the mono track included has the sound effects. I am a purist, but I also like to hear full-bodied sound. I don't know if I should pick this up or not. Listening to the mono track will give a more faithful listen, but won't sound as good as the stereo track, which is missing several key "stingers." What to do?
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post #2 of 42
4/5/10 at 4:34pm
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Originally Posted by Eric Scott Richard View Post

What to do?

I'll only listen to the mono track anyway.


Have you heard that the sound effects are definitely missing from the Blu-ray?
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post #3 of 42
4/5/10 at 4:42pm
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Yeah, they are definitely missing from the stereo track, but are present on the mono.
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post #4 of 42
4/5/10 at 4:57pm
 A few sound effects do not make or break a film. That is just ludicrous. In fact, you wouldn't be conflicted in you decision once you got a taste of it. The new blu-ray transfer of Nightmare on Elm Street is fantastic in both picture and sound and blows away all previous video editions. Seeing the new transfer was like experiencing the film for the first time, and I've seen it at least once every two years since it was released on VHS. At least rent it so you can see it before you buy.
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post #5 of 42
4/5/10 at 6:03pm
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I'm going to get it, but will listen to the mono track. Some of the effects are "stingers" which are important in a horror film. From the shots I have seen, it looks great!
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post #6 of 42
4/5/10 at 8:00pm
I presume that the mono track is the original and the stereo track is a more recent remix.  If that is indeed the case, then I wouldn't ever bother listening to the stereo track, anyway, so there's no problem at all, as far as I'm concerned.  The way I see it, it's like including both the widescreen and pan & scan versions of a movie on a DVD.  I'll only ever watch the widescreen version, so I don't care how crappy the pan & scan version looks.
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post #7 of 42
4/5/10 at 9:39pm
If it's confirmed that the mono track is the original soundtrack and not a downmix of the remix, I'll get this.  Yeah, "a few sound effects" might not "make or break a movie", but it's the principal that's at issue here.  Since remixes often go wrong-  sometimes drastically-  original sound mixes should always be offered as a viewing option.  Blu-ray certainly has the bandwidth to accommodate that.

Vincent
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post #8 of 42
4/6/10 at 12:53am
The review at a site where they Talk about DVD, confirms that the sound effects are missing from both the mono track and the remix track on the Blu-Ray.  (or at least one sound effect is missing, the sound of Freddy's face being ripped off in Tina's dream, because the missing sound effects apparently didn't bother the reviewer so he didn't bother to confirm if all the missing sound effects are still missing, but I assume that if they are still missing in that spot then all the missing sound effects are still missing.)

Since they didn't fix this, I'll stick with my old DVD....sigh, at least it saves me some $
Edited by Derrick King - 4/6/10 at 9:29am
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post #9 of 42
4/6/10 at 6:29am
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Originally Posted by burntbyfire View Post

A few sound effects do not make or break a film.
 


No, they don't but since New Line has been aware of the problem for the last 3 or 4 years (or however long the DVD has been out), it's fair to expect the mistake to have been corrected. The Texas Chainsaw Massacre was missing sound effects on DVD and they were back when the Blu-ray was released a couple years later. I don't see why New Line couldn't have done the same with ANOES.
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post #10 of 42
4/6/10 at 4:10pm
Amazon pushed the release date back, on the one I had ordered, to 4-13-10 :(
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post #11 of 42
4/8/10 at 3:11pm
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Now I'm really confused. DVDTalk says that at least the sound of Tina ripping Freddy's face is missing from both tracks, but someone on another forum states that the mono track is unaltered.
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post #12 of 42
4/9/10 at 11:20am
I cant beleive this is going to happen again.They had nearly 4 years since that infinifilm release , to fix things up for the blu ray.When the chainsaw massacre was released on blu ray by dark sky , they fixed the audio missing from the previous dvd release.So why couldnt Warner do the same???
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post #13 of 42
4/9/10 at 5:24pm
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They should do a replacement. Sound effects are important to a horror film, and this is a classic. It's not okay to keep changing these things when the materials are available.
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post #14 of 42
4/9/10 at 6:27pm
 It's not just the sound that was altered on the latest Infinifilm (and subsequent Blu-ray releases):  the transfer also features a different color timing that adds a blue hue to many scenes.  Horror DVDs's review of the Blu shows a nice comparison. 
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post #15 of 42
4/13/10 at 1:17pm
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Originally Posted by Vincent_P View Post

If it's confirmed that the mono track is the original soundtrack and not a downmix of the remix, I'll get this. 
 


I have the disc in hand and I watched the scene where Tina pulls Freddy's face off and the mono track definitely HAS the ripping sound effect but it is missing from the DTS remix. I can't remember what the other missing sound effects were (when Nancy is running up the stairs and she sinks into them?) but I can check the other scenes if anyone can tell me where to look.

The trailer isn't ported over (but I'm guessing that's on the old NOES box set that I still have) and the DVD-Rom content and trivia game is MIA. Everything else is carried over from the Infinifilm edition so I'm pretty happy with this disc.
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post #16 of 42
4/13/10 at 2:16pm
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The ripping sound is there? I heard it was missing from both tracks. Some other effects supposedly missing include a stinger effect when Rod jumps out of the bushes and again during his big scene with the rope in jail.
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post #17 of 42
4/13/10 at 2:52pm
Travis here is a list of some of the sound effects that are missing from the remix for you to check:

21:53 - 2. When Rod jumps out of the bushes and grabs Nancy, the sound effect is gone.

39:32 - 3. When Freddy opens the door to Rod's holding cell, there used to be a 'stinger' synth sound effect. It isn't on the new DVD.

44:40 - 4. When the blanket-noose first tugs Rod's neck as he wakes up, the 'stinger' sound effect that was once there is missing.

1:23:00 - 5. The moment before Nancy lights Freddy up like a roman candle in her basement, he scrapes his glove along the furnace to freak her out I suppose. Before, the scraping sound effect used throughout the movie is used here. It's also now absent.


I also think that the sound from Johnny Depp's  headphones is missing on the remix.  I remember hearing that the scene you mention (Nancy on the stairs) was missing some sound on the remix, but I don't recall what was missing.
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post #18 of 42
4/13/10 at 4:03pm
^ All of what is noted above is present on the mono mix and missing from the DTS mix.

The music in Johnny Depp's headphones starts at approximately 1:01:40 and continues to play under the dialogue between him and his mom. Music is present on the mono soundtrack but not on the DTS mix.

Anyone know of any other sounds that were missing on the Infinifilm release or is that all of them?

I don't want to speak too soon but I think the mono mix is the original version.
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post #19 of 42
4/13/10 at 4:07pm
 That's great news.  Thanks for checking, Travis.
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post #20 of 42
4/13/10 at 4:20pm
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I think that's it...this has gone from a disappointment to a must-buy. It's too bad that they are missing from the stereo version, but at least we can hear them on the mono. And isn't that the purist's way of listening to this film anyway?
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post #21 of 42
4/13/10 at 11:46pm
Thanks for checking Travis.  I'll definitely be picking this up now.
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post #22 of 42
4/14/10 at 10:59am
Waiting for this blu ray  in the mail.Glad to hear the mono mix has everything.But I would have liked to have everything on each track.Ill still also hold on to the infinifilm edition, because it has the original trailer remastered in great quality.Compare that to the old dvd , the quality is higher.
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post #23 of 42
4/14/10 at 3:40pm
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Picked this up today. Just spot checked. Looks great! The mono track sounds good too.
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post #24 of 42
4/14/10 at 5:19pm
Review is posted.

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/forum/thread/299800/htf-blu-ray-review-a-nightmare-on-elm-street

Sorry it was a bit late, but I was on vacation.

Regards,
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post #25 of 42
4/16/10 at 8:38pm
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Ok, I watched this tonight. It looks great and sounds good. I listened to the mono track. One question...were mono tracks this quiet in 1984? I turned up my volume to the max and the first half of the movie was very low, except for music and some stingers. Other than that, a winner.
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post #26 of 42
4/19/10 at 7:07am
Has anyone noticed the audio synching issues with this disc? 

I read about it on the AVS forum and popped in the disc to check for myself.  Sure enough, it's there.  Most noticeable in Chapter 10, when Nancy is talking to Rod while he's in jail. 

It doesn't seem to occur throughout the whole film, but it's very odd.
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post #27 of 42
4/19/10 at 9:18am
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I didn't notice it on my disc.
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post #28 of 42
4/19/10 at 9:52am
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Originally Posted by MattFini View Post

Has anyone noticed the audio synching issues with this disc? 

I read about it on the AVS forum and popped in the disc to check for myself.  Sure enough, it's there.  Most noticeable in Chapter 10, when Nancy is talking to Rod while he's in jail. 

It doesn't seem to occur throughout the whole film, but it's very odd.

On both tracks or just the stereo?
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post #29 of 42
4/19/10 at 9:56am
Not to say that there isn't a problem but I didn't notice it.
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post #30 of 42
4/19/10 at 10:36am
You can check out the thread over at Blu-ray.com. 

http://forum.blu-ray.com/blu-ray-movies-north-america/127903-nightmare-elm-street-us-april-13th-31.html

The sync issue discussion begins on page 31.

I'm running a PS3 and I haven't done the latest system update (which I will try and do tonight).  However, there are people in that thread that are also running a PS3 and have applied the latest update and are still experiencing the issue so, go figure ...
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